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KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 03:12 PM Oct 2022

What Rs mean when they say "abortions up to the moment of birth"

Got a flier in the mail from the person running against my Democratic Governor Laura Kelly, and claimed she
voted for abortions up to the moment of birth. Came with a flag note HB 2218 3/23/11, so I looked it up.

http://kslegislature.org/li_2012/b2011_12/measures/documents/summary_hb_2218_2011.pdf (my underlining)

New Late-Term Abortion Restrictions—HB 2218
HB 2218 enacts new restrictions on certain late-term abortions. The bill adds a new
section that lists the Legislature’s findings on the capacity of an unborn child to feel pain.
HB 2218
The bill defines a “pain-capable child” as an unborn child that has reached the gestational
age of 22 weeks or more,...........
The bill also establishes the circumstances and procedures to be followed for exceptions
that would allow abortions where a pain-capable child is present, including cases where
specific medical conditions would lead the physician to believe the death of a pregnant
woman might result,
or there might be a substantial and irreversible physical impairment
of a major bodily function of the pregnant woman.

So yes KS allows abortions after 22 weeks if the life of the mother is at risk, and this is what repugs
claim is "abortions up to the moment of birth", kind of implying for any reason. They know how to use
"FEAR" tactics. And guess who signed it into law?

republican Gov. Sam Brownback, so I guess he also approves of "abortions up to the moment of birth"

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What Rs mean when they say "abortions up to the moment of birth" (Original Post) KS Toronado Oct 2022 OP
If Repugs are so anti-abortion... GreenWave Oct 2022 #1
Comes natural when they put their MAGA hat on. KS Toronado Oct 2022 #5
The GOP/aborition assholes have invented something called partial birth abortions LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2022 #2
This nonsense just grinds my gears gratuitous Oct 2022 #3
It's a motherfucking lie Nevilledog Oct 2022 #7
It is such a stupid lie that it offends me greatly LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2022 #9
It sounds more like up to the moment of death . . . of the mother, of course. Arkansas Granny Oct 2022 #4
It is literal garbage. TiredGenXFemme Oct 2022 #6
We all know what their problem is FakeNoose Oct 2022 #8

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
5. Comes natural when they put their MAGA hat on.
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 05:09 PM
Oct 2022

China must be including brain eating leeches or something.

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,869 posts)
2. The GOP/aborition assholes have invented something called partial birth abortions
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 03:32 PM
Oct 2022

There is no such procedure used in the real world but these assholes think that one can abort a fetus second before it is born. This concept is not allowed under Roe but these assholes want to pretend that this procedure exists and is the reason why all abortions need to be banned.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. This nonsense just grinds my gears
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 03:38 PM
Oct 2022

I have resolved that if I'm ever in a room where someone voices this "partial birth abortion" bullshit, I'm going to ask, "Where did this happen? When? Who was involved? What you're talking about does. Not. Happen. You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to peddle such nonsense."

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,869 posts)
9. It is such a stupid lie that it offends me greatly
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 06:07 PM
Oct 2022

Only idiots would use this concept. I lower the estimate of the IQ of every republican who uses this lie. According to my calculations, Carnival Cruz has a negative IQ

TiredGenXFemme

(39 posts)
6. It is literal garbage.
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 05:19 PM
Oct 2022

I've worked in reproductive healthcare for two decades and this simply doesn't not happen. It is a wacky right wing talking point because health care providers do not want any government officials making medical decisions.

FakeNoose

(41,634 posts)
8. We all know what their problem is
Fri Oct 28, 2022, 05:34 PM
Oct 2022

... they don't want Medicaid paying for the abortions. Period.

We Democrats had almost 50 years to work this out and codify the law and work out how it was going to be administered. If we had done that we wouldn't be here now. But we coasted along and let Roe become "the law of the land," even though it wasn't a law, ever. It was a ruling by SCOTUS and we always knew that they could undo it if they felt like it.

Our inaction on Roe - for almost 50 years - has brought us here.

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