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Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus - "Let justice be done, though the world perish" (Original Post) kentuck Oct 2022 OP
I assume this is another "Garland isn't moving fast enough for me" allusion? brooklynite Oct 2022 #1
Your assumption is wrong. kentuck Oct 2022 #2
In which case, I'll ask what justice do you feel is in question? brooklynite Oct 2022 #3
If you have to ask...? kentuck Oct 2022 #4
Perhaps the fact that nobody else has responded suggests that point isn't as clear as you hope? brooklynite Oct 2022 #5
Or Just That It's Early Morning, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2022 #6
And THAT what what I first responded to... brooklynite Oct 2022 #7
It Is Not Just In Comedy, Sir, That Timing Is Everything The Magistrate Oct 2022 #8
And the "ought to" is the key phrase... brooklynite Oct 2022 #9
I have noticed that General Discussion is mostly opinion. kentuck Oct 2022 #10
Not Really, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2022 #11
"When you strike at a King you must kill him" -- Ralph Waldo Emerson brooklynite Oct 2022 #12
I Remember Thomas At Nashville, Too, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2022 #13
Let justice roll down like waters gratuitous Oct 2022 #14

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
6. Or Just That It's Early Morning, Sir
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 09:21 AM
Oct 2022

I've always heard the tag as 'Let Justice be done, though the Heavens fall,' and thought it older than Kant.

And it would be foolish to pretend fear of what might happen if treason by Trump and Co. is properly prosecuted is not an element in the current situation.

brooklynite

(94,519 posts)
7. And THAT what what I first responded to...
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 10:25 AM
Oct 2022

“Justice” means a thoughtful and legal process to hold wrong doers accountable. Still waiting for evidence that justice isn’t happening, regardless of how long it takes to do properly.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
8. It Is Not Just In Comedy, Sir, That Timing Is Everything
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 10:31 AM
Oct 2022

If you ought to have brought your wife flowers Monday, showing up with a bouquet Thursday won't help, and may make things worse.



"In the future, I may lose another battle, bur I will never again lose another minute."



brooklynite

(94,519 posts)
9. And the "ought to" is the key phrase...
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 10:38 AM
Oct 2022

There isn't a fixed date by which an indictment should be handed down. It depends on when a professional prosecutor (as opposed to an anonymous blogger) decides that a solid case is ready to present, with the goal of achieving an indictment AND a conviction. "We know he's guilty" rants are not the basis of such a case.

kentuck

(111,089 posts)
10. I have noticed that General Discussion is mostly opinion.
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 10:42 AM
Oct 2022

In my opinion, most folks here have been very patient.

However, I do not know if there is such a thing as "guaranteed conviction", no matter how much evidence is presented.

Just my opinion.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
11. Not Really, Sir
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 11:10 AM
Oct 2022

The point is tardiness, and while late is better than never, it remains true late is never better.

What most people object to, though they might not phrase it quite this way, is that the man is proceeding as if the matter is not political as well as criminal, and that he seems to imagine he operates in a political vacuum, that the ground on which he operates is unchanging.

These are the things which raise rancor. It is not a question of evidence, the crimes have been committed in plain sight, and are matters of public knowledge. It is a question of will, and political judgement.

The fact beneath all this is that Trump leads an insurrection, and this insurrection must be stopped if the country is to continue a free democracy. 'Kill the head and the body will die' is tried and true counsel.

Pretending defense of a democratically elected government against rebellion is not political, and posturings meant to demonstrate a prosecution aimed at halting insurrection is somehow untainted by politics, are foolish, and would be laughable were the matter not so serious as it is.

brooklynite

(94,519 posts)
12. "When you strike at a King you must kill him" -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 11:45 AM
Oct 2022

It took TWO YEARS for serious indictments to occur after Watergate (including tagging Nixon as an "unindicted co-conspirator&quot . When your target is a former President, you need to make sure your case is air tight, and what YOU, a politically engaged person (who, I might add, would never be acceptable as a juror) see as clear guilt is not necessarily what the average person on a jury would see.

nb: my wife is a former Federal Prosecutor. While her cases were far less significant, she didn't rush them to Court simply because it was "obvious" that the defendant was guilty.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
13. I Remember Thomas At Nashville, Too, Sir
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 12:01 PM
Oct 2022

There's to be said for thorough preparation, certainly.

I also recall McClellan, who so over-rated his opponents he forfeited victory dropped in his lap with a handful of cigars.


"Fortune favors the bold."




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