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kpete

(72,902 posts)
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 10:21 AM Oct 2022

This is not a boat accident! It was Trumpism.

“This was not a random act,” said William Scott, San Francisco’s chief of police. “This was intentional.”


Let’s stop dismissing attacks like these and threats against public servants as products of garden-variety mental illness. This was not a boat accident, propeller, coral reef, or Jack the Ripper.

It was Trumpism.

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This is not a boat accident! It was Trumpism. (Original Post) kpete Oct 2022 OP
Amber Heard hater is RW? FBaggins Oct 2022 #1
That was an odd one PatSeg Oct 2022 #3
Maybe she wasn't RW enough for him vlyons Oct 2022 #4
That could be it PatSeg Oct 2022 #6
Yeah, and that whole nautical theme (boat accident, robbob Oct 2022 #5
Perhaps in reference to this... Wounded Bear Oct 2022 #7
I don't have a clue PatSeg Oct 2022 #8
He's quoting Richard Dreyfus from Jaws. Xavier Breath Oct 2022 #11
Ah! robbob Oct 2022 #15
Thank you PatSeg Oct 2022 #22
I associate it with directing hate upon persons and groups nt delisen Oct 2022 #10
A sign of misogyny muriel_volestrangler Oct 2022 #13
I would think they hate Depp. Such a hipster and all. LakeArenal Oct 2022 #14
I would think so as well, PatSeg Oct 2022 #23
In a battle between a man and a woman Grokenstein Oct 2022 #43
Yes, that is the simplest and most PatSeg Oct 2022 #44
+1 John1956PA Oct 2022 #17
This. Iggo Oct 2022 #36
It's widespread among incels and other misogynists Tanuki Oct 2022 #18
Yep, yep. Iggo Oct 2022 #37
She predicted and was inundated with character attacks by anti-feminists almost immediately, NullTuples Oct 2022 #41
agree. that was maybe a 'whoopsie' stopdiggin Oct 2022 #9
Who the hell is Amber Heard? Note: Sorry on edit searched she's J..Depp's ex. RestoreAmerica2020 Oct 2022 #20
I think it's an attempt to saddle us with her...same with Meghan Markle nt Baltimike Oct 2022 #32
There's a heavy toxic male anti-woman presence to the online Amber Heard hatred. Iggo Oct 2022 #35
Here ya' go: (sound on) Ilsa Oct 2022 #2
Who is "dismissing attacks like this"? brooklynite Oct 2022 #12
My guess is... lonely bird Oct 2022 #16
Republicans JHB Oct 2022 #24
Full sentence: "dismiss ... as products of garden-variety mental illness" muriel_volestrangler Oct 2022 #30
Fox News'Jesse Watters, for one. SunSeeker Oct 2022 #42
never heard of amber heard before i read this post . hem. AllaN01Bear Oct 2022 #19
The squalous involved is usually found in the Mar a Lardo region. BootinUp Oct 2022 #21
Yup, not a defect for the GQP yobrault1 Oct 2022 #25
Amber heard what? nt BootinUp Oct 2022 #26
I suspect the list is inclusive of everything he complained about on social media. nt Gore1FL Oct 2022 #33
Actually, Kpete, my observation has been that most on political forums Hortensis Oct 2022 #27
The strategy of one of the two major US political parties BootinUp Oct 2022 #29
Yes -- during the transition to making it function very well for a Hortensis Oct 2022 #34
Don't know why "Amber Heard hater" is in there. She was SAVAGED by so many. oldsoftie Oct 2022 #28
I can't stand Amber Heard either, lol. She's a bad actress and an even worse liar. catbyte Oct 2022 #31
Anti-government Erik the UNred Oct 2022 #38
I like telling repukes... The Jungle 1 Oct 2022 #39
According to MSNBC, David DePape, Nancy Pelosi's would-be assassin, is a believer in Transhumanism ffr Oct 2022 #40

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
3. That was an odd one
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 10:26 AM
Oct 2022

to include in the list. I don't associate it with right-wingers.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
4. Maybe she wasn't RW enough for him
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 10:31 AM
Oct 2022

She didn't whack an old man in the head with a hammer, or shoot up a shopping center.

robbob

(3,750 posts)
5. Yeah, and that whole nautical theme (boat accident,
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 10:33 AM
Oct 2022

propeller, coral reef) had me scratching my head. Reference, anyone?

Xavier Breath

(6,640 posts)
11. He's quoting Richard Dreyfus from Jaws.
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 10:40 AM
Oct 2022

The medical examiner claims the first shark victim was a boating accident, which Dreyfus' character quickly deduced was not the case.

Edit: which I now see is in post #2.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,211 posts)
13. A sign of misogyny
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 10:43 AM
Oct 2022

People who expressed hatred of Amber Heard in the case brought against her by Johnny Depp often seemed to just hate women (it would be possible to side with Depp, given the evidence presented, without being misogynistic, but the reality was that many online made it a case of hating the woman, and not weighing things up rationally).

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
14. I would think they hate Depp. Such a hipster and all.
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 10:57 AM
Oct 2022

They just hate. They probably hate Depp too

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
23. I would think so as well,
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 11:47 AM
Oct 2022

but I guess as you say, "they just hate". It is what they do

Tanuki

(16,448 posts)
18. It's widespread among incels and other misogynists
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 11:27 AM
Oct 2022
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/amber-heard-johnny-depp-memes-reddit-tiktok-b2082450.html%3famp


"Memes and videos mocking Amber Heard expose the “deep hatred” and distrust of women as well as revealing the prevalence of misogyny, experts have warned.

Campaigners from leading UK charities and experts told The Independent viral online responses to the lawsuit between Johnny Depp and Ms Heard shed light on how many people assume women who report domestic abuse and sexual violence are lying.
...


Dr Proudman added: “It is never acceptable to laugh and mock a complainant of sexual violence. Let’s not forget that Amber Heard was found by a High Court Judge in the UK to be a victim of domestic abuse at the hands of Depp.
...

The memes serve to undermine her, and in doing so, they send out a strong message to survivors that if you speak out, you could be laughed at, and ridiculed, this might discourage women from seeking support from friends or family and they might be reluctant to report abuse to the police.”

Dr Proudman argued the memes mocking Heard “are driven by misogyny” and “a deep hatred towards women” as she argued people are conditioned and “socialised to hate women”....(more)

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
41. She predicted and was inundated with character attacks by anti-feminists almost immediately,
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 07:54 PM
Oct 2022

even before the trial got underway.

stopdiggin

(15,463 posts)
9. agree. that was maybe a 'whoopsie'
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 10:38 AM
Oct 2022

the argument is much better when sticking to holocaust and climate change denial.

(now if you're talking Pelosi hater ... then maybe you have something.)
-] ---

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,471 posts)
20. Who the hell is Amber Heard? Note: Sorry on edit searched she's J..Depp's ex.
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 11:43 AM
Oct 2022

Last edited Sat Oct 29, 2022, 12:14 PM - Edit history (1)

..wow this guy was all over the board batshit maga.

Iggo

(49,927 posts)
35. There's a heavy toxic male anti-woman presence to the online Amber Heard hatred.
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 01:01 PM
Oct 2022

Last edited Sat Oct 29, 2022, 06:04 PM - Edit history (1)

A kind of “Yeah! We finally won one!” vibe.

Incels abound.

lonely bird

(2,941 posts)
16. My guess is...
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 11:08 AM
Oct 2022

That the RW won’t acknowledge the impact of Trump having anything to do with the attacker’s motivation. Yes, some have condemned the attack such as Yertle the Tertle but comments regarding motivation will be absent. Or they will pull out the “mental illness” card.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,211 posts)
30. Full sentence: "dismiss ... as products of garden-variety mental illness"
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 12:24 PM
Oct 2022

It's quite likely that Trumpists will try that. In another DU thread, there's already hand-wringing that the mention of Jimmy Dore in the attacker's online entertainment enjoyment will enable Trumpists to claim he was "far left", not far right.

Yes, mental health has already come up:

Ron DePape, who said David DePape is his brother’s stepson from a previous marriage, said he woke up to the news and has been “sick over it.”

“We don’t have any contact with him and just feeling sad and sorry for the Pelosi family,” Ron DePape said. “It’s just a sad event. It has to be mental health issues that he’s been carrying around, I would think.” Ron DePape, who lives in Powell River, British Columbia, said David DePape lived in Powell River for a short time before leaving “at an early age” to follow a girlfriend who lived in the U.S.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/Paul-Pelosi-violently-assaulted-in-San-17541007.php

Having mental health issues may make someone more vulnerable to the Qanon and antisemitic crap stuff he professed, and to acting violently on it, but the driving force of the Trump bigotry and encouragement of violence must be centered.

BootinUp

(51,323 posts)
21. The squalous involved is usually found in the Mar a Lardo region.
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 11:44 AM
Oct 2022

Its a quite large squalous.

Gore1FL

(22,951 posts)
33. I suspect the list is inclusive of everything he complained about on social media. nt
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 12:43 PM
Oct 2022

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. Actually, Kpete, my observation has been that most on political forums
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 11:57 AM
Oct 2022

leap to assume that normal people are acting out political malice, a view that facilitates calling to "lock them up!"

And that it's the possibility of mental illness that's blown off before it even needs to be dismissed. Presumably to avoidraising the unpalatable possibility that responsible mental care and protection in prison might be more appropriate than the satisfying imagining of vengeance wreaked by just throwing them in with mobs of sociopaths in general population.

Not that I don't have my own fantasies of hard life in prison for THOSE WHO SYSTEMATICALLY WEAPONIZED THIS WEAK-MINDED CREEP AND TURNED HIM ON SOCIETY.

Never to forget in our anger that we and the tRumpists are all targeted for defeat by the same power blocs.

We're all The People whose power must be destroyed.

BootinUp

(51,323 posts)
29. The strategy of one of the two major US political parties
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 12:14 PM
Oct 2022

is to make government not function well. Exceptions for the connected of course.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
34. Yes -- during the transition to making it function very well for a
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 12:55 PM
Oct 2022

RW authoritarian ruling class.

There have been blatant indications since the 1980s that RW powers realize they must eliminate democracy to eliminate our power to stop, and eventually destroy them. Fascistic and totalitarian types want to eliminate all the liberal norms our culture's based on, including our grossly inflated expectations of individual rights and freedoms, very unsuited to the needs of authoritarian states.

Discontented people will let go easily, even insist on having taken away, what they're too thoughtless to value or imagine being without. Until it's too late. So first sow the discontent, feelings of victimhood, grievance, helplessness, fear -- and new awareness that everything's wrong and nothing worth saving.

Fortunately for humanity, only some soak that loser crap up.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
28. Don't know why "Amber Heard hater" is in there. She was SAVAGED by so many.
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 11:59 AM
Oct 2022

And most of them were WOMEN. If anyone paid attention to that shitshow women were after her from day ONE. Nothing to do with politics everything to do with "Depps a STAR!!!!"

catbyte

(39,152 posts)
31. I can't stand Amber Heard either, lol. She's a bad actress and an even worse liar.
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 12:35 PM
Oct 2022

After watching almost every day of the Depp/Heard trial, I'm convinced that Depp was the victim in that awful, toxic relationship.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
39. I like telling repukes...
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 05:08 PM
Oct 2022

Yo listen I do not support treason.
They know what you are saying.

ffr

(23,398 posts)
40. According to MSNBC, David DePape, Nancy Pelosi's would-be assassin, is a believer in Transhumanism
Sat Oct 29, 2022, 06:27 PM
Oct 2022

The Steve Bannon promoted demonetization of one billion who were vaccinated from Covid-19. Paul Pelosi, in their eyes, is just another "lab rat" "cyborg" they are at war with.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217299320

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