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In It to Win It

(8,224 posts)
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 11:00 AM Oct 2022

Rep. Tim Ryan says he'll 'fight anybody from any party' who pushes 'bullcrap' that Ohio is no longer

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Ohio, once a perennial Midwestern bellwether state, has not voted for a Democratic presidential nominee since Barack Obama was reelected to a second term in 2012.

Sen. Sherrod Brown, who was first elected to the upper chamber in 2006, is the rare Democratic statewide officeholder who has found longterm success in the increasingly Republican-leaning state.

And some Democrats have argued that funding for political candidates is better spent in newer swing states like Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina, as they see Ohio as having drifted beyond their reach.

It's a mindset that Rep. Tim Ryan, this year's Democratic Senate nominee, has wholeheartedly rejected — pointing to the need for the party to once again engage with the working-class voters who had traditionally been a major part of the party's base.

Ryan has run a highly competitive race against Republican Senate nominee JD Vance, surprising many Democrats who were skeptical that their nominee would be in contention to carry the Buckeye State this year.
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Rep. Tim Ryan says he'll 'fight anybody from any party' who pushes 'bullcrap' that Ohio is no longer (Original Post) In It to Win It Oct 2022 OP
If Dems leave out the rust belt again, LakeArenal Oct 2022 #1
I thought Ryan said he didn't want Biden to campaign with or for him? nt Samrob Oct 2022 #5
My mind is 2016. WI was quite overlooked. LakeArenal Oct 2022 #9
Party control--both--is killing our country h2ebits Oct 2022 #2
I live in Ohio, I will say that the former Dem leader, David Pepper did a better outreach irisblue Oct 2022 #3
The fact that nobody knows who she is says it all. Boomerproud Oct 2022 #10
Ohio is no longer ... Xoan Oct 2022 #4
Ohio...is...no...longer JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2022 #6
who pushes 'bullcrap' that Ohio is no longer in play for Democrats Celerity Oct 2022 #7
In play for Democrats mahina Oct 2022 #8
Ryan's opponent literally came out in favor of wife beating, said childless people should have fewer dsc Oct 2022 #11

h2ebits

(640 posts)
2. Party control--both--is killing our country
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 11:41 AM
Oct 2022

We MUST get back to a "country over party" mindset.

Happens with both parties but I hear it more from the Democratic Party officials as they plot and plan how and where to spend money--they give up before they start in a lot of areas because. . . .too something. Can't win it. Don't bother trying to get people elected into office. Don't waste money for futile effort.

In fact, because of our political system, we have a lot of "fly over" states. Politicians don't bother campaigning in states that they feel they cannot win because money is now god and time is too much to make an effort in every place.

If we changed the political system to eliminate the electoral college (it is a relic of the past) so our President won on the popular vote; we would have a much better feel for the current needs of our country. And, it would require "politicking" everywhere--not just in the states guaranteed to "win."

If we eliminated gerrymandering, . . . .

If we eliminated dark money, . . . .

It is not insurmountable but we ALL need to work at it. Independents are a growing part of the population due to dissatisfaction and, since the pollsters generally don't bother with them, they have a great ability to swing elections.

irisblue

(32,917 posts)
3. I live in Ohio, I will say that the former Dem leader, David Pepper did a better outreach
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 11:58 AM
Oct 2022

then the current state Dem leader

edit, I had to look up her name & Twitter handle. Elizabeth Walters has been state chair since Jan 2021.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,315 posts)
6. Ohio...is...no...longer
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 02:20 PM
Oct 2022

Cross the eastern border of Indiana, and you're in Pennsylvania. Drive south from Michigan and you cross into Kentucky. There used to be something in the middle of all that, dunno what happened.

I'll miss the Toledo Mudhens.

mahina

(17,612 posts)
8. In play for Democrats
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 02:22 PM
Oct 2022

Rep. Tim Ryan says he'll 'fight anybody from any party' who pushes 'bullcrap' that Ohio is no longer in play for Democrats

dsc

(52,147 posts)
11. Ryan's opponent literally came out in favor of wife beating, said childless people should have fewer
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 03:39 PM
Oct 2022

rights, and is a terrible retail politician. Even with that, the race is at best a tie. We should be spending money on this race, but future ones not so much.

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