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Lady Freedom Returns

(14,198 posts)
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 12:51 PM Oct 2022

I can't stress this enough.

If you see any size of dog in a service jacket trying to get you to follow them, DO IT!

Due to size restrictions on dogs in public housing and other places small dogs are being used for many to help them, Like my Sunny.

Using myself as an example. If I am out and about and get too hot or cold I can't use my hands to work my phone to call for help. Sunny would and is trained to get help.

So please don't think small dogs are not service dogs pretending to be service dogs. Someones life could count on you to understand that no matter the size, someone needs help.

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I can't stress this enough. (Original Post) Lady Freedom Returns Oct 2022 OP
Kicking for visibility SheltieLover Oct 2022 #1
Thank you. Lady Freedom Returns Oct 2022 #2
Yw! SheltieLover Oct 2022 #3
I work at Conjuay Oct 2022 #4
You just made me smile too. soldierant Oct 2022 #19
Dogs are far more intelligent than a signficant percentage of people realize. Any dog that tries hlthe2b Oct 2022 #5
Precisely! Lady Freedom Returns Oct 2022 #6
AMEN! soldierant Oct 2022 #20
Dogs are far more intelligent than a signficant percentage of people DemocraticPatriot Oct 2022 #25
Just kicking it back up. Lady Freedom Returns Oct 2022 #7
Kick! and thanks for the heads-up! Hekate Oct 2022 #8
It never occurred to me that size was a disqualifier for a service dog MissMillie Oct 2022 #9
There are people out there that think only German Shepherds can be one. Lady Freedom Returns Oct 2022 #15
Oh, I've seen lots of different breeds of dogs with the vest MissMillie Oct 2022 #18
Why would anyone think a small dog with a service vest is just "pretending"?? Beartracks Oct 2022 #10
There are people that have put service vests on dogs so they can take them places. Lady Freedom Returns Oct 2022 #16
Anything that helps people, especially the disabled soldierant Oct 2022 #21
Aaah, okay. Yeah, I can see people doing that. Beartracks Oct 2022 #22
Yes, there is fraud. TNNurse Oct 2022 #33
I've known several people with small svc dogs RainCaster Oct 2022 #11
K&R Native Oct 2022 #12
Many fake Service Dogs.... Jade Fox Oct 2022 #13
It's a very serious problem. Lady Freedom Returns Oct 2022 #17
Just awful that people actually do this sammythecat Oct 2022 #24
Self-centered people who don't wnylib Oct 2022 #28
Thank you, for that extremely important information wendyb-NC Oct 2022 #14
YOU got it!! TigressDem Oct 2022 #23
Thank you, I did not know this. mrsadm Oct 2022 #26
"Sunny" :) AntivaxHunters Oct 2022 #27
His full name is Sunny Honey Bunny. Lady Freedom Returns Oct 2022 #40
Having had a couple dogs in my lifetime wnylib Oct 2022 #29
Good to know ...Thanks for informing us. 🙂👍 nt Raine Oct 2022 #30
That is great small dogs can be service dogs Meowmee Oct 2022 #31
Several of my Scotties have been trained as hearing alert dogs. This is a REAL service dog. Scottie Mom Oct 2022 #32
A special hug for your precious Abbie. niyad Oct 2022 #35
Abbie says, "Woof." Scottie Mom Oct 2022 #36
She is beautiful! niyad Oct 2022 #37
Kicking for visibility. You have stated an excellent point that could save niyad Oct 2022 #34
Understood. I have seen a service chihuahua and was stunned. She was r/o SoBlueInFL Oct 2022 #38
Sunny's practically a nurse maid. Lady Freedom Returns Oct 2022 #41
A dog-walking acquaintancefriend had a seixure response dog. BobTheSubgenius Oct 2022 #39

SheltieLover

(80,449 posts)
3. Yw!
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 12:57 PM
Oct 2022

Humans need to learn to be more receptive to and respectful of other species, canines especially!

Conjuay

(3,067 posts)
4. I work at
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 01:00 PM
Oct 2022

a large entertainment complex where everyone wears name tags. One day I realized one of the service dogs I see regularly has a company issued name tag. It always makes me smile that they thought so much of this young woman and her guide dog that they made the dog an honorary team member.

hlthe2b

(113,953 posts)
5. Dogs are far more intelligent than a signficant percentage of people realize. Any dog that tries
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 01:01 PM
Oct 2022

to get your attention (frantically) and to get you to follow them may well be seeking your help. So, yes, any breed or size, and certainly if they are wearing a service vest. In Colorado people not infrequently pass out or have other serious health events outdoors during cold or snow periods. We have many incidents where the dog accompanying them has sought help. If they are smart enough to come to us for help, the least we can do is be smart enough to do so.

soldierant

(9,354 posts)
20. AMEN!
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 04:00 PM
Oct 2022

My generation gre up with "Lassie." As many jokes as there are about repetetive plots on that show, it did make us expect a frantic dog wanting you to follow them to know something they didn't.

MissMillie

(39,652 posts)
9. It never occurred to me that size was a disqualifier for a service dog
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 01:45 PM
Oct 2022

I always just figured that if there was a vest, it was a service dog.

MissMillie

(39,652 posts)
18. Oh, I've seen lots of different breeds of dogs with the vest
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 03:52 PM
Oct 2022

German Shepherds for sure, but Golden Retrievers too. And even some dogs that I determined for myself to be "mutts" or mixed breeds.

I always figured it was about the training.

Beartracks

(14,591 posts)
10. Why would anyone think a small dog with a service vest is just "pretending"??
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 02:34 PM
Oct 2022

I mean, I guess I can see people just going, "Awww..." and walking on. But to think it's cosplaying?? If I've got a dog in uniform trying to get my attention, I'd certainly follow it -- ESPECIALLY after your very helpful post. So, thank you!

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Lady Freedom Returns

(14,198 posts)
16. There are people that have put service vests on dogs so they can take them places.
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 03:33 PM
Oct 2022

It has caused many issues.

soldierant

(9,354 posts)
21. Anything that helps people, especially the disabled
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 04:02 PM
Oct 2022

or less abled, will be taken unfair advantage of by some people

Jade Fox

(10,030 posts)
13. Many fake Service Dogs....
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 02:52 PM
Oct 2022

Thousands of people now claim their pets are Service Dogs in order to get them into places -grocery stores, restaurants- where pets are not allowed. Fake service dog vests are readily available.

People with true service dogs should be issued some sort of documentation. Laws need to be changed.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,198 posts)
17. It's a very serious problem.
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 03:42 PM
Oct 2022

Take for instance emotional support dogs.

They are real service dogs that alert the person that they are at their limit and need to get to a quiet place before they have a panic attack.

Pretending your dog is a emotional support dog is so wrong. Those dogs help to prevent a mental health breakdown.

wendyb-NC

(4,690 posts)
14. Thank you, for that extremely important information
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 03:24 PM
Oct 2022

I learned something about Service Dogs, that could save a life. Thank you again, Lady Freedom.

TigressDem

(5,126 posts)
23. YOU got it!!
Sun Oct 30, 2022, 07:29 PM
Oct 2022

Thanks for the head's up.

My Aunt's dog is small and not exactly a service dog, but she knew when things were not right and when we did a wellness check, then the paramedics came she gave us all kinds of love. She knew we were there to help.


wnylib

(26,008 posts)
29. Having had a couple dogs in my lifetime
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 07:36 AM
Oct 2022

who were very alert to trouble and helpful when needed - without prior training or command - I always "listen to" dogs that alert people to a problem. They know what they are doing when they seek help or act on their own to give help.

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
31. That is great small dogs can be service dogs
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 07:44 AM
Oct 2022

Your Sunny sounds great. 😀 I was just reading the ADA site and it says the dog does not have to wear a jacket or be certified which I didn’t realize. I’m wondering how you’re supposed to tell if they are really a service animal in that case, very odd.

I have been thinking about in the future getting a service dog but I would not want to get a large dog with my cats. Plus it is very expensive to have them trained etc.

If a dog came up to me and asked for help I would try to help. 😀

Scottie Mom

(5,838 posts)
32. Several of my Scotties have been trained as hearing alert dogs. This is a REAL service dog.
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 08:10 AM
Oct 2022

While usually small in size, they are sturdy and relentless when on duty. Amazing to see the change in posture and the look in the dog's eye when that jacket goes on.

I wish to add: A hearing alert dog is as necessary to a person who is hearing impaired as is, for example, a service dog for the sight impaired. I cannot hear things behind me...emergency sirens, a car approaching when I am walking in a parking lot, a person yelling, for example, "watch out." My hearing alert dog "hears" this for me. At night, I cannot hear smoke alarms or someone yelling that there a fire and I need to get out. If I have fallen and don't have my cell phone, the dog will find and bring it to me so I can contact 911. If the cell is ringing and I am not responding I get a doggie alert, if there someone is at the door, my dog gets me and circles at the door. Even in a store and my back is turned, if a clerk is talking to me, my dog will let me know if someone is speaking to me. As to emergency sirens, my Abbie rides shotgun -- seat behind and attached to the driver's seat -- right by me and since I have some hearing left, if there is a siren, she is right in my ear both physically and with sound. Same for a car horn honking, just a different nudge...not as "in my face" as with a siren.

She is small, but mighty!!!! And she is a blessing.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,198 posts)
41. Sunny's practically a nurse maid.
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 07:19 PM
Oct 2022

Luckily he is happy to have the night off when a certain gentleman call comes to call.

BobTheSubgenius

(12,217 posts)
39. A dog-walking acquaintancefriend had a seixure response dog.
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 11:50 AM
Oct 2022

If Robert had a seizure when they were away from home, and the pad she pressed to call 911, Naveed would sit or stand near him and bark until someone came to help. My Cairn was just CRAZY about her.

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