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JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 09:32 AM Oct 2022

Based on what I am hearing on the financial networks, Bloomberg and CNBC, one analyst after another

predicting their doom and gloom for us, along with the Wall Street echo chamber, they could care less if Democracy in the U.S. was lost.

It is just about high gas prices and inflation, and it is all the Democrats' fault. greg valliere was on Bloomberg this morning spewing that people are concerned why "all that money is going to Ukraine, and nothing to the U.S."

Ignoring the legislation that the Democrats managed to get through.

They are the most selfish assholes in the world.



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Based on what I am hearing on the financial networks, Bloomberg and CNBC, one analyst after another (Original Post) JohnSJ Oct 2022 OP
When all the financial headlines are negative... Shermann Oct 2022 #1
They want trmps tax breaks spanone Oct 2022 #2
Gas is plummeting and even food prices are dropping some and stabilizing. onecaliberal Oct 2022 #3
Gas is $3.38 this morning and most of us get extra off from that. True Blue American Oct 2022 #13
Still $3.59 for 87 octane here... IthinkThereforeIAM Oct 2022 #24
It's over 5 dollars in most places in California. We have to get off oil. onecaliberal Nov 2022 #53
Gas is 3.19 last time I think Meowmee Nov 2022 #52
They're talking down the economy. GoCubsGo Oct 2022 #4
The DOW as up around 3000 points. True Blue American Oct 2022 #14
Makes you wonder if the wall street pricks are spreading panic because CD's and savings bonds have.. Crowman2009 Oct 2022 #29
They live on gloom and doom. True Blue American Oct 2022 #31
That, and..... SergeStorms Oct 2022 #35
100% True Blue American Nov 2022 #45
What? former9thward Oct 2022 #40
The last 2 weeks True Blue American Nov 2022 #46
+1 betsuni Nov 2022 #48
Even if Biden/Democrats were proposing giving Americans the same amounts of money as Ukraine Mad_Machine76 Oct 2022 #5
Everything is going according to plan. gab13by13 Oct 2022 #6
Inflation is going down ..... Lovie777 Oct 2022 #7
They gaslight the ignorants to make them think the money goes to Ukraine... Justice matters. Oct 2022 #16
Right! True Blue American Nov 2022 #47
Oh, they care... 2naSalit Oct 2022 #8
Yet, I don't think there is or ever was one successful fascist capitalistic state. TheBlackAdder Nov 2022 #49
True. 2naSalit Nov 2022 #51
SO. The US Billionaires who own the Republican Party are having a jealous about Ukraine. CousinIT Oct 2022 #9
Giving money to the poor and middle class gab13by13 Oct 2022 #10
Corporate greed is the main reason. DeeDeeNY Oct 2022 #30
ITA SoBlueInFL Oct 2022 #32
I always wondered why representative democracy is routinely conflated with capitalism Beastly Boy Oct 2022 #11
The Republicans need to foster the idea that they are winning... ananda Oct 2022 #12
I guarantee they are doing that in Pa. gab13by13 Oct 2022 #15
My first thought. rubbersole Oct 2022 #19
Michael Moore DownriverDem Oct 2022 #17
More also said that Romney would win. His predictions are as accurate as a flip of a coin JohnSJ Oct 2022 #20
Yes they are Peacetrain Oct 2022 #18
Those republican apologist sites can eat this! ffr Oct 2022 #21
Free rein capitalism & democracy are mutually exclusive. The former is more profitable. NullTuples Oct 2022 #22
1920s Weimar Republic response, yes I know very different causes. irisblue Oct 2022 #23
They wan the rethungs in control for their tax cuts and to overturn environmental policies. uggh iluvtennis Oct 2022 #25
all this doom llashram Oct 2022 #26
when these assholes are whining-- it means the workers are winning LymphocyteLover Oct 2022 #27
Corporate price gouging is keeping food prices high. r/o SoBlueInFL Oct 2022 #28
If they really believed the doom & gloom message, they'd be terrified FakeNoose Oct 2022 #33
Wall Street reporters suck because they've all got tunnel vision Warpy Oct 2022 #34
Polls, economy "issues" are all cover for the corporate onslaught of both democracy & the Democratic ancianita Oct 2022 #36
The mass media are owned by profiteers. Kid Berwyn Oct 2022 #37
Corporations want to run everything and they can do it through their bought and paid for GOP hadEnuf Oct 2022 #38
Ukraine? Are they fucking kidding? TexasBushwhacker Oct 2022 #39
We are experiencing the biggest gaslighting/voter suppression operation in history. Efilroft Sul Oct 2022 #41
Putinflation. moondust Oct 2022 #42
these same fuckers didn't care when trillions of dollars were wasted in Iraq and Afghanistan Skittles Oct 2022 #43
Wall Street hates Democrats iemanja Oct 2022 #44
But we were told that Democrats are corrupt and completely beholden to Wall Street since the '90s. betsuni Nov 2022 #50

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,307 posts)
24. Still $3.59 for 87 octane here...
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 11:42 AM
Oct 2022

... just south of Sioux Falls, SD. 89 octane is $4.19 and premium 92 is $4.54 at the local BP station and store.

I have a Gas Buddy card, so I got 20 cents off per gallon. It has been at this price around here for a week.
 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
53. It's over 5 dollars in most places in California. We have to get off oil.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 09:06 AM
Nov 2022

The average price at one point was 5 dollars across the country. So yeah, it’s down.

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
52. Gas is 3.19 last time I think
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 06:40 AM
Nov 2022

Food prices are not dropping for me, they are going up. It is all price gouging imo.

GoCubsGo

(34,914 posts)
4. They're talking down the economy.
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 09:35 AM
Oct 2022

They did it under Clinton and Obama, as well, all while accusing the Dems of doing so as their policies were actually driving the economy into the shitter under both Bushes and Fat Bastard.

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
14. The DOW as up around 3000 points.
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 10:11 AM
Oct 2022

That makes a huge difference fot most. CD’s interest, big jump, wages are up. Jobs slowing but still more jobs than workers.

Crowman2009

(3,524 posts)
29. Makes you wonder if the wall street pricks are spreading panic because CD's and savings bonds have..
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 12:15 PM
Oct 2022

...better earnings than most stocks right now. Hence why people not in the 1% are buying those instead. I got an 18-month credit union CD at 3.95% recently.

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
35. That, and.....
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 12:23 PM
Oct 2022

corporations are going to start paying taxes now. The Trump tax breaks for the 1% are going to go bye-bye. America's freeloaders are going to pay taxes! How unfair is that?

So they're going to do everything in their power to alarm everyone in hopes of getting the GQP back in the saddle again.

Screw 'em! Pay up, you wealthy bastards 😤.

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
45. 100%
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 05:09 AM
Nov 2022

Squealing like stuck pigs. The Corporate media are losing their grasp.

I read yesterday that NPR is the only honest news. I also like PBS.

CNN is being turned into a Republican leaning wasteland. This week I noticed they cut off both the President and ex President Obama in the middle of their speeches, went back to senseless blathering. MSNBC carrupied Obamas full speech. And it was a barn burner on Hershel. Football player wanting to be Politician.

Mad_Machine76

(24,957 posts)
5. Even if Biden/Democrats were proposing giving Americans the same amounts of money as Ukraine
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 09:36 AM
Oct 2022

Republicans and Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema would be against it and blocking it and yelling "SOCIALISM!". These same "analysts" would also probably be accusing them of wanting to tank the economy and making everybody deadbeats who don't want to work.

gab13by13

(32,321 posts)
6. Everything is going according to plan.
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 09:42 AM
Oct 2022

The experts have decided to fix inflation by making people poorer, by creating more unemployment.

When people can't afford to buy things then the supply side will catch up. It is a cruel way to operate for the poor.

Lovie777

(22,979 posts)
7. Inflation is going down .....
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 09:43 AM
Oct 2022

new GQP talking point, fuck Ukraine, give money to Americans preferably rich Americans.

Justice matters.

(9,787 posts)
16. They gaslight the ignorants to make them think the money goes to Ukraine...
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 11:12 AM
Oct 2022

... while in reality, it goes to the military-industrial-complex that employs 'skilled' American workers to 'make the stuff' sent to Ukraine.

The money doesn't go to Ukraine directly, it ends up in Wall Street and in US workers' bank accounts.

2naSalit

(102,792 posts)
8. Oh, they care...
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 09:44 AM
Oct 2022

What they want is the collapse of Democracy because it inhibits their greedy pursuits.

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
49. Yet, I don't think there is or ever was one successful fascist capitalistic state.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 05:17 AM
Nov 2022

.

If fascism was such a great driver of capitalism, there would be at lest one.

.

CousinIT

(12,541 posts)
9. SO. The US Billionaires who own the Republican Party are having a jealous about Ukraine.
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 09:58 AM
Oct 2022

Alrighty then.

gab13by13

(32,321 posts)
10. Giving money to the poor and middle class
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 10:00 AM
Oct 2022

is not a cure for inflation. The Rescue Act really did add a bit to inflation. The price of gasoline and diesel is a big reason for inflation.

Greed is another big reason.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
11. I always wondered why representative democracy is routinely conflated with capitalism
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 10:03 AM
Oct 2022

I can't even see much of a connection between free markets and capitalism.

ananda

(35,144 posts)
12. The Republicans need to foster the idea that they are winning...
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 10:07 AM
Oct 2022

in the polls, so they can claim fraud if they lose and refuse
to concede.

rubbersole

(11,223 posts)
19. My first thought.
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 11:20 AM
Oct 2022

The blue tsunami has to be minimalized at all costs. They can have a "peoples" movement gain traction...not when they're so close to ending democracy.

DownriverDem

(7,014 posts)
17. Michael Moore
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 11:15 AM
Oct 2022

predicted that trump would win in 2016. Now he is saying there will be a huge Blue Wave. He also said the other day to stop reading or watching TV with all the negative news.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
20. More also said that Romney would win. His predictions are as accurate as a flip of a coin
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 11:25 AM
Oct 2022

That being said, I hope he is right this time

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
22. Free rein capitalism & democracy are mutually exclusive. The former is more profitable.
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 11:30 AM
Oct 2022

One might wonder therefore, if they are Republicans.

irisblue

(37,511 posts)
23. 1920s Weimar Republic response, yes I know very different causes.
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 11:36 AM
Oct 2022

edited Of the inflation & the relentless bleating about it on RW based media, both here & in Europe.

iluvtennis

(21,497 posts)
25. They wan the rethungs in control for their tax cuts and to overturn environmental policies. uggh
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 11:58 AM
Oct 2022

llashram

(6,269 posts)
26. all this doom
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 12:05 PM
Oct 2022

and gloom becomes moot the minute the voting booths are filled. These constant attempts by MSM and the polls to 'project' the outcomes sicken me. I suspect the followers of TPOSFG will follow their leader over the cliff's edge. I think we are much smarter than that and have the votes to WIN.

SoBlueInFL

(191 posts)
28. Corporate price gouging is keeping food prices high. r/o
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 12:14 PM
Oct 2022

No one is going to convince me that a bag of bread flour that cost me $7.48 six months ago should cost $12.53 now.

FakeNoose

(41,633 posts)
33. If they really believed the doom & gloom message, they'd be terrified
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 12:22 PM
Oct 2022

... BUT they all know it's bullshit. They have to do their job and spout the rightwing talking points, otherwise no paycheck. The sun will rise on November 9th, and they'll all be talking about the next "horse race."

I'm so sick of the American media, and mostly they've been whores since Ronald Reagan.

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
34. Wall Street reporters suck because they've all got tunnel vision
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 12:23 PM
Oct 2022

and don't realize there are two major ways to make money in the market: share price and dividends.

Share prices are likely to seesaw back and forth with the overall trend downward until the next Republican decides to increase the debt by another few tens of trillions by giving people who don't need them massive tax cuts. The age of fast money and the sky's the limit are coming to a close, and that's a very good thing.

Dividends, on the other hand, go up when business increases and business increases when more money gets into the hands of the people who actually do the work. And no, that 15% tax rate isn't going to cut into them appreciably. The tech companies that hid their profits overseas so they wouldn't have to pay taxes also don't pay dividends since no US profit is on the books.

What's got these guys seeing nothing but thunderclouds is the fact that the fast money years are over, the hot stock tips from now on are going to be for stodgy companies that pay their stockholders a share of the net profit. That depresses carnival barkers like Klayman and Cramer. Doom and gloom for those assholes means the market is going to go back to its normal self, one that's more sustainable.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
36. Polls, economy "issues" are all cover for the corporate onslaught of both democracy & the Democratic
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 12:25 PM
Oct 2022

Party.

They use any pretext and any means necessary to create confusion, lower human safety and GOTV.

Big Corps want a US corporate campus whose government they have captured. They are the road to unfreedom.

If it were only their selfish asshole bag men who were the problem. But this is much, much bigger.

Kid Berwyn

(24,395 posts)
37. The mass media are owned by profiteers.
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 12:26 PM
Oct 2022

Given the choice: money or democracy?

Democracy won’t get so much as a peep in before it’s time for a commercial break.

hadEnuf

(3,616 posts)
38. Corporations want to run everything and they can do it through their bought and paid for GOP
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 12:33 PM
Oct 2022

politicians. Although Covid can be blamed for some of it, this inflation is just unnatural. It's mostly greed and the GOP seems to be right in place to blame Biden and the Democrats for it. Its artificially induced inflation.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,202 posts)
39. Ukraine? Are they fucking kidding?
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 09:06 PM
Oct 2022

If Ukraine falls, who will Putin occupy next?

While I do not think that the war in Afghanistan accomplished much, as a response to 9/11, our allies from all over the world joined us in the fight. They had our back, and we are supposed to have theirs.

Efilroft Sul

(4,413 posts)
41. We are experiencing the biggest gaslighting/voter suppression operation in history.
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 09:29 PM
Oct 2022

The financial networks, for their part, serve the 1% and don't give a flying F about democracy.

Skittles

(171,710 posts)
43. these same fuckers didn't care when trillions of dollars were wasted in Iraq and Afghanistan
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 10:15 PM
Oct 2022

but now they are beefing about Ukraine? Un-fucking-believable

iemanja

(57,757 posts)
44. Wall Street hates Democrats
Mon Oct 31, 2022, 10:21 PM
Oct 2022

That's nothing new. This despite the fact the market has historically done better under Democrats.

betsuni

(29,078 posts)
50. But we were told that Democrats are corrupt and completely beholden to Wall Street since the '90s.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 05:20 AM
Nov 2022

Wall Street Wall Street Wall Street was the big don't-vote-for-Democrats propaganda in 2016 and it worked well enough. Hope all those who did that are happy.

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