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riversedge

(70,093 posts)
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 11:12 AM Nov 2022

Clinton Asks Judge to Sanction Trump Over Failed Conspiracy Suit--wants $1.6 is legal fees.

MaGA follks will cough up some more money for Trumps lawyers!!






Clinton wants Trump to pay her legal fees after tossed conspiracy lawsuit


https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3713206-clinton-wants-trump-to-pay-her-legal-fees-after-tossed-conspiracy-lawsuit/


by Zach Schonfeld - 10/31/22 7:02 PM ET


Former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton is asking a federal court to order former President Trump to pay her legal fees over a suit he filed alleging she and others engaged in a conspiracy to undermine his 2016 campaign with accusations of Russian collusion.

In a motion filed on Monday, Clinton’s attorneys cast Trump’s suit — which was dismissed by a federal trial court in September, a move the former president has appealed — as a “political stunt” and argued it met the threshold for the court to impose sanctions.

“A reasonable attorney would never have filed this suit, let alone continued to prosecute it after multiple Defendants’ motions to dismiss highlighted its fundamental and incurable defects,” Clinton’s attorneys wrote.

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Clinton’s attorneys for months have cast Trump’s suit as being politically motivated, and a judge appointed by former President Bill Clinton in September tossed the suit, describing it as “political manifesto.” Trump has since appealed to the 11th Circuit.

Under federal law, a judge can require attorneys who “unreasonably and vexatiously” multiply court proceedings to pay excess costs, expenses and attorneys’ fees reasonably incurred because of their actions.
Chief Ju




Clinton Asks Judge to Sanction Trump Over Failed Conspiracy Suit


https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/clinton-asks-judge-to-sanction-trump-over-failed-conspiracy-suit

Oct. 31, 2022, 5:21 PM

Hillary Clinton asked a federal judge to sanction former President Donald Trump and his lawyers for filing an allegedly frivolous lawsuit accusing them of conspiring to undermine his term in office.

Trump and his attorneys should be ordered to pay $1.06 million in legal fees and costs that were racked up by Clinton, her 2016 presidential campaign and several other Democratic-linked defendants for filing the suit as a “political stunt,” according to a filing Monday in federal court in Florida.

Trump’s “theories were obviously and fatally defective from the very inception of this action,” Clinton’s attorney David E. Kendall and ...

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Clinton Asks Judge to Sanction Trump Over Failed Conspiracy Suit--wants $1.6 is legal fees. (Original Post) riversedge Nov 2022 OP
That would be a gol-durned shame gratuitous Nov 2022 #1
Needy Amin. That's a good one. I'll have to remember that one. Ray Bruns Nov 2022 #8
ICYMI--Trumpi is appealing his Clinton lawsuit the the judge dismissed........... riversedge Nov 2022 #2
Kick him in the nuts Hillary. Pepsidog Nov 2022 #12
with steel toe boots. God, I'd pay money to see that, or Pelosi punching him out. Is that wrong? Evolve Dammit Nov 2022 #25
Certainly not. It's justice. Pepsidog Nov 2022 #34
If they make fun of a man in ICU for a broken skull, is it OK to root for a smashed testicle? I know Evolve Dammit Nov 2022 #36
100% Pepsidog Nov 2022 #37
The USSC dweller Nov 2022 #3
The claim for damages lawsuit is $1.06 million in legal fees FakeNoose Nov 2022 #4
HRC would not have filed this suit if she didn't know she was almost but assured of winning it. Botany Nov 2022 #5
She should get more than legal fees Bayard Nov 2022 #6
"Russia, if you're listening" (and Russia WAS listening... duh) Justice matters. Nov 2022 #18
When they loose Old Crank Nov 2022 #7
I would relish knowing the MAGA crowd that shouted BadgerMom Nov 2022 #9
Fuck that tweet! Look at those two photos. calimary Nov 2022 #10
yes. That was the first thing I noticed! LiberalLovinLug Nov 2022 #15
They have been doing that exact thing DENVERPOPS Nov 2022 #19
And we should be pointing that out! calimary Nov 2022 #32
the photos caught my eye right off the bat. trumpy is smirking and Hillary is upset or angry. At riversedge Nov 2022 #35
Yes, sheshe2 Nov 2022 #38
Thanks for the tip, she! calimary Nov 2022 #42
Here is the clip. sheshe2 Nov 2022 #43
First thing I thought, "Bwahaha! She's got him by his itty bitty balls!" Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2022 #39
How could she even find them without a microscope? calimary Nov 2022 #44
"Trump has since appealed to the 11th Circuit." That would be Clarence Thomas's assigned district. ancianita Nov 2022 #11
Yep.... SergeStorms Nov 2022 #13
Unless... ancianita Nov 2022 #14
it's the 2/3 in the Senate that would still be a problem. (Sigh). Evolve Dammit Nov 2022 #26
The Ds won't have 67 Senate votes to get him removed Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #29
I know. Wishful thinking. ancianita Nov 2022 #31
"Justice" Thomas will not be involved in the 11th Circuit Appeal appeal. TomSlick Nov 2022 #16
Cool. I'm using the pessimistic abundance of caution approach here. Thanks for the info. ancianita Nov 2022 #17
Given the dismissal order from the district court, affirmance by the 11th should be a slam-dunk. TomSlick Nov 2022 #20
Thanks. ancianita Nov 2022 #22
They should be when filed but you need a PACER account. TomSlick Nov 2022 #40
Got it. Much appreciated. ancianita Nov 2022 #41
Thomas will restart that suit Takket Nov 2022 #28
What do you think will happen? ancianita Nov 2022 #30
I like it, now lets see if the ORANGE A-O goes judge shopping again. republianmushroom Nov 2022 #21
My legal advice is to pay the $1.60. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2022 #23
This lawsuit was a joke LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2022 #24
even his lawsuits are projection... Evolve Dammit Nov 2022 #27
Good on Hillary! Cha Nov 2022 #33

riversedge

(70,093 posts)
2. ICYMI--Trumpi is appealing his Clinton lawsuit the the judge dismissed...........
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 11:19 AM
Nov 2022




Trump appeals judge’s dismissal of his sprawling lawsuit against Hillary Clinton and ex-FBI officials over Russia probe

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/11/politics/trump-lawsuit-hillary-clinton-russia-probe/index.html


By Kara Scannell, CNN
Published 7:18 PM EDT, Tue October 11, 2022


Former President Donald Trump is appealing a federal judge’s decision last month to dismiss his sprawling lawsuit against Hillary Clinton, the Democratic National Committee, several ex-FBI officials and more than two dozen other people and entities that he claims conspired to undermine his 2016 campaign by trying to vilify him with fabricated information tying him to Russia.

Trump’s attorneys filed a notice Tuesday indicating they are appealing to the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals.

Last month, US District Judge Donald Middlebrooks dismissed Trump’s lawsuit, saying, “most of Plaintiff’s claims are not only unsupported by any legal authority but plainly foreclosed by binding precedent.”
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“What (Trump’s lawsuit) lacks in substance and legal support it seeks to substitute with length, hyperbole, and the settling of scores and grievances,” Middlebrooks, an appointee of former President Bill Clinton, wrote.


Trump filed his sprawling lawsuit in March, naming a wide cast of characters that Trump has accused for years of orchestrating a “deep state” conspiracy against him – including former FBI Director James Comey and other FBI officials, the retired British spy Christopher Steele and his associates, and a handful of Clinton campaign advisers.

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Evolve Dammit

(16,702 posts)
36. If they make fun of a man in ICU for a broken skull, is it OK to root for a smashed testicle? I know
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 04:57 PM
Nov 2022

it's not, but if ever one was "deserved"... 'nuff said. RIP Stan Lee.

FakeNoose

(32,596 posts)
4. The claim for damages lawsuit is $1.06 million in legal fees
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 11:37 AM
Nov 2022

... according to the OP linked story.

Yes definitely - Chump needs to pay the damages for this frivolous waste-of-time lawsuit.

Botany

(70,449 posts)
5. HRC would not have filed this suit if she didn't know she was almost but assured of winning it.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 12:14 PM
Nov 2022

And Trump will have to pay the court costs too.

HRC is a very good lawyer with lots of legal knowledge and skills and she is gonna fuck up TFG big
time. Maybe she could get some of Trump's properties or his private plane or his overseas bank
accounts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton

Yale Law School, Private Practice, Professor of law, US Senator, Sec. of State, Leadership in Student Government
@ Wellesley, set up numerous charities and foundations, and ...

Justice matters.

(6,921 posts)
18. "Russia, if you're listening" (and Russia WAS listening... duh)
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 01:41 PM
Nov 2022

And it's Clinton's fault according to hair furhair...

That Fascist has got some stoopid lawyers all lining up for no pay!

Old Crank

(3,532 posts)
7. When they loose
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 12:21 PM
Nov 2022

They should be forced to stand and count out the cash is 20s. 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, until they get to the amount.

BadgerMom

(2,770 posts)
9. I would relish knowing the MAGA crowd that shouted
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 12:37 PM
Nov 2022

“Lock her up,” might end up sending Trump money to pay her legal bills. I’d like karma to act more powerfully, but I’d gladly take this.

calimary

(81,127 posts)
10. Fuck that tweet! Look at those two photos.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 12:40 PM
Nov 2022

Look how they chose a darker, shadowy photo of Hillary, compared to the fully-in-the-light photo of the orange guy.

Somebody’s being REALLY under-the-radar shrewd. We’ve seen this trick before. This, too, is effective MESSAGING.

It’s CRITICALLY important to be able to spot the attempts to yank our collective chain.

Know the enemy’s tricks! And call ‘em out so others’ eyes are opened.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,165 posts)
15. yes. That was the first thing I noticed!
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 01:32 PM
Nov 2022

Also, she looks upset and probably tired at that moment.

He looks well pleased with himself for something or other.

One has a more negative vibe, and the other more positive.

DENVERPOPS

(8,790 posts)
19. They have been doing that exact thing
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 01:43 PM
Nov 2022

for Many Many decades. Fox news has it mastered! You never see a pic of Obama on Fox news where they haven't darkened his skin tones much darker than reality.........

calimary

(81,127 posts)
32. And we should be pointing that out!
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 03:48 PM
Nov 2022

Loud and WAY often!

Now is not the time to remain silent.

Like my kid used to shout to the crowd when his band stepped up onstage: “Make some NOISE!!!!!”

riversedge

(70,093 posts)
35. the photos caught my eye right off the bat. trumpy is smirking and Hillary is upset or angry. At
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 04:50 PM
Nov 2022

least that was my first impression.

sheshe2

(83,661 posts)
38. Yes,
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 05:50 PM
Nov 2022

Also her hand is raised in the form of a claw.

MSNBC just had a fantastic, long segment on all the messaging/lies coming from the internet, FOX and GOP politicians etc. How dangerous the lies are and how quickly they spread. They had some good guests that were visibly upset about the dangerous rhetoric and the dangers of more violence.

Perhaps you could find it on MSN's site.

calimary

(81,127 posts)
42. Thanks for the tip, she!
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 09:47 PM
Nov 2022

I’m glad it’s being covered! Should be the lead at the top of every news hour!

SergeStorms

(19,187 posts)
13. Yep....
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 01:17 PM
Nov 2022

so we already know what the outcome of his appeal will be. He should recuse himself from this case as well, but we know he won't.

Thomas will go down in history as the most corrupt SC Justice of all time.

TomSlick

(11,092 posts)
16. "Justice" Thomas will not be involved in the 11th Circuit Appeal appeal.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 01:34 PM
Nov 2022

The supervising member of SCOTUS should only get involved if there is a further appeal to SCOTUS or a petition for emergency stay pending appeal to SCOTUS.

The 11th Circuit is a conservative court. If TFG loses on appeal - as he clearly should - SCOTUS should never be involved beyond denying a cert. petition.

ancianita

(35,950 posts)
17. Cool. I'm using the pessimistic abundance of caution approach here. Thanks for the info.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 01:40 PM
Nov 2022

He won the last 11th Circuit appeal and Thomas ruled on it right from the shadow docket. It's even doubtful his ruling will be reviewed by the whole court. And maybe these appeals are about different things, I dunno. Ordinarily I'm for due process but with tfg I'm just pessimistic about this prolonged due process bs.

Do you seriously think tfg will lose on appeal?

TomSlick

(11,092 posts)
20. Given the dismissal order from the district court, affirmance by the 11th should be a slam-dunk.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 01:44 PM
Nov 2022

That being said, all I know is what I read on DU. There might be some procedural issue about which I am unaware.

I will be curious to see the briefs before the 11th Circuit.

TomSlick

(11,092 posts)
40. They should be when filed but you need a PACER account.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:30 PM
Nov 2022

You can lookup any case in the federal system using PACER but you have to have an account and there is a per page fee.

Several states have similar systems for the state courts. They vary from state-to-state with how complete and user-friendly. Surprisingly, Arkansas has one of the better ones.

LetMyPeopleVote

(144,945 posts)
24. This lawsuit was a joke
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 01:58 PM
Nov 2022

This is the long lawsuit filed by two shopping center lawyers representing TFG against Hillary Clinton and large number of other people such as Comey, Perter Struck and others. No top tier law firm would touch this lawsuit. One of of the defenses to the statute of limitations defense was that TFG was too busy being POTUS to file this lawsuit




https://news.yahoo.com/judge-dismisses-trump-lawsuit-against-124420268.html

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. judge has dismissed Donald Trump's lawsuit against his 2016 rival Hillary Clinton, saying the former Republican president's allegations that Democrats tried to rig that election by linking his campaign to Russia was an attempt to "flaunt" political grievances that did not belong in court.

In throwing out Trump's lawsuit Thursday night, Judge Donald Middlebrooks of the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida said the lawsuit was not seeking "redress for any legal harm" and that the court was "not the appropriate forum" for the former president's complaints.

"He is seeking to flaunt a two-hundred-page political manifesto outlining his grievances against those that have opposed him," Middlebrooks said in his ruling.

Trump in March had sued Clinton, who was the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee, and several other Democrats alleging "racketeering," a "conspiracy to commit injurious falsehood" and other claims in a 108-page lawsuit that echoed the long list of grievances he repeatedly aired during his four years in the White House after beating Clinton.

He had sought compensatory and punitive damages, saying he had incurred more than $24 million in "defense costs, legal fees, and related expenses."

In his ruling, Middlebrooks said Trump had waited too long to file his complaint by exceeding the legal statute of limitations for his claims and that he failed to make his case that he was harmed by any falsehoods, noting that many of the statements made by the defendants were "plainly protected by the First Amendment" of the U.S. Constitution.

The opinion is 65 pages but is a fun read. The judge had fun telling TFG's shopping center lawyes that they re idiots
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