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global1

(26,507 posts)
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 04:35 PM Nov 2022

I Really Thought That Before The Election That Women Would Come Out To March In Force For.....

abortion rights.

There was an outpouring of support initially when SCOTUS made their decision - but that enthusiasm seems to have lost steam. I'm wondering why the women of this country haven't kept up their momentum?

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I Really Thought That Before The Election That Women Would Come Out To March In Force For..... (Original Post) global1 Nov 2022 OP
Why March when you can VOTE. vanlassie Nov 2022 #1
March To Keep This As An Important Issue For Which To Get Out The Vote....nt global1 Nov 2022 #3
My hope is they are knocking on doors ColinC Nov 2022 #12
It doesn't do that Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #34
They're not even doing that Deep State Witch Nov 2022 #2
Citation? emulatorloo Nov 2022 #8
Oh I saw this on Twitter a lot ColinC Nov 2022 #16
Twitter definitely doesn't represent reality, that's for sure. emulatorloo Nov 2022 #20
You have to crawl in the crevices to find semblances of it ColinC Nov 2022 #23
You don't know that. But how could you, the election... brush Nov 2022 #13
I have also wondered about this but, Quakerfriend Nov 2022 #4
You are wrong. They aren't calling it Roevember for nothing. LakeArenal Nov 2022 #5
Obama said that? Polybius Nov 2022 #37
Yes in 2018 GOTV. LakeArenal Nov 2022 #43
I think clinics and individuals have done a pretty good job in continuing to offer exboyfil Nov 2022 #6
It will always be available to them. n/t Mr.Bill Nov 2022 #9
At least 10,000 people were unable to get legal abortions in July-August because of Dobbs, and that WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2022 #15
I figure most women that are pro choice doc03 Nov 2022 #7
No. Elessar Zappa Nov 2022 #14
Marches make people feel good, but afterwards the work is done through databases and donations WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2022 #10
Well said. emulatorloo Nov 2022 #18
I'm wondering why people are preemptively blaming women for the vote... nt AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2022 #11
Same here. emulatorloo Nov 2022 #17
Ditto. MrsCoffee Nov 2022 #21
I'm a dad of a young woman GenXer47 Nov 2022 #19
This Is Our Opportunity Right Now - Waiting To See How It Goes Next Week - Might Be.... global1 Nov 2022 #26
we will make sure there are abortions for any woman needing one..just as we... samnsara Nov 2022 #31
People who march are only a small subset of the population LeftInTX Nov 2022 #22
Are you really blaming women? Elessar Zappa Nov 2022 #24
See My Reply #26 Above For My Answer To You....nt global1 Nov 2022 #27
We'll find out this election. Kaleva Nov 2022 #25
We are marching - to the polling place Alice Kramden Nov 2022 #28
just because women arent out there shouting and screaming and marching doesnt mean samnsara Nov 2022 #29
Seems like the early voting #s show different mcar Nov 2022 #30
we all see Conjuay Nov 2022 #32
Marching is a waste of time Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #33
I have a lot of faith in the women of America (and the men who support them). Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #35
Marching is one thing, but it is not The Work. GOTV is The Work. Hekate Nov 2022 #36
We will find out a lot of things Meowmee Nov 2022 #38
Yep Demovictory9 Nov 2022 #39
+1, uponit7771 Nov 2022 #44
Analysts said that women in blue states are getting relaxed knowing their rights are safe Demovictory9 Nov 2022 #40
Marching doesn't do a bit of good Bettie Nov 2022 #41
Too many think it's not their problem ecstatic Nov 2022 #42
Marching is a last resort when you have nothing else... Raine Nov 2022 #45

ColinC

(11,098 posts)
12. My hope is they are knocking on doors
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 04:46 PM
Nov 2022

To get out the vote. That would be far more impactful than any large march or public media events imho.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
34. It doesn't do that
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:27 PM
Nov 2022

Just like marching in massive numbers did exactly zero to stop the Iraq War. Or to get any meaningful change on racial equality and police brutality back in 2020.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

Deep State Witch

(12,717 posts)
2. They're not even doing that
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 04:38 PM
Nov 2022

Apparently women are more concerned about inflation and high gas prices than the loss of their reproductive rights.

ColinC

(11,098 posts)
16. Oh I saw this on Twitter a lot
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 04:49 PM
Nov 2022

Because everybody who is concerned about the economy blames Biden for it and not enough people care about abortion to vote on it.

Except, reality speaks differently. Between abortion and the economy, abortion is still a decent second place to the economy when only the two are considered. Also, not everybody who sees the economy as the main issue blames Biden for it. Second, nearly every voter who sees abortion as more important than the economy WILL blame Republicans for it! (They ran on it every election, after all)

ColinC

(11,098 posts)
23. You have to crawl in the crevices to find semblances of it
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 04:55 PM
Nov 2022

But yeah they are few and far between lol

Quakerfriend

(5,882 posts)
4. I have also wondered about this but,
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 04:38 PM
Nov 2022

I think we are all afraid of the violence that the right would create- They want mayhem.

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
5. You are wrong. They aren't calling it Roevember for nothing.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 04:40 PM
Nov 2022

As our greatest president said:

Don’t get mad. Vote. That’s what all the women and men I know plan on doing.

exboyfil

(18,359 posts)
6. I think clinics and individuals have done a pretty good job in continuing to offer
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 04:40 PM
Nov 2022

the needed reproductive services even with the challenges thrown out. Camping in a friendly state seems to be happening.

There will probably only be overwhelming pressure when the wives, daughters and mistresses of prominent Republicans actually get denied reproductive care.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,956 posts)
15. At least 10,000 people were unable to get legal abortions in July-August because of Dobbs, and that
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 04:49 PM
Nov 2022

number will only rise. States where it's still legal did see an increase, but not enough to offset the decrease in states where restrictions went into effect.

Elessar Zappa

(16,385 posts)
14. No.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 04:49 PM
Nov 2022

70% of women are pro-choice. That means that almost half of Republican women are for abortion rights.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,956 posts)
10. Marches make people feel good, but afterwards the work is done through databases and donations
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 04:45 PM
Nov 2022

and getting people involved in campaigns, whether electoral or through direct action/aid. After a march, a person who is activated might get involved with a local party or candidate, or volunteer at a clinic, or any number of things. Sustained marches are messy and take a lot of effort for not a lot of payoff.

 

GenXer47

(1,204 posts)
19. I'm a dad of a young woman
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 04:51 PM
Nov 2022

so I should be out there just as much as women should. I think we are all exhausted, and of course it's getting cold outside, and I think a lot of us are just waiting to see how it goes next week. If a national abortion ban takes place, you can bet there will be protests, boycotts, all sorts of things, and it will be everyone's problem, not just women.

global1

(26,507 posts)
26. This Is Our Opportunity Right Now - Waiting To See How It Goes Next Week - Might Be....
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 05:21 PM
Nov 2022

too late.

If a national abortion ban takes place - even if there will be protests, boycotts and - as you say - all sorts of things - we've lost our window to an election in the future.

I say keep the fire burning now - so next week we won't be kicking ourselves.

And I'm not blaming women here. This is a responsibility for all Americans. GOTV!!!!

samnsara

(18,767 posts)
31. we will make sure there are abortions for any woman needing one..just as we...
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:03 PM
Nov 2022

..did in the 1970s..and 1670s...

LeftInTX

(34,302 posts)
22. People who march are only a small subset of the population
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 04:54 PM
Nov 2022

We have 1.2 million voters in my county.
If 10,000 march, that's only 1% of the voters.

People who march have likely already voted etc.
But it's only a very small subset.

Alice Kramden

(2,951 posts)
28. We are marching - to the polling place
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 06:18 PM
Nov 2022

Why else would there be such large numbers of early voters ... there is no lack of enthusiasm among women, I assure you

samnsara

(18,767 posts)
29. just because women arent out there shouting and screaming and marching doesnt mean
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:01 PM
Nov 2022

..theres a lack of enthusiasm..



.....we are just quietly plotting.....

mcar

(46,059 posts)
30. Seems like the early voting #s show different
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:03 PM
Nov 2022

Lots more early voting than in previous cycles. Lots more women registered to vote.

The women in my red county have kept up the momentum. We've had Women's Rights rallies several times in the last month.

Conjuay

(3,067 posts)
32. we all see
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:26 PM
Nov 2022

how vindictive and vicious repugnantcans can be. With a march, all those same low life lizards need is some face recognition software and a camera to make anyones life a living hell. The voting booth does not allow that potential problem to occur.

Screaming in the streets is great, I wish it was nonstop near a few political bastard’s residences, a few SCOTUS scumbags residences, and 24/ 7 in front of fox news.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
33. Marching is a waste of time
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:24 PM
Nov 2022

It hasn't done anything since Selma.

Getting out the vote--that will do something constructive.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
35. I have a lot of faith in the women of America (and the men who support them).
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:42 PM
Nov 2022

Reports of huge early turnouts make me feel sanguine that no one has forgotten Dobbs.

Bettie

(19,704 posts)
41. Marching doesn't do a bit of good
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 12:02 AM
Nov 2022

anymore.

5 MAGATs in a parking lot get nationwide coverage and are called a "movement".

Thousands of women might get a mention on the local news. Maybe, if it's a slow news day.

So, we vote because it's all we can do.

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
42. Too many think it's not their problem
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 12:27 AM
Nov 2022

Maybe because they think it won't affect them either way. They're unable to see the big picture. They're unable to see how those laws make ALL women second and third class citizens. If a woman anywhere can be forcibly probed and or thrown into jail over something they did with their own body (to a clump of cells the size of a pea), where do we stand in this society? But, you can't force or beg people to have common sense. It's really quite sad.

Raine

(31,179 posts)
45. Marching is a last resort when you have nothing else...
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 01:23 AM
Nov 2022

Last edited Wed Nov 2, 2022, 06:46 PM - Edit history (1)

why march when you can vote, use your energy for GOTV.

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