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CurtEastPoint

(19,824 posts)
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:47 PM Nov 2022

CNN story headline: "The bottom is dropping out of the 2022 election for Democrats." Fuck CNN.

Last edited Wed Nov 2, 2022, 08:08 AM - Edit history (1)

MY APOLOGIES to anyone who is pissed I posted this w/o comments, details, etc. My intent no matter how bad the news might be for our side, the mainstream media delights in shoving inflammatory headlines to the front page. That's all I meant.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/01/politics/democratic-seats-jeopardy-gallup-polling/index.html


With just a week left until the 2022 midterm elections, the political environment appears to be eroding rapidly for Democrats – especially in areas where the party has long held sway.

“The scariest Halloween reality for House Democrats is the number of seats President [Joe] Biden carried comfortably in 2020 that are at genuine risk a week out,” wrote Dave Wasserman, the House editor at the Cook Report with Amy Walter, a nonpartisan campaign tipsheet.

To that end, Wasserman shifted race ratings for 10 Democratic-held seats into more jeopardy – including three apiece in the Democratic redoubts of California and New York.

On the same day Wasserman made his changes, Gallup released a report that suggests the political winds are all blowing in Republicans’ direction.

The numbers are daunting for Democrats:

* Just 40% of Americans approve of the job Biden is doing as president.

* Only 17% express satisfaction with how things are going in the US.

* 49% say the state of the economy is “poor.”

* A meager 21% approve of the job the Democratic-led Congress is doing.
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CNN story headline: "The bottom is dropping out of the 2022 election for Democrats." Fuck CNN. (Original Post) CurtEastPoint Nov 2022 OP
Normally I would say fuck Gallup, gab13by13 Nov 2022 #1
Ignore the polls AND fuck CNN! BigmanPigman Nov 2022 #2
This!👆 SheltieLover Nov 2022 #9
TY BP.. Cha Nov 2022 #32
It hard to ignore this white noise but try. I really can't watch to much cable FloridaBlues Nov 2022 #3
Maybe so...perhaps the election will go as they say... Docreed2003 Nov 2022 #4
wasserman is god walking here on DU. eff him too? nt msongs Nov 2022 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Baked Potato Nov 2022 #6
I know it can get worse but I wonder what worse would be like? Last time I felt like this was walkingman Nov 2022 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Baked Potato Nov 2022 #17
IF this country falls into the sewer .... LenaBaby61 Nov 2022 #22
Turn it off. onecaliberal Nov 2022 #7
Oh noes.... Lovie777 Nov 2022 #8
REALLY THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Nov 2022 #23
Have a briefing with Wasserman tomorrow... brooklynite Nov 2022 #11
Not buying their doom & gloom for Dems. SheltieLover Nov 2022 #12
Right wing cnn sings doom and gloom for the dems Fullduplexxx Nov 2022 #13
Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voters. triron Nov 2022 #14
21% approve on congress? Good luck with repukes. triron Nov 2022 #15
Historically, that's what happens. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2022 #16
And the 1998 midterms iemanja Nov 2022 #33
All cable news networks want a horse race Deminpenn Nov 2022 #18
And now from our reporter on the scene.... Turbineguy Nov 2022 #19
THIS is what the so-called liberal but is NOT liberal at all mostly corporate media wants .... LenaBaby61 Nov 2022 #25
Authored by Chris Cillizza - key fact OP leaves out. Justice Nov 2022 #20
Ding Ding Ding. Cillizza. Enough said. hlthe2b Nov 2022 #37
Chris Cillizza seems to be the Steve Kornacki of CNN brooklynite Nov 2022 #40
We know he is biased due to this dsc Nov 2022 #48
Yup hlthe2b Nov 2022 #50
No. Some of us have followed and read his crap for many years. hlthe2b Nov 2022 #49
You mean the guy who referred to HRC as mcar Nov 2022 #51
Blaming CNN for reporting Wasserman's analysis. onenote Nov 2022 #21
Cannot wait to see the MSM eat crow budkin Nov 2022 #24
The bottom is dropping out of CNN, and I approve of them 0%. milestogo Nov 2022 #26
WHEN the Democrats win both houses next week, CNN and others will conveniently forget about Ferrets are Cool Nov 2022 #27
Do you really believe we will win both? Polybius Nov 2022 #30
Of course. Why wouldn't I? Ferrets are Cool Nov 2022 #43
There's now an 85% chance that we lose the House Polybius Nov 2022 #62
I don't subscribe to the doom and gloom. Ferrets are Cool Nov 2022 #63
The chances are just too large to ignore Polybius Nov 2022 #64
OK Ferrets are Cool Nov 2022 #65
You think we're going to win both? nt BlackSkimmer Nov 2022 #42
Yes I do. Demsrule86 Nov 2022 #59
But are polls a real thing anymore? GoodRaisin Nov 2022 #28
um, none of the things listed have anything to do with the individual races bigtree Nov 2022 #29
Democrats ALWAYS vote earlier Polybius Nov 2022 #31
I don't believe Georgia breaks out their votes by dems and repubs Ellipsis Nov 2022 #36
you can look at by county and get even more from ev totals bigtree Nov 2022 #53
look at the numbers. At this point in 2018 Rs had 300k national vote lead. Today Ds lead by 2.6m. bigtree Nov 2022 #52
Early voting was small in 2018 Polybius Nov 2022 #54
every report out there says we're outstripping 2020 bigtree Nov 2022 #58
The thing you have to consider about GA is that even though Republicans are voting, Jose Garcia Nov 2022 #55
I think GA goes to a runoff for their Senate race Polybius Nov 2022 #56
increase in black voters to the polls could close the gap bigtree Nov 2022 #60
+1, uponit7771 Nov 2022 #35
If it's such trash, why are you posting it? iemanja Nov 2022 #34
Some of these posts serve only to increase anxiety, especially if they are not put in context hlthe2b Nov 2022 #39
At the same time they report the record-breaking numbers when it comes to Vinca Nov 2022 #38
Setting up for fraud claims vercetti2021 Nov 2022 #41
BINGO! Hugin Nov 2022 #45
Of course I see it vercetti2021 Nov 2022 #47
They are setting up for all of the ridiculous challenges. Hugin Nov 2022 #44
This should embolden Dems to get out and vote. Emile Nov 2022 #46
Generic ballot has Democrats up by 5. Demsrule86 Nov 2022 #57
Does this sound like bottom falling out for Dems: Mad_Machine76 Nov 2022 #61

FloridaBlues

(4,645 posts)
3. It hard to ignore this white noise but try. I really can't watch to much cable
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:57 PM
Nov 2022

Especially this coming week. The voters might surprise you next week with solid Dem support.

Docreed2003

(18,707 posts)
4. Maybe so...perhaps the election will go as they say...
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 08:59 PM
Nov 2022

But it won't be so until the last vote is cast. We still have the power to rebuke this red wave.

Ever since the last election, we've heard nothing but "dems chances are dim", "the GOP will retake the House" and on and on. The media has been complicit in the narrative that "Democrats haven't done enough" and largely ignored the incredible successes of the Biden administration. If Trump had accomplished a fraction of what Biden has done, we would have never heard the end of it on the airwaves.

If they win, I fear for what will come, but they haven't won yet. The fight goes on...

Response to CurtEastPoint (Original post)

walkingman

(10,257 posts)
10. I know it can get worse but I wonder what worse would be like? Last time I felt like this was
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 09:14 PM
Nov 2022

the day after the election in '20. I just could not believe it.

Response to walkingman (Reply #10)

LenaBaby61

(6,991 posts)
22. IF this country falls into the sewer ....
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 10:02 PM
Nov 2022

It's not coming back out. That's the reality. The GQP will pack legislatures across the country picking electors for not only their red states but for blue states also, and we in blue states won't be able to stop them because the GQP doesn't believe in states rights, except for RED states ....

Lovie777

(21,569 posts)
8. Oh noes....
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 09:09 PM
Nov 2022

It's gonna be even worst on 11/2/2022 from corporate media...,,

Good news tho, NV is still in the mix....

And so are others.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
11. Have a briefing with Wasserman tomorrow...
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 09:14 PM
Nov 2022

If his analysis is true, blaming CNN for reporting it isn't accomplishing anything.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,823 posts)
16. Historically, that's what happens.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 09:23 PM
Nov 2022

The only anomaly in at least fifty years was Dubya’s first midterm. And that was an extraordinary circumstance with 9/11 and the constant terror “alerts”.

iemanja

(57,314 posts)
33. And the 1998 midterms
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 12:25 AM
Nov 2022

When people were pissed at the Republicans over Clinton's impeachment. But yeah, people seem to be ignoring basic historical reality. Hating the media doesn't change the headwinds.

Deminpenn

(17,274 posts)
18. All cable news networks want a horse race
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 09:25 PM
Nov 2022

because no one times in for a blowout.

Wasserman's a good analyst, but shifting races from solid to lean doesn't mean the candidate ahead won't stay ahead.

Further, Wasserman's has PA-7, 8 and 17 as toss ups, yet the last poll on 8 had Cartwright at 50%, PA 7 Wild is in the increasingly Dem LV and PA 17 is my district. Schaffer the R candidate already lost his race for state Senate in 2018 in a district that is completely contained within PA-17. The district lost a solid R component of its previous iteration and gained area in Allegheny Co.

Yet there is no mention of PA-10 where the current incumbent is Scott Perry, a J6th conspirator who has not won his elections by large margins.

LenaBaby61

(6,991 posts)
25. THIS is what the so-called liberal but is NOT liberal at all mostly corporate media wants ....
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 10:06 PM
Nov 2022

Yep, the so-called Liberal yet is mostly corporate, reich-winged, greedy for ad dollars and clicks they miss since fatso isn't eating document in the White House still ....

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
40. Chris Cillizza seems to be the Steve Kornacki of CNN
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 06:29 AM
Nov 2022

They “know” (without watching) that he’s a biased voice.

dsc

(53,308 posts)
48. We know he is biased due to this
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 08:09 AM
Nov 2022
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2009/08/reporter_apologizes_for_kind_o.html

Had he done this to a similarly high ranking GOP politiican he would have been fired, plain and simple.

hlthe2b

(112,622 posts)
49. No. Some of us have followed and read his crap for many years.
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 08:25 AM
Nov 2022

There is no reason to believe he's actually become competent after all these years.

mcar

(45,596 posts)
51. You mean the guy who referred to HRC as
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 08:28 AM
Nov 2022

"Old B!tch?"

Yeah, I'd say he's a biased voice.

Ferrets are Cool

(22,504 posts)
27. WHEN the Democrats win both houses next week, CNN and others will conveniently forget about
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 10:14 PM
Nov 2022

how wrong they were.

Polybius

(21,387 posts)
62. There's now an 85% chance that we lose the House
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 12:28 PM
Nov 2022

To put this in perspective, that's a 15% chance that we win. Trump had a 29% chance of winning in 2016 and won, but that's far greater than 15%.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/house/?cid=rrpromo

Polybius

(21,387 posts)
64. The chances are just too large to ignore
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 12:33 PM
Nov 2022

It's not about doom and gloom, it's about reality. Overcoming 85% would be a massive upset.

GoodRaisin

(10,696 posts)
28. But are polls a real thing anymore?
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 10:23 PM
Nov 2022

Who still answers their phones when an unknown caller lights up?

bigtree

(93,314 posts)
29. um, none of the things listed have anything to do with the individual races
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 10:31 PM
Nov 2022

...what an absolute crock of doo.

Simon Rosenberg
@SimonWDC 5h
Know everything is supposed to suck for Dems right now, but here's the early vote so far (D/R):

GA 50-42
IA 59-37
MI 51-28
NC 50-43
NV 51-43
OH 44-40
PA 73-24
VA 55-30
WA 57-31
WI 39-32

Doesn't mean we win, but seeing lots of Dem intensity so far. That's good.




Polybius

(21,387 posts)
31. Democrats ALWAYS vote earlier
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 10:46 PM
Nov 2022

Republicans come out in drives on Election Day itself. If GA is that close now, we're doomed.

Ellipsis

(9,410 posts)
36. I don't believe Georgia breaks out their votes by dems and repubs
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 12:38 AM
Nov 2022

This is the current early vote right now... about 6 million people voted in Georgia in 2020.


Total Early Votes: 1,810,427
In-Person Early Votes: 1,638,287
Mail Ballots Returned: 172,140
Mail Ballots Requested: 274,914

bigtree

(93,314 posts)
53. you can look at by county and get even more from ev totals
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 08:54 AM
Nov 2022

Click through the tabs in the graphics to see more voter turnout data, including turnout for Black and white voters as well as by county, plus how the early vote so far compares to total votes in 2018.

https://www.gpb.org/news/2022/10/30/see-who-voting-early-in-georgias-2022-election

"So far, early voting in Georgia has been marked by a higher share of older voters and Black voters than similar times in previous elections."

Approximately 27% of new voters are Black, 52% are women and 49% registered in 2022.

bigtree

(93,314 posts)
52. look at the numbers. At this point in 2018 Rs had 300k national vote lead. Today Ds lead by 2.6m.
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 08:46 AM
Nov 2022

...Democrats up, republican vote DOWN.

Georgia voters continue 'record pace' of early voting in 2022 midterm election

Secretary of State Office Chief Operating Officer says over 1.6 million Georgians have voted - more than 1.5 million in-person and over 155,000 via absentee ballot.

As of Friday, the number of early voters was 36% higher than the same time during 2018's midterm election.

"One in five active voters have already gotten their vote in, and we will hit the 2-million-mark next week," said Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger

According to the Georgia Secretary of State, the counties with the highest vote turnout are Greene (34.6%), Rabun (33.5%), and Towns (33.5%). Tift County has the lowest vote turnout as of Monday, at 20.37%.

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/georgia-voters-record-early-voting-2022-midterm-election


...posting fears and cynicism without any actual facts backing it up isn't the way to promote votes.

Polybius

(21,387 posts)
54. Early voting was small in 2018
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 10:31 AM
Nov 2022

How does 2020 compare? It is a fact that Democrats love early voting far more than Republicans. Republicans love voting on Election Day far more than Democrats.

bigtree

(93,314 posts)
58. every report out there says we're outstripping 2020
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 11:48 AM
Nov 2022

...this is tiresome, but let me do the work for you.

from the article I posted above:

"The Abrams campaign touted high Black turnout thus far, with about 35.5% of the advance ballots coming from Black voters. In 2020, when Biden won, that was 33% through one week of advance voting. In 2018, when Abrams lost, it was 31%. Groh-Wargo highlighted Black men, as well, saying the campaign’s analysis shows that about 97,000 Black men have voted already; that was about 45,000 at this point during Abrams’ losing effort."
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/georgia-voters-record-early-voting-2022-midterm-election


Georgia early midterms voting so far surpassing 2020 presidential election
With less than three weeks until the midterm elections, Georgians are already casting their ballots at a fast pace -- with vote counts on Tuesday surpassing 2020 presidential election records for the second day of early voting, surging to nearly twice the early vote totals of 2018 at the same point.

As Georgia entered its third day of early in-person voting on Wednesday, over 291,700 people have voted -- 268,050 in person and 23,690 absentee. In 2020, the early vote numbers after the second day were 266,403, and in 2018 they were 147,289, according to the secretary of state's office.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/georgia-early-midterms-voting-so-far-surpassing-2020-presidential-election/ar-AA139yaH

...any questions?

Jose Garcia

(3,416 posts)
55. The thing you have to consider about GA is that even though Republicans are voting,
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 11:28 AM
Nov 2022

they may not be voting straight party. There is likely to be a significant number of people who will vote for Kemp but skip the Senate race as they dislike both candidates.

Polybius

(21,387 posts)
56. I think GA goes to a runoff for their Senate race
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 11:37 AM
Nov 2022

I think Walker loses in December though. But yeah, I'm afraid that Kemp wins with well over 50%.

bigtree

(93,314 posts)
60. increase in black voters to the polls could close the gap
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 12:02 PM
Nov 2022

...with black residents making up most of the new voters, and the surge of those same voters we're seeing in the early vote.

I think it's a 5 point race in the polls and Abrams has the momentum, benefiting even more because of the interest in the other races.

iemanja

(57,314 posts)
34. If it's such trash, why are you posting it?
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 12:29 AM
Nov 2022

Or do you all enjoy complaining about the media that much? It's gotten really old.

hlthe2b

(112,622 posts)
39. Some of these posts serve only to increase anxiety, especially if they are not put in context
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 06:10 AM
Nov 2022

or the OP does not mention dissenting opinions, polls, or sources. While I think that is generally innocent and do so with the OP here, DUers should note the influx of posters (even those who may not be recent registrants) who are bringing this stuff here and repeatedly posting for just that reason--to demoralize.

Vinca

(53,220 posts)
38. At the same time they report the record-breaking numbers when it comes to
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 06:10 AM
Nov 2022

early voting and it's common knowledge Democrats favor voting that way. I think the corporate media is just drumming up a story and you need controversy for a good story. Then, on election night, they get another "bombshell" story when it's a Democratic rout.

 

vercetti2021

(10,481 posts)
41. Setting up for fraud claims
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 06:38 AM
Nov 2022

That's what it really is. If we trounce these assholes into the dirt. They'll claim they were ahead in the polls and only fraud could have kept them from winning outright like the "media" predicted.

 

vercetti2021

(10,481 posts)
47. Of course I see it
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 08:02 AM
Nov 2022

My entire household agrees they're gonna try to rat fuck it with voter fraud and cheating claims

Hugin

(37,315 posts)
44. They are setting up for all of the ridiculous challenges.
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 07:50 AM
Nov 2022

They have to make it seem like there’s a lopsided victory.

I’m not sure that the media outlets are the source or if they are just passing on the Republican/Kremlin misinformation.

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