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Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 12:53 PM Nov 2022

Fetterman hold edge over Oz after Pennsylvania debate...five points.

Pennsylvania Lt. Gov. John Fetterman (D) is still holding an edge over Republican Mehmet Oz in their Senate race, according to a new poll that follows the only general election debate last week in which Fetterman struggled at times to answer questions as he recovers from his stroke.

A Monmouth University survey released Wednesday showed that 48 percent of respondents said they would definitely or probably vote for Fetterman, while 44 percent said they would definitely or probably vote for Oz.

Fetterman also appears to have a slightly higher ceiling for support, as 54 percent said they would definitely or probably not vote for Oz and only 49 percent said they would definitely or probably not vote for Fetterman.

Fetterman’s support in recent Monmouth polling has held steady, while Oz has made small but steady gains. Oz’s overall support has increased from 39 percent in September, and his “definite” support has increased by 7 points since early October.


Take heart folks...all the usual parameters are pretty meaningless this election with Juanuary 6, Roe, and Entitlements on the chopping block.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3715805-fetterman-holds-edge-over-oz-after-pennsylvania-debate-poll/
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Fetterman hold edge over Oz after Pennsylvania debate...five points. (Original Post) Demsrule86 Nov 2022 OP
I keep harping on this point on DU. Joe Cool Nov 2022 #1
As Biden said...Fetterman is Pennsylvania Demsrule86 Nov 2022 #11
I wasn't real sure his debating Oz was a good idea but I give him points for honesty and guts dutch777 Nov 2022 #2
Isn't 44%-48% four points? Polybius Nov 2022 #3
rounded up...what does it matter...it is still a lead and except for right wing garbage polls, he Demsrule86 Nov 2022 #12
Here- a big who cares. Fetterman is and has been ahead. Demsrule86 Nov 2022 #13
Why do you say who cares? Polybius Nov 2022 #15
BUT 538!!!! budkin Nov 2022 #4
What I don't see happening is a lot of split ticket voting PRETZEL Nov 2022 #5
Except for in GA Polybius Nov 2022 #6
That's quite possible PRETZEL Nov 2022 #8
Exactly right - there's no reason NOT to vote straight Dem ticket FakeNoose Nov 2022 #9
I agree that josh's margin will be bigger than Fetterman's PRETZEL Nov 2022 #10
5? Seems like 4. triron Nov 2022 #7
This race has been stable for months Deminpenn Nov 2022 #14
K&R for a true and blue Democrat! Just_Vote_Dem Nov 2022 #16

Joe Cool

(743 posts)
1. I keep harping on this point on DU.
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 01:07 PM
Nov 2022

There are as many or even more Fetterman compared to Oz signs in many red areas of Pennsylvania. These are areas in which Democratic signs are sometimes outnumbered by 5 to 1 if not worse in past election years.

Maybe folk hero isn't accurate for him, but Fetterman is definitely some type of folk figure in Pennsylvania. He grew up in central PA, went to college in eastern PA, and lives in western PA. He knows the state.

dutch777

(3,031 posts)
2. I wasn't real sure his debating Oz was a good idea but I give him points for honesty and guts
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 02:02 PM
Nov 2022

And I think others do too and not just Dems. I was voting for him anyway but I know Republicans that are real torn. Some have pointed out they really don't want Oz but they fault Fetterman for poor judgement in not dealing with known health issues before it lead to his stroke. I like the guy but given that he seeking a seat in the most powerful legislative body on the planet I would be lying to say the issue about bad judgement provides me with some worry too. But I suspect in all of this he has learned alot and remains the best candidate for the people of PA.

Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
12. rounded up...what does it matter...it is still a lead and except for right wing garbage polls, he
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 03:28 PM
Nov 2022

has been ahead.

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
5. What I don't see happening is a lot of split ticket voting
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 02:32 PM
Nov 2022

john has, imho, a much greater advantage given Josh Shapiro's lead. I just don't see much of a split ticket voting here.

I don't know about the other parts of the state but the Oz (and pretty much all the R's) going all in on being "moderate, bipartisan" politicians. It would be nice if the Fetterman campaign (as well as other D's) getting the message of disingenuousness between what they said in the beginning of the campaign and what they're trying to sell now.

FakeNoose

(32,703 posts)
9. Exactly right - there's no reason NOT to vote straight Dem ticket
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 02:39 PM
Nov 2022

... unless you're a Repuke who refuses to vote for Mastriano. There are a few of those this year.

If they won't pull the lever for Mastriano, why are they willing to support Oz? It boggles my mind, but some of them are doing exactly that. There's no question in my mind that John Fetterman will be our next Senator. But I think he'll win by fewer votes than Shapiro will.

Get used to it: "Senator John Fetterman" and "Governor Josh Shapiro"!

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
10. I agree that josh's margin will be bigger than Fetterman's
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 03:07 PM
Nov 2022

that'll be the split ticket, independent voting block where that'll happen. But that block I don't think will be close enough to cover the R's who will decide to sit out instead of voting for Shapiro/Oz.

My personal opinion, in the analysis of this election, I wouldn't be surprised that there were more R's deciding to sit this one out.

Deminpenn

(15,289 posts)
14. This race has been stable for months
Wed Nov 2, 2022, 03:52 PM
Nov 2022

The ridiculous amount of money (about 70M) spent by Oz/McConnell has succeeded in driving up Fetterman's negatives, but hasn't really done much to boost Oz' numbers. He's been in the upper 30s, low 40s and stayed there.

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