"Women voting for Republicans is like roaches voting for RAID"

[kpete]

The conversation prompted a debate over political issues that are the most important to voters this election and comments made by former President Barack Obama at political rallies this week.

Sara Haines indicated that her most important issue, which she acknowledged is a privileged one financially, is the election deniers "because I think it stands at the heart of democracy."

Sunny Hostin said that what has been the most surprising to her is a poll she read on Wednesday saying that "white, Republican, suburban women are now going to vote Republican."

"Why?" asked Joy Behar.

"It's almost like roaches voting for RAID, right?" Hostin quipped to laughter and applause from the audience.

VIDEO:
https://www.rawstory.com/republican-women-vote-against-choice/
https://ew.com/tv/sunny-hostin-calls-white-women-voting-republican-roaches-voting-for-raid/

[whathehell]

1. Old men on Social Security and Medicare -- The same.

Can we maybe stop blaming women for Everything?

ETA: The WSJ poll you (and Hostin) are referencing was roundly debunked here the other day.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

2. Women who vote Republican are FUCKING IDIOTS!!! Plain and simple.

For they care NOTHING for the Economic, Social, and Political gains women before them made on the behalf of ALL women for well over 135 years.

Be that....
The right to form and be part of a Union
Get better pay and benefits
To VOTE
To have Bank accounts and Credit cards in their names
To have better job and educational opportunities
To choose when to be a Mother
Use Contraceptives to avoid pregnancy until the right time
To marry the person they love(same sex marriage)
To NOT be discriminated against because of sex (gender)
To have equal protection under the law, even Trans women as well

And the list goes on. Women who continue to vote Republican will be all the more shocked when they see their rights and freedoms get curtailed. We all suffer!

[walkingman]

4. I agree with your statement but I will remind you that women

have been forced to be subordinate for centuries by religion and patriarchy. It is hard to break the psychological influence that has caused. At least that is my opinion. Otherwise, like you, I just can't understand it. Likewise, I think a lot of men loathe and fear strong women for similar reasons.

[Kaleva]

7. Yet black women vote D. Same with Native American women

[walkingman]

15. That is interesting - so I read a few more articles about it. Maybe this...

"We are a country that is built around a white patriarchy, in which white men from the founding have been afforded economic, political, public, social, and sexual power and other people have been barred from it.

White women, via their associations with white men, have enjoyed that proximal power and are thus incentivized to defend it, to uphold it. They benefit from white supremacy, and many are dependent on patriarchy, which they are then moved to support, politically and socially."

[Kaleva]

21. +1

[whathehell]

16. More White women than White men vote D

and a Majority of College Educated White women voted against Trump in 2016, significantly more than did college educated White men.
.
That said, people in all demographics vote against their own interests. Over twice as many Black Men (13%) voted for Trump in 2016, as did Black women (6%) and many Hispanics -- again, largely men -- voted for Trump that same year.

[Kaleva]

20. Republicans couldn't stand a chance if white women voted D

in roughly the same percentages as Native American women and Black women.


It wouldn't even have to be a majority of white women. A plurality of white women would suffice.

[whathehell]

23. They'd stand even LESS of a chance if

White Men, who, at ALL levels, are much more likely to vote R than white women, did the same..
..Stop trying to blame it all on them.

[Kaleva]

27. White people, men and women, have to own it

What would Democrats have to do to attract a slight majority of the white male and female vote? Would you want to be a member of such a party?

[whathehell]

28. Yes, and many are...

but I see no reason to focus on a half of that group, especially since it's the half in much less need of the "owning".

[republianmushroom]

3. Nailed it

[Beachnutt]

5. Or Chickens voting for colonel Sanders

[brooklynite]

6. And the purpose of a comment like this?

It makes the audience feel good and convinces nobody to change their vote.

[BannonsLiver]

8. My guess is that the purpose was humor, given the context.

I hope that clears it up for you.😉

[brooklynite]

10. Lines like this tend to get out to the larger audience.

Case in point: Hillary Clinton's "basket of deplorables"; Glenn Youngkin's comments about Paul Pelosi. I'm sure it got a good laugh from the crowd; who knows what insulting a bloc of voters will do on Election Day.

[BannonsLiver]

13. Yeah, you're confusing a network morning show with a GOTV rally

These people aren’t elites or strategists, they go on air and fill it with blather every day. It’s not a DNC strategy sesh with your pals. Happy to clear that up for you.

[brooklynite]

14. I'm considering the network morning show that reports on the rally.

[Baggies]

22. Exactly!

Whoever this individual is, and I use the term loosely, they just called half of women “roaches”. I would say “not a polite thing to say”, but today calls for “saying that was really fucking dumb.” Yes, crap like this gets out and gets nailed to the Party as a whole. May not be fair, but that’s how it works.

[Raine]

34. Yes, exactly 🙁 nt

[BannonsLiver]

9. "BuT It DOeSnT cOnViNcE aNyOne!11"

Unfortunately that’s often the case with the truth.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

11. White women play a huge role in upholding white supremacy, and their voting patterns are one tactic.

[whathehell]

24. .A MUCH lesser role in it than White Men..

As writer Katha Politt has said, "Misogyny is the last acceptable bigotry of the Left", so we know we're easier targets, but why not keep your big boy pants on and stick with the Big Game?

[WhiskeyGrinder]

26. I don't think it's misogyny to try to answer the question "why do women vote Republican," which I

see asked in various forms here all the time, including in the OP. White women tend to vote Republican. Knowing why can help us change that.

[Amishman]

12. economics and some social issues

inflation is a biggie, and we've unfortunately been successfully hung with the blame in most of the public's eyes - especially when we tried to downplay it when it started taking off.

But also Pubs have used transphobia as a social wedge. Plenty of mothers are uncomfortable with what is framed as promoting LGBTQ lifestyles to children (not saying that is what is being done, but it is what is being framed!). We find ourselves being positioned to defend things like Dragqueen Story Time, which quite a few parents find creepy.

[jimfields33]

17. Crime seems to be center stage

That New York woman who was killed yesterday after her ex got out of jail due to no bond law isn’t helping either.

[Amishman]

18. ooof, just looked that one up. Hadn't caught it before. That doesn't help.

bail reform is one of those things that getting it right is like trying to balance on the edge of a knife. Blanket no cash bail for most offenses seems to be too lenient.

[Solly Mack]

19. White women benefit from white supremacy and will vote to maintain it in a bid to retain their own

status within a white male dominant structure.

Not all white women will vote that way but too many will.

They'll vote for their own oppression, and the oppression of others, as long as they still get to feel they are better than everyone else.

Their embrace of their belief in their own superiority as white people is what matters to them - even if that status is completely dependent on white males and all the bad that comes with it.

Racism has a hierarchy and then you factor in the full social structure of straight, white, christian male dominance and the levels of that hierarchy increases -

Male v. Female
White v. Black, Brown, etc.
Straight v. LGBT
Christian v. Everyone else

from all the combinations that creates.

They, just like their male counterparts, engage in "Who am I better than today?" self-esteem delusions.

Their delusions in no way excuse them. It's a choice they make.

[whathehell]

25. ..And Black men benefit from Male Supremacy

and their delusions are no "excuse" for them either. ..Have a nice day.

[Duppers]

37. Christian religion on male dominance....

Ephesians 5:22-25
Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands. Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,

1 Corinthians 11:8-9
For man was not made from woman, but woman from man. Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.

Titus 2:3-5
Older women likewise are to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or slaves to much wine. They are to teach what is good, and so train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled.

1 Corinthians 11:3
But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.


Okie dokie, then.

[Duppers]

38. And on "white male dominant structure"

I love Lyndon Johnson's quote:

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket.

Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."


A blueprint for getting poor white, especially white southern men's votes.

[Solly Mack]

39. Johnson understood about the hierarchy.

And the Bible is used as always to oppress.

[ForgedCrank]

29. Comparing women

to roaches is ok now?
I'm not a woman and I'm not voting for a republican, but I still find that rather offensive no matter who said it.

[whathehell]

30. It IS offensive..

especially because women are HARDLY the only demographic who, in voting Republican, vote against their own interests, and thus fit the analogy.

Why, for instance, do working men, especially blue collar men, vote for the party who ROUTINELY votes against Labor Unions and the Minimum Wage? They have clearly shown themselves, for at least a century, to be The Party of the Super Rich. Roaches voting for Raid indeed.

[Aepps22]

31. Yet the Same

Yet those same men will complain that government won’t help them. The Republican way of thinking is just one big scam. They get all of the credit for good things and none of the blame when they hurt the same people that vote them in.

[Raine]

35. Yes, very offensive. nt

[LeftInTX]

32. They got it from a Latino comedian

Who said Latinos for Trump was like roaches for Raid. I find it offensive. This was from several years ago.

[Duppers]

36. It's okay.

No offence, but this female isn't offended.

Some heavy male dominance feels like being squashed like a roach. Been there and it's horrible.

[betsuni]

33. I knew it. People are so stupid. She didn't call anyone a cockroach.

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President Obama's "lipstick on a pig" comment turned into OMG HE CALLED SARAH PALIN A PIG. Saying something is like chickens voting for Colonel Sanders isn't calling anyone a literal chicken. Ugh.

Reminds me of what Bill Bryson said about Americans: "Their approach to everyday encounters is trusting, straightforward, almost touchingly literal. They don't expect any verbal sleight of hand in conversations, so it tends to throw them when you employ it."

Touchingly literal. Really annoying when people don't understand idioms and so on. Like how people said Hillary was the lesser of two evils in 2016 and then denied they were calling Hillary evil. No, no, no, they'd say. Yes, yes, yes, that's what the fucking idiom means, TWO EVIL THINGS.