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CaliforniaPeggy

(149,674 posts)
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 02:01 PM Nov 2022

How slavery helped spawn modern U.S. gun culture--Op-Ed in the LA Times.

By Nick Buttrick

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-11-06/slave-states-american-gun-culture-reconstruction-civil-war


Two-thirds of American gun owners say that they own their gun at least in part for protection — this despite data showing having a gun in the house doubles the likelihood that someone in the household will die by homicide, triples the likelihood that someone in the household will die by suicide, and provides little or no defense against assault or property loss.

Where does this unique set of beliefs about the protective power of a gun come from?

~snip

The South was a very dangerous place after the war. More than half a million men, with their weapons, returned to what rapidly became one of the most heavily armed societies in the world, and one of the most violent: The murder rate in the South during the 1870s was an estimated 18 times higher than in New England — largely driven by white men killing each other.

The postwar period was shaped by the Reconstruction administration’s efforts to expand political power to those who had been emancipated and the backlash against this attempt. Elite white Southerners considered the empowerment of the previously enslaved population an existential threat and worked to repress Black political power as completely as possible.

As part of that project, white Southern leaders explicitly anchored the protection of their way of life in the private ownership of firearms, arguing that guns protected white people from an illegitimate government unwilling to keep them safe. The huge supply of firearms from the war made this argument salient.

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How slavery helped spawn modern U.S. gun culture--Op-Ed in the LA Times. (Original Post) CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2022 OP
I saw a meme: "God did not write the 2nd Amendment. Slave owners did." TomDaisy Nov 2022 #1
That makes sense! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2022 #2
Near 150 years ago, white existential angst birthed the first big lie sanatanadharma Nov 2022 #3
They were pretty damn violent 100 years before the Civil War, too!! Grins Nov 2022 #4
Absolutely! AndyS Nov 2022 #5
The south Casady1 Nov 2022 #6
so true tikka Nov 2022 #8
Honor cultures trend in that direction. Igel Nov 2022 #11
Well, whatever. jeffreyi Nov 2022 #7
Why do they like guns? tikka Nov 2022 #9
I don't know. jeffreyi Nov 2022 #12
It also spawned modern gun control hack89 Nov 2022 #10

sanatanadharma

(3,714 posts)
3. Near 150 years ago, white existential angst birthed the first big lie
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 02:29 PM
Nov 2022

Damn! We are all still suffering the results of 'white on white' crime and the first big lie that someone else was the problem.

Grins

(7,224 posts)
4. They were pretty damn violent 100 years before the Civil War, too!!
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 02:43 PM
Nov 2022

REALLY VIOLENT!

If you ever read Fox Butterworth’s “All God’s Children” (about the boy so violent the laws against trying minors as adults was changed) the opening chapters are FILLED with violence going back to the 1730’s.

One section reveals a confederate soldier wounded in a major Civil War battle, saying he was safer there than back home in South Carolina.

AndyS

(14,559 posts)
5. Absolutely!
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 03:16 PM
Nov 2022

Then there's this fellow: https://www.democraticunderground.com/1172212474
who took what those old white men started and ran with it.

The Gun Rights Movement is fond of saying that gun control laws are racist. Considering the % of victims by race is skewed heavily toward people of color I'd say yes, they are 'cause we don't have enough of them!

tikka

(762 posts)
9. Why do they like guns?
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 04:18 PM
Nov 2022

Is it for the craftsmanship or engineering perfection? This is probably true of some gun owners. Is it for the destructive power? Why?

jeffreyi

(1,943 posts)
12. I don't know.
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 07:15 PM
Nov 2022

The high end ones are often beautifully crafted. My dad collected guns. He just liked them. He did not like to kill animals, but enjoyed shooting at a skeet range. On the other hand, some people in the family viewed the guns as mere p#nis extensions. Maybe so.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
10. It also spawned modern gun control
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 05:34 PM
Nov 2022

The laws of the times often explicitly reserved gun ownership to “free white men”. Disarming POC was has a long history in America going back to colonial times.

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