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Idaho vote by mail requires postage, does not indicate how much and a single stamp is (Original Post) brewens Nov 2022 OP
Same with AL absentee ballot. al_liberal Nov 2022 #1
TRUE bull shit! elleng Nov 2022 #2
It should at least say how much. I kind of think they send them through because I have not brewens Nov 2022 #3
Sending mail postage due delays mail for days. pwb Nov 2022 #4
Blue Colorado does this too, and I think it's annoying. cos dem Nov 2022 #5
I always put two stamps on ballots and tax returns. madinmaryland Nov 2022 #6
They used to do that in California but at some point that cut that shit The_Casual_Observer Nov 2022 #7
Well, me. But I'm old. Shrike47 Nov 2022 #8
Look at the letter VGNonly Nov 2022 #9
that may reflect a lower bulk rate DBoon Nov 2022 #10
Good to know. Thanks. n/t brewens Nov 2022 #13
No postage necessary in my county Deuxcents Nov 2022 #11
These states have no integrity. No honor. They are not to be trusted. lindysalsagal Nov 2022 #12
a cheap kitchen scale will give you the correct weight yellowdogintexas Nov 2022 #14
Not true Genki Hikari Nov 2022 #16
ID Voter urbanhermit Nov 2022 #15
I think more of us should just vote in person Polybius Nov 2022 #17
The postage will often depend on the size of the ballot LeftInTX Nov 2022 #18
Oregon is FREE RETURN. Thunderbeast Nov 2022 #19

al_liberal

(420 posts)
1. Same with AL absentee ballot.
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 07:31 PM
Nov 2022

Just says extra postage required. I took it to the post office and it was $1.44, so even 2 stamps wouldn’t have been enough.

brewens

(13,615 posts)
3. It should at least say how much. I kind of think they send them through because I have not
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 07:38 PM
Nov 2022

heard of anyone complaining about it. It would be a waste of money to return them. They can't just destroy them either.

pwb

(11,287 posts)
4. Sending mail postage due delays mail for days.
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 07:42 PM
Nov 2022

Your vote will not count if held for collection of a few dimes.

cos dem

(903 posts)
5. Blue Colorado does this too, and I think it's annoying.
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 07:44 PM
Nov 2022

Surely they can figure out the proper postage.
A positive upside, though. We have drop boxes, and I prefer to use them anyway. Seems more secure and reliable than DeJoy's Post Office.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
7. They used to do that in California but at some point that cut that shit
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 07:57 PM
Nov 2022

Out. I can certainly believe that Idaho would still do that as they want to use every goddamn trick in the book to prevent people from voting. Just how many people have stamps laying around these days?

VGNonly

(7,504 posts)
9. Look at the letter
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 08:17 PM
Nov 2022

it was mailed from. Check the meter postage. Say it says .98 cents or 1.12 whatever, affix postage for that much.

Deuxcents

(16,298 posts)
11. No postage necessary in my county
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 08:34 PM
Nov 2022

I’m in Florida so next election, I’ll see if it changed. The whole
Point of mail in ballots is to make it easy. If ya have to go to the post office to weight the ballot for the correct postage, what’s the point of making it easy..o, wait.. 😡

yellowdogintexas

(22,270 posts)
14. a cheap kitchen scale will give you the correct weight
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 09:15 PM
Nov 2022

I check anything that I'm not sure aboton the kitchen scale.

if it is 1 oz or less, it can go on 1 first class stamp. If it is higher than 1 oz, the USPS website will tell you the correct postage total.

My mail in was .85 oz this year.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
16. Not true
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 11:11 PM
Nov 2022

REGULAR size letter mail gets the rate of 60c/oz.

Regular size = anywhere between 5"-11.5" long by 3.5"-6 1/8" high. The maximum allowed thickness is 1/4."

If your letter falls within the 1/4" thickness, and either of the other two ranges, then the USPS calls it "outsize" mail. The postage for that starts at 99c/oz.

If your mail piece is more than 1/4" thick, or bigger than BOTH of the L * W measurements for "letter" sizes, then it's what's known as a "flat," and that rate starts at $1.20/oz.

My local ballot qualified as outsized, but not a flat. So it cost $.99 to mail. In my experiences as a postal worker, most election ballots fell into this category.

So you not only have to know the weight of your mail, but also its L * W * H (Thickness).

The reason you have to pay more for outsize mail is because the letter-sorting machines can't read mail that doesn't conform to the regulation dimensions. Sometimes, the machines can't get some letter sizes through the physical mechanics involved to sort it.

Offsize mail either gets processed as flats, or, as a last resort, hand-sorting. Both are more labor-intensive and time-consuming to process compared to letter mail, hence the extra cost.

For future reference, the information about size classifications is here:

https://pe.usps.com/text/dmm100/mailing-domestic.htm

And basic price info is here:

https://www.usps.com/ship/first-class-mail.htm

If you weigh your mail at home, then you can use the USPS calculator to get your exact postage:

https://postcalc.usps.com/

Side note: USPS will NOT deliver mail that you put in a collection box if it a) weighs more than 1 lb, and b) uses stamps for postage. This is unfortunately a policy they had to implement as a precaution against mail bombs being sent through them, a la the Unabomber.

For all mailings over 1 lb, I strongly recommend getting postage + label from an online postage site. Of course, one can also use the automatic postage machine at most post offices, or the old-fashioned method of taking it to the window and letting the clerks do the job they're paid for.

urbanhermit

(751 posts)
15. ID Voter
Sun Nov 6, 2022, 10:42 PM
Nov 2022

I voted by mail as soon as I was able. I returned it with one stamp and looking it up, my ballot has been accepted.

Polybius

(15,465 posts)
17. I think more of us should just vote in person
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 01:23 AM
Nov 2022

There's too much BS going on. I don't know why we became so obsessed with mail-ins the past two years. I get it during Covid but not for forever.

LeftInTX

(25,490 posts)
18. The postage will often depend on the size of the ballot
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 01:31 AM
Nov 2022

Some ballots will have pages of propositions, but some ballots are only one page long. This is why they probably do not indicate the number of stamps. In Texas the VBM instructions are generic and come from the SOS. However, in my county, you can get ballots that are from 1 to 10 pages long in any given election. The Republican primary ballot was huge with tons of propositions, the Democrats was not. Now in this election there are some municipalities with propositions on the ballot and many without.

Thunderbeast

(3,417 posts)
19. Oregon is FREE RETURN.
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 02:19 AM
Nov 2022

I scoffed at the change when implemented two years ago, but ANYTHING that makes doing your civic duty easier is a good idea.

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