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AntivaxHunters

(3,234 posts)
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 12:28 PM Nov 2022

Breaking - Piper Lewis has escaped probation center!

Run girl! Run like hell!!!!!!

Article -- https://apnews.com/article/pieper-lewis-iowa-teen-who-killed-rapist-0b191f043f0820a70084a39cd8b4b6e1




Iowa teen who killed rapist escapes from probation center

DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — Iowa authorities say an 18-year-old sex trafficking victim who pleaded guilty to killing a man she said raped her escaped from a women’s center where she was serving her probation sentence.

Pieper Lewis was seen walking out of the building at the Fresh Start Women’s Center in Des Moines shortly after 6:15 a.m. Friday, and at some point that day her GPS monitor was cut off, according to a probation violation report.

A warrant was issued for Lewis’ arrest and the probation report asked for her deferred judgment to be revoked and have her original sentence imposed, KCCI reported. She could face up to 20 years in prison.

Prosecutors had called the probation sentence she was given in September merciful for a teen who endured horrible abuse, although some questioned the $150,000 restitution she was ordered to pay. A GoFundMe campaign raised over $560,000 to cover the restitution and pay for her other needs.


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Breaking - Piper Lewis has escaped probation center! (Original Post) AntivaxHunters Nov 2022 OP
If she was on probation, not facing prison and had enough money through go fund me to cover MLAA Nov 2022 #1
This isn't a good thing. Wingus Dingus Nov 2022 #2
Run, run, run. . . . h2ebits Nov 2022 #3
She got probation for murder Which she pleaded guilty to jimfields33 Nov 2022 #9
Travesty of justice. . . . h2ebits Nov 2022 #12
Actually if this is accurate it suggests the dead guy is not the trafficker Hugh_Lebowski Nov 2022 #27
She never should have received that sentence anyway. JMHO. But running is not good. a kennedy Nov 2022 #4
A sentence of 5 years probation for a murder SharonClark Nov 2022 #18
She was lucky? inthewind21 Nov 2022 #23
wow kcr Nov 2022 #30
She's worsening a bad situation--Iowa SUCKS politically. live love laugh Nov 2022 #5
Whelp. She just ruined and chance she had of a normal life. Takket Nov 2022 #6
A black female sex-traficing victim has no chance of a normal life in America today. nt Samrob Nov 2022 #14
Touche Takket Nov 2022 #16
5 years probation on a murder charge SharonClark Nov 2022 #19
How the HELL is "serving time" somewhere Probation? Bengus81 Nov 2022 #7
She agreed to it when she signed the plea bargain jimfields33 Nov 2022 #10
"What white person gets probation but then has to stay at a "center" until it's over?" Effete Snob Nov 2022 #15
Please explain how being required to live in SharonClark Nov 2022 #20
I'm pretty sure you have directed your question to the wrong person Effete Snob Nov 2022 #22
That's the ForgedCrank Nov 2022 #35
Bad move sarisataka Nov 2022 #8
She was a victim of sex trafficing. She is only 18 so it happened when she was younger. PurgedVoter Nov 2022 #11
Iowa didn't fail her. SharonClark Nov 2022 #21
WOW inthewind21 Nov 2022 #24
Except she didn't have to kill to escape Hugh_Lebowski Nov 2022 #28
"When she could've just left" kcr Nov 2022 #31
I don't believe she ever testified there was no way out of the dwelling Hugh_Lebowski Nov 2022 #32
If you see her, no you didn't. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2022 #13
Stupid move. She screwed herself and every person SharonClark Nov 2022 #17
Oh no! Nt XanaDUer2 Nov 2022 #25
Hard to know what was going through this young woman's mind. She was put through hell. jalan48 Nov 2022 #26
All of the comments here at this point. . . . h2ebits Nov 2022 #29
That is a good point, we don't really know what happened/why she left Hugh_Lebowski Nov 2022 #33
We also don't know what she went through. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2022 #34

MLAA

(19,745 posts)
1. If she was on probation, not facing prison and had enough money through go fund me to cover
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 12:32 PM
Nov 2022

her restitution and get set up with a home etc. I wonder why she ran? What am I missing?

h2ebits

(1,002 posts)
3. Run, run, run. . . .
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 12:35 PM
Nov 2022

What an absolute nightmare of a life this young woman is living. I genuinely hope that people will protect and take care of her. It is an absolute travesty of justice.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
9. She got probation for murder Which she pleaded guilty to
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 12:50 PM
Nov 2022

Now she’ll have to do the 20 years a hard time in jail. Plus whatever charges this brings. I think after probation she could have sued the city and probably got some money but now no way.

h2ebits

(1,002 posts)
12. Travesty of justice. . . .
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 01:13 PM
Nov 2022

She was being sex trafficked and killed her attacker. She is actually the victim here.

According to the article, this occurred when she was 15-years old!!! How long was she being treated like an animal before this happened? Who was selling her to men to be sexually abused? At what age did the abuse start?

Why did she walk away from what appears to us to be a safe space for her to heal and recover?

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
27. Actually if this is accurate it suggests the dead guy is not the trafficker
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 05:09 PM
Nov 2022

Last edited Mon Nov 7, 2022, 05:43 PM - Edit history (1)

"Lewis has said that she was trafficked against her will to Brooks for sex multiple times and stabbed him in a fit of rage"

Not saying it's okay to have sex with 15 year old's, but you don't know that Brooks knew she was only 15. He may've simply thought her a prostitute and not considered her age, thinking he's in a 'business transaction', and didn't know what she was going thru otherwise. He may have had no idea he was 'her attacker', IOW.

IIRC, she murdered this guy in his sleep, not to fight off a sexual attack in the moment.

5 years probation for murdering someone in their sleep is still pretty lenient, given our system of laws are not based on vigilantism.

If this said she murdered the actual trafficker rather than someone who could've been a 'john' essentially, then I'd think even the 5 years was too harsh, esp. for a 15 yo.

But in this case I think it's at least very possible she got a fair sentence, and either way, should've just served it as proscribed by the judge.

SharonClark

(10,497 posts)
18. A sentence of 5 years probation for a murder
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 03:56 PM
Nov 2022

charge? She was lucky the judge was empathetic. Now he’s not.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
14. A black female sex-traficing victim has no chance of a normal life in America today. nt
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 01:18 PM
Nov 2022

SharonClark

(10,497 posts)
19. 5 years probation on a murder charge
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 03:57 PM
Nov 2022

and $500,000+ to help her start a new life would go a long way.

Bengus81

(10,165 posts)
7. How the HELL is "serving time" somewhere Probation?
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 12:46 PM
Nov 2022

What white person gets probation but then has to stay at a "center" until it's over? The entire sentence she received smacks of racism.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
10. She agreed to it when she signed the plea bargain
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 12:52 PM
Nov 2022

I would imagine there’s plenty of white people on probation in this very same place.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
15. "What white person gets probation but then has to stay at a "center" until it's over?"
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 02:07 PM
Nov 2022


The sort of person who serves a probationary term in a halfway house or other facility is someone who has been ordered to do so for a variety of reasons, or the most common reason of HAVING NO OTHER PLACE TO LIVE.

Where would you prefer she do that?

SharonClark

(10,497 posts)
20. Please explain how being required to live in
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 04:11 PM
Nov 2022

a women’s shelter when one has confessed to murder and could have been sentence to 20 years in jail, racist?

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
22. I'm pretty sure you have directed your question to the wrong person
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 04:16 PM
Nov 2022

I don't see a problem with it.

I was responding to the person who apparently believes she should have returned to the three bedroom home she owns in the suburbs or some other imagined place conducive to getting on track for a normal life.

ForgedCrank

(3,096 posts)
35. That's the
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 08:27 PM
Nov 2022

part that confused me.
I always thought "probation" meant you got cut loose if you promised to be good, and checked in once a week with a probation officer (along with various other imposed rules).
Never heard of being confined while on probation so that's a new one for me.

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
8. Bad move
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 12:46 PM
Nov 2022

While it can easily be argued she shouldn't be there at all, escaping is not the way to correct a miscarriage of justice.

PurgedVoter

(2,715 posts)
11. She was a victim of sex trafficing. She is only 18 so it happened when she was younger.
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 01:11 PM
Nov 2022

She had to kill to escape. Then justice decided to punish her for that. I cannot guess who she trusts now. I cannot imagine, the nightmares and the things that might trigger her memories of abuse. If there was anyone with their own issues or a bully, or an unkind administrator, or an office worker with an attitude, it could be enough to make her decide to flee. I wouldn't be surprised if a place like that had all of that and probably worse.
Poor girl ran. Iowa failed her.

SharonClark

(10,497 posts)
21. Iowa didn't fail her.
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 04:14 PM
Nov 2022

She got a huge break from the judicial system.

Her parents, her family. her friends failed her.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
28. Except she didn't have to kill to escape
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 06:11 PM
Nov 2022

She stabbed a guy who was PASSED OUT ... 30 times.

When she could've just left.

That's the thing.

Had this happened mid-rape, as an act of self-defense, really good chance she'd have walked. But that's not what happened.

And the dead guy was basically a 'john', and her trafficker was someone she thought of as her boyfriend, who was putting her up, because she was a 15 yo runaway.

The two of them, it seems, were trying to make money to buy drugs and keep a roof over their heads, by means of her turning tricks.

Then she lost her shit one night because of the shittyness of her life and the people around her (including the client that she murdered, who allegedly gave her shots and weed, and raped her earlier).

Then she went straight home to the boyfriend she's alleged was trafficking her. No charges have been filed against this person, take that as you will.

I guess I can understand that rage, but at the same time ... the law doesn't allow for that kind of vigilante action.

5 years probation is not unreasonable in this situation, she really should've stayed where the court requires her to stay.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
32. I don't believe she ever testified there was no way out of the dwelling
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 06:38 PM
Nov 2022

nor that her only option to 'escape' it was to stab someone 30 times while they were passed out.

In the eyes of the LAW, yes, she could've just left. Could've called police and reported this whole situation. That's what people are supposed to do.

Instead, she immediately went back to the alleged trafficker's place after she killed the john, and they plotted out ways to hopefully keep her from being arrested.

I think you're letting your sense of empathy for the victim cloud your understanding about how things work, legally.

The fact that this was not actual act of self-defense, but rather one of a vigilante, is why she got 5 years probation, whereas in a literal act of real-time self-defense, she'd likely have walked.

SharonClark

(10,497 posts)
17. Stupid move. She screwed herself and every person
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 03:53 PM
Nov 2022

who was empathetic to her circumstances.
You go girl, indeed. Right to prison for 20 years.

h2ebits

(1,002 posts)
29. All of the comments here at this point. . . .
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 06:24 PM
Nov 2022

She walked away with the ankle bracelet on. I'm assuming from that; that the women's shelter was "home" and she was free to go about her business within permissible time frames.

Perhaps she was abducted, ankle bracelet removed, and murdered. Seems like she had a lot of money from "GoFundMe" to keep herself going. Her past living circumstances indicate that she was around unsavory people.

In my prior post, I was horrified at what had happened to her in the judicial system. She had to pay restitution?!?!? To Whom? Why? Etc, etc. "Rage against the machine" type comments.

My final comment in that post was that we didn't know why she had walked away and not returned.

This comment is to suggest that she may be lying dead in a ditch somewhere and, in fact, did not run away. Or she is being held against her will somewhere in an effort to extort her. The reality is that anything could have happened to her.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
33. That is a good point, we don't really know what happened/why she left
Mon Nov 7, 2022, 06:54 PM
Nov 2022

I really doubt, however, that the 'legal system' would've let an 18yo with a history of drug use, on probation, to have an open line to Hundreds of 1000's of $$$. It wouldn't be safe for her, for the exact reasons you (and I) just specified, and also it would create a flight risk.

If I was going to guess ... based on probabilities ... why she bailed that joint?

It was because she wanted to go party, and that was more important to her in the moment.

I could totally be wrong and you could be right, she was abducted and is being extorted.

But if you gave me 50/50 odds, I'd go with my speculation over yours.

Hopefully it's neither, and something way more innocuous, that she can explain and will be forgiven for by the legal system.

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