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bigtree

(94,269 posts)
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 10:29 AM Nov 2022

"Why, why ... Please, I don't understand."

Ohio man fatally shoots neighbor ‘because he thought he was a Democrat’

___His father is in the backyard and he is not breathing, the son says.

The suspect, “just walked back on to his property,” he tells the dispatcher.

According to the son, the neighbor “has come over multiple times making statements. He’s insane.”

The victim’s wife tells the dispatcher they were cutting grass and working in the yard when she came inside to let the dog out. That’s when she said she heard gunshots.

“I look in the backyard and that man is walking away from my husband and my husband is on the ground,” the woman says “He has come over like four times confronting my husband because he thought he was a Democrat, Why, why … Please, I don’t understand.”

https://www.journal-news.com/news/man-charged-with-murder-in-shooting-death-of-neighbor-outside-butler-county-home/XALOERKDY5C5DEPAGRIWIJUBLY/

...I'm personally not unfamiliar with being the target of unfathomable hatred.

It is all so very hard to understand.
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"Why, why ... Please, I don't understand." (Original Post) bigtree Nov 2022 OP
The trigger man is simply doing what he's been told to do gratuitous Nov 2022 #1
no it won't, barbtries Nov 2022 #20
Operation Mindcrime Rob in Htown Nov 2022 #61
and it might be from a local rw radio station that needs to get sued certainot Nov 2022 #67
When will it stop? Hope22 Nov 2022 #2
I was thinking the same thing. donte Nov 2022 #39
This! n/t Hope22 Nov 2022 #64
"he thought he was a Democrat" GenXer47 Nov 2022 #3
Let's hope it isn't plimsoll Nov 2022 #14
I suspect that there will be a few members of that "militia" that will be greatly surprised Otto_Harper Nov 2022 #50
He thought wrong, by the way...victim appears to have been a registered Republican. lostnfound Nov 2022 #73
That is absolutely horrifying PatSeg Nov 2022 #4
He thought? MiHale Nov 2022 #5
More Meth pretty please! Pic of deranged murderer MagickMuffin Nov 2022 #6
Listening to the voices in his head n/t sarge43 Nov 2022 #7
And the voices at Fox, and Newsmax, and OAN, and QAnon, and InfoWars and . . . hatrack Nov 2022 #8
EXACTLY. Decades of brain-washing and five years of seditious lies from a bloated orange anus. nt Evolve Dammit Nov 2022 #52
exactly right, you can't blame it all on mental illness SouthernDem4ever Nov 2022 #76
Meth can make one very paranoid and delusional MagickMuffin Nov 2022 #10
Yes it can tazkcmo Nov 2022 #29
As can joining the Fox News / MAGA / Republican cult. NullTuples Nov 2022 #48
Have a very, very long and boring life inside, murderous terrorist asshole. Justice matters. Nov 2022 #12
Appears jaundiced. Liver failure? Or trick if the light? AllyCat Nov 2022 #13
The whites of his eyes are clear. Possibly the lighting. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Nov 2022 #71
But if you look at the pupils there is no one there. True Blue American Nov 2022 #74
Mugshot. plimsoll Nov 2022 #17
Looks like my neighbors grown son who tested positive for meth Emile Nov 2022 #24
That guy was looking for an excuse to kill iemanja Nov 2022 #44
Do meth addicts who've lost reality shave regularly & have good skin? NullTuples Nov 2022 #49
Agreed. Old Crow Nov 2022 #65
This guy isnt a meth head. I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2022 #68
That was my first thought as well. Haggis 4 Breakfast Nov 2022 #60
JESUS, sick sobl Emile Nov 2022 #9
I got nothin. Moving to another country looks more appealing every day. twodogsbarking Nov 2022 #11
Come on down. Panama, Costa Rica are great. Nt childfreebychoice Nov 2022 #15
Thanks. twodogsbarking Nov 2022 #27
I have three friends who moved to Panama and love it. Patterson Nov 2022 #42
thank you fox news barbtries Nov 2022 #16
Me too and it is. Evolve Dammit Nov 2022 #53
Moot issue, but I wonder if they ever reported him to police for childfreebychoice Nov 2022 #18
But let's just keep giving out guns like candy. Fla Dem Nov 2022 #19
reQublicOns will not be happy until everybody is carrying KS Toronado Nov 2022 #37
That is literally a scene from a movie. Haggis 4 Breakfast Nov 2022 #62
The GOP loves this and wants more and more. hadEnuf Nov 2022 #40
... progressoid Nov 2022 #21
How does a cold-blooded murderer even get bail?? PaulRevere08 Nov 2022 #22
I don't know. sakabatou Nov 2022 #23
By being white and male. That's how. nt Maru Kitteh Nov 2022 #45
We all must vote today tiredtoo Nov 2022 #25
Wish I didn't have to say this, but I hope dems are armed up good. judesedit Nov 2022 #26
I have spent years hearing the Conservofascist mantra that Otto_Harper Nov 2022 #51
Is Kari Lake going to joke about this too? StarryNite Nov 2022 #28
Hammurabi. That is all. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Nov 2022 #30
WTF ?!?!?! FAUX NEWS is driving their viewers insane.. That, I understand. n/t TeamProg Nov 2022 #31
I completely understand this. So sad Horse with no Name Nov 2022 #32
Maybe... Evolve Dammit Nov 2022 #54
yet another case of someone being god , judge , joury and executioner AllaN01Bear Nov 2022 #33
Shithole Country nt SoCalDavidS Nov 2022 #34
Trump, activating more stochastic terrorists every day. LudwigPastorius Nov 2022 #35
Horrible!!! Beacool Nov 2022 #36
Republicans have declared open season on Democrats dlk Nov 2022 #38
FOX NEWS. BComplex Nov 2022 #41
I'm in NW FL. I've been accosted for carrying a "Science Doesn't Care What You Believe" tote r/o SoBlueInFL Nov 2022 #43
the man with the gun was programmed to do this . IMO republianmushroom Nov 2022 #46
Getting people to believe bullshit is how propaganda works... czarjak Nov 2022 #47
It is called right wing political terrorism! The Jungle 1 Nov 2022 #55
If convicted death penalty! I am tired of hearing this bs GreenWave Nov 2022 #56
Lock him up! raccoon Nov 2022 #57
or what the GOP calls collateral damage. IcyPeas Nov 2022 #58
And that's why I have a conceal carry permit. Missn-Hitch Nov 2022 #59
Why in God's name did the judge set a bond?! Old Crow Nov 2022 #63
Right? It's infuriating. nt SunSeeker Nov 2022 #70
It has literally gotten that SICK! liberal N proud Nov 2022 #66
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Nov 2022 #69
Any charges for his dad helping him escape? markodochartaigh Nov 2022 #72
Radicalized by the hateful GOP rizlaplus Nov 2022 #75

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
1. The trigger man is simply doing what he's been told to do
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 10:32 AM
Nov 2022

But that is not an angle to this story that will be reported.

barbtries

(31,308 posts)
20. no it won't,
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 11:38 AM
Nov 2022

in fact the article states that the murder was prompted by a "suspected political affiliation." Readers wouldn't even know that it was because the killer is a RWNJ if it wasn't for the direct quote by the wife included in the story.

Rob in Htown

(16 posts)
61. Operation Mindcrime
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 07:53 PM
Nov 2022

"...here's a gun, take it home wait by the phone. We'll send someone over to bring you what you need. You're a one man death machine; make this city bleed."

Hope22

(4,746 posts)
2. When will it stop?
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 10:36 AM
Nov 2022

Interesting that the police could arrest him without killing him. I wish everyone got the same consideration.

 

donte

(41 posts)
39. I was thinking the same thing.
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 12:55 PM
Nov 2022

How do think the police would have reacted if it was a black man striking Paul Pelosi in the head with a hammer? Lethal force for sure!

plimsoll

(1,690 posts)
14. Let's hope it isn't
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 11:30 AM
Nov 2022

If it is the well organized militia we must expect more of this. The GOP has been tolerating eliminationist rhetoric against liberals, democrats, LGBTQ people/non-Christians for the past 2 decades. This may be the moment they realize that the verbal threats aren't working anymore and they'll have to start following through.

The offer you can't refuse needs an example of what refusal looks like.

Otto_Harper

(822 posts)
50. I suspect that there will be a few members of that "militia" that will be greatly surprised
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 04:32 PM
Nov 2022

when they learn that their targets of elimination are neither as passive as they expect, and may well be better equipped, both in hardware and training to deal with them, as needed. For some, it may be their last great surprise.

lostnfound

(17,520 posts)
73. He thought wrong, by the way...victim appears to have been a registered Republican.
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 02:03 AM
Nov 2022

Only 43 years old which means his kids are likely young adults at most.
The poor family.

Evolve Dammit

(21,777 posts)
52. EXACTLY. Decades of brain-washing and five years of seditious lies from a bloated orange anus. nt
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 04:45 PM
Nov 2022

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
76. exactly right, you can't blame it all on mental illness
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 09:23 AM
Nov 2022

just like you can't blame a gun for being easily acquired and someone using it

MagickMuffin

(18,318 posts)
10. Meth can make one very paranoid and delusional
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 11:05 AM
Nov 2022


Ran into an acquaintance once who was addicted to meth. He heard voices, thought the feds were always watching him. It was sad to see his decline. He eventually was killed by the industry. Someone beat him to death.

Sad way to die.


tazkcmo

(7,419 posts)
29. Yes it can
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 12:20 PM
Nov 2022

I went through this with my son who had paranoid delusions very often. To him it was reality. He's recovered and a contributing member of society again now but it was pretty damn scary before he hit rock bottom.

Justice matters.

(9,788 posts)
12. Have a very, very long and boring life inside, murderous terrorist asshole.
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 11:10 AM
Nov 2022

Hope your cellmates are leaning left, neo-nazi prick!

AllyCat

(18,846 posts)
13. Appears jaundiced. Liver failure? Or trick if the light?
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 11:19 AM
Nov 2022

Mentally deranged. Hope he stays the rest of his life in a little cell.

plimsoll

(1,690 posts)
17. Mugshot.
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 11:35 AM
Nov 2022

Most people look pretty crappy in them. I suspect that's why most white collar criminals are allowed to turn themselves in and part of Rudy's ploy for the perp walk. If the police get a chance to cuff and push them into a patrol car their going to look disheveled and probably a little dangerous. A good lawyer will get this guy a suit, and a non-edgy haircut and he'll be just fine looking.

Emile

(42,293 posts)
24. Looks like my neighbors grown son who tested positive for meth
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 11:40 AM
Nov 2022

at our local high school where he was a part time wrestling coach.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
49. Do meth addicts who've lost reality shave regularly & have good skin?
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 04:02 PM
Nov 2022

My money is on, "This is what joining QAnon & MAGA does to you. Any questions?"

Old Crow

(2,268 posts)
65. Agreed.
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 08:54 PM
Nov 2022

I think other commenters on this thread are making a big mistake in dismissing this as an attack by a meth addict or crazy person. Like you, I would guess this is a person who's on the far-right spectrum inhabited by perhaps as much as 35% of U.S. society today.

For one thing: His eyes look very focused. He isn't out of it. He was on a mission.

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,369 posts)
68. This guy isnt a meth head.
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 11:03 PM
Nov 2022

He is a sociopath that was itching to kill a Dem. He got off on it too I bet.
1 in 4 people in america are on the spectrum of narcissist/ sociopath.

That alone explains why there are so many. Dangerous rwnj's

childfreebychoice

(476 posts)
15. Come on down. Panama, Costa Rica are great. Nt
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 11:32 AM
Nov 2022

Have small family unit me, two bros, two nieces one nephew. None live in amerikkka. All are childfree by choice. Hubby has no relatives, so move was easy. I am studying to become Panamanian citizen. One friend moved to Thailand, one to Vietnam, one to Belize, and two to ghana

barbtries

(31,308 posts)
16. thank you fox news
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 11:32 AM
Nov 2022

thank you mitch mcconnell
thank you rush limbaugh and all your hate talk heirs
thank you corporate media with your fucking both sides bullshit
thank you trump and your pathetic cult

i hate republicans. this is heartbreaking.

childfreebychoice

(476 posts)
18. Moot issue, but I wonder if they ever reported him to police for
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 11:36 AM
Nov 2022

Harassment. Everyday, becomes easier to understand why the age old tradition of political bumper stickers, and yard signs, are going the way of the whigs/know nothing parties

Fla Dem

(27,633 posts)
19. But let's just keep giving out guns like candy.
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 11:36 AM
Nov 2022

Effective June 13, 2022, Ohio Senate Bill (S.B.) No. 215, which Governor Mike DeWine has already signed into law, will permit a "qualifying adult" to legally carry, possess, or conceal a handgun without a license, background check, or training requirements

Jun 13, 2022

https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/tools-and-samples/exreq/pages/details.aspx?erid=1182#:~:text=Effective%20June%2013%2C%202022%2C%20Ohio,background%20check%2C%20or%20training%20requirements.

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
37. reQublicOns will not be happy until everybody is carrying
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 12:51 PM
Nov 2022

And that'll include football players on the field, hope none ever "fear for their life"

Haggis 4 Breakfast

(1,505 posts)
62. That is literally a scene from a movie.
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 07:58 PM
Nov 2022

Starring Bruce Willis and Damon Wayans, called "The Last Boy Scout." (1991) In the opening, a football player walks out onto the field and shoots opposing team members then turns the gun on himself.

I remember thinking how improbable that was, but that was 22 years ago.

hadEnuf

(3,616 posts)
40. The GOP loves this and wants more and more.
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 12:56 PM
Nov 2022

We are going to be forced into being ready to defend ourselves or this will keep happening.

I'm not trying to talk tough but that asshole never should have made it across the yard.

Otto_Harper

(822 posts)
51. I have spent years hearing the Conservofascist mantra that
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 04:37 PM
Nov 2022

Libs don't have guns.
Works for me. Just saying.

Horse with no Name

(34,239 posts)
32. I completely understand this. So sad
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 12:23 PM
Nov 2022

I hope Garland is working to give us an announcement tomorrow.

Beacool

(30,518 posts)
36. Horrible!!!
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 12:39 PM
Nov 2022

I blame Trump and the rest of the nut jobs that he and the GOP have enabled. They have spent years spreading hate and persuading their followers that the 2020 election was "stolen". Their toxicity has pushed already mentally unstable people to violence.

My condolences to the victim's family. May he rest in peace.


dlk

(13,248 posts)
38. Republicans have declared open season on Democrats
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 12:54 PM
Nov 2022

And the mainstream media is complicit. I fear this won’t be an isolated incident.

SoBlueInFL

(191 posts)
43. I'm in NW FL. I've been accosted for carrying a "Science Doesn't Care What You Believe" tote r/o
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 01:27 PM
Nov 2022

and for wearing my Rachel Maddow t-shirt. We no longer put up political signs, wouldn't dare put bumper stickers on our car, and I am careful where I carry that tote and wear that t-shirt. We also drive with the assumption that the *sshole drivers are Rep. and packing. One of my husband's former work associates was arrested for brandishing a gun during a road rage incident more than two decades ago. People around here were nuts long before the Trump/MAGA madness.

These nuts are totally willing to shoot their perceived enemies.

czarjak

(13,639 posts)
47. Getting people to believe bullshit is how propaganda works...
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 03:50 PM
Nov 2022

Correct me if I'm wrong. Following Real Freaks isn't helpful either. Open Season was declared in 2016, BTW.

GreenWave

(12,641 posts)
56. If convicted death penalty! I am tired of hearing this bs
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 05:23 PM
Nov 2022

But he's a Caucasian. Let's all hear his story while we focus on bad things the deceased did to deflect the story.

They must face consequences for being fascists.

Old Crow

(2,268 posts)
63. Why in God's name did the judge set a bond?!
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 08:21 PM
Nov 2022

This man should NEVER be released back into society pending his court appearance. WTF?!

Editing to add the following:

In case any readers are unaware, you can purchase a surety bond for 10% of the full bond set by the judge -- meaning if Mr. Combs can come up with $95K, he's out of jail. All it would take is for some far-right website or talk radio show to establish a GoFundMe for this "patriot" and that sum would be raised in no time.

AGAIN: WTF is the judge thinking?!

markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
72. Any charges for his dad helping him escape?
Tue Nov 8, 2022, 11:18 PM
Nov 2022

"Combs was taken into custody in a Jeep at the Ohio 126 West of Chapel Road. Both Combs and his father were in the vehicle."

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