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Why so much glee here?? It looks like we're going to lose the senate. POSSIBLY not, but PROBABLY. n (Original Post) LAS14 Nov 2022 OP
We beat expectations and have some hope. Thanks for shitting on that, though. Wingus Dingus Nov 2022 #1
Leave it to Debbie Downers piss on everything. LW1977 Nov 2022 #4
Someone had to do it wryter2000 Nov 2022 #27
TY! I'm seeing this for the first time Cha Nov 2022 #50
I don't understand it either! 50 Shades Of Blue Nov 2022 #2
Far more likely we keep it BeyondGeography Nov 2022 #3
drat, I thought we had Nevada, must have read incorrectly somewhere.. msfiddlestix Nov 2022 #8
Ralston thinks we can win it wryter2000 Nov 2022 #28
In NV inthewind21 Nov 2022 #43
Thanks wryter2000 Nov 2022 #45
oh great news. thanks! msfiddlestix Nov 2022 #46
I don't really see how they win both wryter2000 Nov 2022 #30
Why do you think we're going to lose the Senate? FakeNoose Nov 2022 #5
Wisconsin and Nevada are pink on the Google map with way over 90% reporting. nt LAS14 Nov 2022 #9
We can lose Nevada and Wisconsin as long as we keep GA and AZ. Elessar Zappa Nov 2022 #15
Depends on where the outstanding vote is left in Arizona, Wisconsin and Nevada lees1975 Nov 2022 #25
Arizona is looking iffy. I think we have a better chance in NV Marius25 Nov 2022 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author wryter2000 Nov 2022 #32
Sure, the odds favor us keeping the Senate, and perhaps even getting 51 seats, but there are still JohnSJ Nov 2022 #11
I'm glad it's CA wryter2000 Nov 2022 #33
Yes JohnSJ Nov 2022 #34
I agree. It is far from over, and probably will take days to find out. That being said, Warnock ha JohnSJ Nov 2022 #6
Where do you see that? mcar Nov 2022 #7
https://www.google.com/search?qgoogle+election+results&oqgoogle+election+results&aqschrome..69i57 LAS14 Nov 2022 #10
Well no wonder... littlemissmartypants Nov 2022 #19
You're suggesting reporting fraud? nt LAS14 Nov 2022 #36
Not suggesting anything. littlemissmartypants Nov 2022 #47
wrong jcgoldie Nov 2022 #12
My strongest reason for hope is even if GOP manages to snag NV and AZ both (unlikely but possible) Hugh_Lebowski Nov 2022 #18
yeah Walker underperformed Kemp by 5 points jcgoldie Nov 2022 #21
I had forgotten wryter2000 Nov 2022 #35
Lolololololol obamanut2012 Nov 2022 #13
???- check your math sarisataka Nov 2022 #14
By any metric things went well Sympthsical Nov 2022 #16
I'm happy that Dems bucked historical trends Beausoleil Nov 2022 #17
No, you've got it backwards. We will PROBABLY keep the senate (but possibly not) fishwax Nov 2022 #20
Also Warnock went into that runoff having been trailing in the General Hugh_Lebowski Nov 2022 #22
great point! I feel really good about Warnock's chances :) fishwax Nov 2022 #24
Wisconsin is also looking good for us... lees1975 Nov 2022 #26
Awesome! ON WISCONSIN! fishwax Nov 2022 #40
I know, I am concerned the pukes will eek out both House and Senate majority. honest.abe Nov 2022 #23
Uh no, Predictit has us 83% to keep the Senate - link Alhena Nov 2022 #29
Meh BannonsLiver Nov 2022 #31
Good on you, BL.. this is funny Cha Nov 2022 #53
Having lived through many a midterms were the D's got a shellacking Raftergirl Nov 2022 #38
I think Kelly and Warnock holding off Walker in the run-off will prevent that. nt Tommy Carcetti Nov 2022 #39
So mentioning NO Senate seats and no reasoning puts a crimp in your argument. brooklynite Nov 2022 #41
No it doesn't look like we lose the Senate. Demsrule86 Nov 2022 #42
I'm sorry you're disappointed again. MineralMan Nov 2022 #44
Post removed Post removed Nov 2022 #49
Because we didn't lose the senate? MineralMan Nov 2022 #48
Well, this OP didn't age well Wednesdays Nov 2022 #51
Fortunately, early results were not the final results!!! LeftInTX Nov 2022 #52

Cha

(297,733 posts)
50. TY! I'm seeing this for the first time
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 07:48 PM
Nov 2022

just now and I can't believe it!

WTAF!! Talk about Not knowing what's happening!

msfiddlestix

(7,286 posts)
8. drat, I thought we had Nevada, must have read incorrectly somewhere..
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 11:19 AM
Nov 2022

my vision issues plays tricks on my eyes.

wryter2000

(46,082 posts)
28. Ralston thinks we can win it
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 12:04 PM
Nov 2022

There are lots of mail-in ballots coming from a blue part of the state. Don't give up hope yet.

With Fetterman's win, it seems to me more likely than not that we'll keep our majority. I think Warnock will win the run-off, as he did the last time.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
43. In NV
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 12:54 PM
Nov 2022

Mail in ballots have to be postmarked by 11/08 and received by 11/12 so there will be ballots showing up through this Saturday. There won't be a final for NV until all of that is counted. Watch Washoe (Reno) and Clark (Vegas) And to all you rural MAGA asshats that were convinced to NOT use mail in and ONLY vote on election day, I have one question. How'd you yahoos enjoy that snow storm that blew in?

wryter2000

(46,082 posts)
45. Thanks
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 01:28 PM
Nov 2022

I didn't know that. I have known some things can go on for days. If we have to have GA to keep our majority, we won't know for weeks. But that turned out good last time.

wryter2000

(46,082 posts)
30. I don't really see how they win both
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 12:06 PM
Nov 2022

I guess I'll go back to making calls in GA. It worked for the run-offs last time. Plus, Stacey Abrams isn't going anywhere. She'll be on top of it.

FakeNoose

(32,777 posts)
5. Why do you think we're going to lose the Senate?
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 11:18 AM
Nov 2022

If the number remains 50-50 then we're in control. As soon as Mark Kelly and Raphael Warnock are announced winners to retain their seats, it's 50-50 just like before.

Lighten up, don't be such a sour-puss.

Elessar Zappa

(14,077 posts)
15. We can lose Nevada and Wisconsin as long as we keep GA and AZ.
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 11:25 AM
Nov 2022

We have an excellent chance at retaining the Senate.

lees1975

(3,879 posts)
25. Depends on where the outstanding vote is left in Arizona, Wisconsin and Nevada
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 11:46 AM
Nov 2022

and the last I heard, it was good news. Kelly's lead in Arizona is likely safe, over 100,000 votes with only mail-in ballots left to count and only from Maricopa County, which he carried by six. Nevada votes to count are in Clark and Washoe, heavily Democratic and the exit polls there show heavier than expected Latino turnout and support for Cortez-Masto, and still lots to count there. In Georgia, Warnock needs just 8/10ths of a percent to avoid a runoff and most of the remaining votes to count are coming from the collar counties around Atlanta where he won 2-1. In Wisconsin, Barnes needs to gain about 28,000 votes out of about 180,000 left to count, mostly from Milwaukee County where he won 2-1. So it is conceivable that Democrats will come in at 51-49, or perhaps 52-48.

After last night, and seeing the data that's come in, I'm not so sure that we won't still have a slim margin in the House.

Response to LAS14 (Reply #9)

JohnSJ

(92,422 posts)
11. Sure, the odds favor us keeping the Senate, and perhaps even getting 51 seats, but there are still
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 11:21 AM
Nov 2022

elections in California, that could very well determine if we retain the House

wryter2000

(46,082 posts)
33. I'm glad it's CA
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 12:08 PM
Nov 2022

We definitely have very red areas, but we're a blue state. If we had to depend on TX, I'd give up.

JohnSJ

(92,422 posts)
6. I agree. It is far from over, and probably will take days to find out. That being said, Warnock ha
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 11:18 AM
Nov 2022

a chance to pull this out without going for a runoff, and Nevada is still very much in the game.

There are still a lot of House races to be decided in California that can very well determine the House, and if we are able to win Nevada, that will take a lot of pressure off, but we won't find out for a few days.

If we lose both Houses, it will be a disaster, even if it is close.

If we are able to retain at least the Senate, we still can appoint judges, but without the House, the next two years will not be pretty


LAS14

(13,783 posts)
10. https://www.google.com/search?qgoogle+election+results&oqgoogle+election+results&aqschrome..69i57
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 11:21 AM
Nov 2022

littlemissmartypants

(22,822 posts)
47. Not suggesting anything.
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 09:04 PM
Nov 2022

Just making an observation.

Posting a link in a reply title box leads directly to nonsense. The link can't be followed therefore doesn't help a bit and neither proves or disproves a hypothesis.

So ANY assumptions based on "nonsense" are in themselves, nonsensical at worst and unhelpful at best.

That's it.



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jcgoldie

(11,651 posts)
12. wrong
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 11:22 AM
Nov 2022

There's a reason predictit is sitting at 81 cents for democrats to control the senate. GOP needs 2 of NV, AZ, and GA to flip the senate and they are unlikely to win any of those races.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
18. My strongest reason for hope is even if GOP manages to snag NV and AZ both (unlikely but possible)
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 11:33 AM
Nov 2022

And it goes to runoff in GA, well ... that's the same basic situation as 2020, where we need a GA runoff to have Senate control. And he did well then, though he was BEHIND in the original election back then.

WI is also not called yet.

I feel good about our chances, though we could end up on pins and needles for a couple months.

jcgoldie

(11,651 posts)
21. yeah Walker underperformed Kemp by 5 points
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 11:36 AM
Nov 2022

How many of those GOP voters who held their nose and picked him because they will never vote for a democrat will make a trip to the polls a 2nd time in a month to support him? Democrats turned out in the special election 2 years ago for Warnock and will again.

sarisataka

(18,779 posts)
14. ???- check your math
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 11:23 AM
Nov 2022

With VP Harris a tie is the same as a win for Democrats. Currently with Dems at +1 Senate seat we are not POSSIBLY but PROBABLY going to keep the Senate.

Sympthsical

(9,121 posts)
16. By any metric things went well
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 11:29 AM
Nov 2022

No, it wasn't the staggering "Super Secret Dobbs Wave!" some quarters were shouting. But given the economy and a midterm, it was certainly not the blow out one would expect (and I do think that's what Dobbs did).

I'm good with things this morning. It all landed where I thought it would. Neither elated nor despairing.

More of a kind of chilled contentment.

Beausoleil

(2,845 posts)
17. I'm happy that Dems bucked historical trends
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 11:31 AM
Nov 2022

Did not give up 60 seats (or 40, or 20) in the House.
Did not give up 4-5 Senate seats.
Neither House or Senate has been taken over yet.
Repubs did not run the table on Governerships,
And at least two State Houses flipped.

All this with Biden in the 40s, inflation crushing us like bugs, gas prices, crime, crime, crime, etc.

What's not to be happy about!

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
20. No, you've got it backwards. We will PROBABLY keep the senate (but possibly not)
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 11:35 AM
Nov 2022

There is a decent chance that we come back in the Nevada Senate race, which (barring a highly-unlikely development in Arizona) would give us 50 senators, just as we have now, even with Georgia still undecided.

If we can't close the gap in Nevada, then the Georgia runoff will be for Senate control, just as it was in January 2021 when Warnock won the first time. That will be a hard fought battle, and if it is for control of the Senate then the GOP will pour all their resources into it. But they'd be doing it with a horrible candidate, and without Kemp voters to buoy him.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
22. Also Warnock went into that runoff having been trailing in the General
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 11:40 AM
Nov 2022

This time he'd be going into having won it, %-wise.

Also reason for optimism.

lees1975

(3,879 posts)
26. Wisconsin is also looking good for us...
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 11:48 AM
Nov 2022

Most of those more than 100,000 votes left to count are from Milwaukee County.

honest.abe

(8,685 posts)
23. I know, I am concerned the pukes will eek out both House and Senate majority.
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 11:42 AM
Nov 2022

However, I think its also quite possible we eek out both House and Senate majority.

We did well and better than expected but we are on razors edge of Rethug control of both chambers which would be a disaster for the next 2 years. However, it does seems likely we will retain Senate control. All we need is either CCM or Warnock to win.

BannonsLiver

(16,470 posts)
31. Meh
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 12:07 PM
Nov 2022

Maybe because some people here have a better understanding of the situation (and politics) than others. Will leave it at that.

Cha

(297,733 posts)
53. Good on you, BL.. this is funny
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 08:01 PM
Nov 2022

reading this on Monday the 14th!

I lit candles and chanted mantras to Save Democracy.. it Worked!

.. Not trying to step on anyone's Joy.. that's just mean.

💙

Raftergirl

(1,294 posts)
38. Having lived through many a midterms were the D's got a shellacking
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 12:22 PM
Nov 2022

this is a very good outcome.

Also, Joe has the power of the veto so none of the nonsense the R’s will pull will go anywhere.

brooklynite

(94,745 posts)
41. So mentioning NO Senate seats and no reasoning puts a crimp in your argument.
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 12:42 PM
Nov 2022

However let me do your work for you. You think that Cortez-Masto is behind and will lose (knowing nothing about where the remaking votes are) and that Warnock has to go to a runoff and will there lose because…why?

MineralMan

(146,333 posts)
44. I'm sorry you're disappointed again.
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 01:10 PM
Nov 2022

There was no "Red Wave." That makes me gleeful.

In my state of Minnesota, Democrats (DFL) won every statewide elected office and regained control of both legislative houses. If you don't understand how important that is, I'm afraid I can't help you further.

It is time to drop the doom and gloom and look at what has been accomplished, despite the naysaying of so many. We held our own, and made advances, despite all of that crap.

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