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kirby

(4,535 posts)
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 12:08 PM Nov 2022

When will Dems start...

To seriously and respectfully address Immigration reform and fairness? Stop ignoring the issue...you will continue to slide with Latino/Latina voters.

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When will Dems start... (Original Post) kirby Nov 2022 OP
Agreed. Claustrum Nov 2022 #1
REALLY THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Nov 2022 #3
What do you want? DURHAM D Nov 2022 #2
The last response you got was vintage magat. GreenWave Nov 2022 #4
Democrats had a plan gab13by13 Nov 2022 #5
10 years ago.... kirby Nov 2022 #7
The last I saw AZ voters passed Prop 308 which is an in-state college tuition benefit for in2herbs Nov 2022 #6
You lost me at "Latinx" brooklynite Nov 2022 #8
+1 TheRealNorth Nov 2022 #9
True... kirby Nov 2022 #10
They passed immigration bills last year awesomerwb1 Nov 2022 #11
By the way, I agree with some of the posters awesomerwb1 Nov 2022 #12
When they have the votes and the political outrage to kill the filibuster. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2022 #13
Seriously? mcar Nov 2022 #14
Problem is, we've lost that. GOP is telling second generation Hispanic immigrants haele Nov 2022 #15

Claustrum

(5,060 posts)
1. Agreed.
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 12:10 PM
Nov 2022

As a first generation immigrant, I care about immigration reform and legal immigrations. Letting republicans define whatever immigration means (negatively) is a losing position.

DURHAM D

(33,090 posts)
2. What do you want?
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 12:10 PM
Nov 2022

I have Latinx family members. They are anti-immigration. PERIOD

One actually said a few years ago - "I got mine and fuck them!"

gab13by13

(32,762 posts)
5. Democrats had a plan
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 12:17 PM
Nov 2022

the freaking Senate passed it but John Boehner refused to bring it to the House floor where it would have passed,

But yeah, let's blame Democrats.

in2herbs

(4,531 posts)
6. The last I saw AZ voters passed Prop 308 which is an in-state college tuition benefit for
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 12:18 PM
Nov 2022

those who have been here but are shut out of higher education because of racist white pigs.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
8. You lost me at "Latinx"
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 12:20 PM
Nov 2022

…and probably Latino voters as well. Immigration reform is not a driving issue among a majority of Latino voters, and “Latinx” is the kind of identity politics that pushes older voters away.

TheRealNorth

(9,647 posts)
9. +1
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 12:25 PM
Nov 2022

Even the use of "Latinx" turns off a lot of Hispanic/Latino voters. Surprised that there are still people using it today.

kirby

(4,535 posts)
10. True...
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 12:30 PM
Nov 2022

I was going to type Latino/Latina, but was on my tablet and took a shortcut. But I agree...most Latino/Latina do not associate / appreciate the term. On my desktop now, so I edited it.

awesomerwb1

(5,151 posts)
11. They passed immigration bills last year
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 12:32 PM
Nov 2022

The senate did not bring them up for a vote. The parlaSHITarian also shot down a couple efforts to pass it under reconciliation.

Immigration reform might never happen. Maybe in 20 years if we still have a country by then.

My humble suggestion: start grooming good young latin candidates in FL and other states.

Although Qpublicans will never stop talking about their best talking point, the border, get need to get more creative and have a much larger presence in Central American countries. Invest money there before they go in the China column (China is trying VERY hard).




awesomerwb1

(5,151 posts)
12. By the way, I agree with some of the posters
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 12:34 PM
Nov 2022

Latinx is not a popular thing with a lot of younger latin voters.

mcar

(46,354 posts)
14. Seriously?
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 12:40 PM
Nov 2022

Democrats have been pushing immigration reform for decades. Republicans always block it.

Do you really think Ds did poorly in SFL among Hispanic voters because of that?

haele

(15,593 posts)
15. Problem is, we've lost that. GOP is telling second generation Hispanic immigrants
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 01:11 PM
Nov 2022

That they're real Americans like White folks are and that these current immigrants are cheaters and gang members for decades, through lies that their Chambers of Commerce and Community "leadership" peer groups push about crime, spanish-speaking radio and frankly, popular media.
They have been poisoning the minds of Hispanic communities by picking "winners" and criminalizing "losers". By constantly telling the winners that even though your Abueles, your Tios and Tias came over on a Braceros program and barely speak English, that Hispanic culture keeps you poor and all of Central America is a Narco-state that is going to steal your hard earned stuff, even though they still have relatives on the other side of the border who are living in relative peace and prosperity.
GOP -and by extension, US Evangelicalism - has been portraying Mexican Culture as weak and impoverishing, anf Liberal policies as holding individuals back for, again, decades.
And it is working, as second/third generation Hispanics are increasingly viewing immigrants and asylum seekers as breaking the law trying to get to the US, even though their own parents or grandparents came across the border same way for the same reasons.
Dems lost immigration reform in the 2000's when it didn't seem important.

Haele

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