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usonian

(9,898 posts)
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 06:36 PM Nov 2022

California massively rejects sports betting. (Adding a data point or two)

Both propositions lost by over 70/30 margins.
A little history of corruption in sports may (IMO) have had something to do with this.
Read about Tim Donaghy if you weren’t aware of NBA game fixing by referees.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25980368/how-former-ref-tim-donaghy-conspired-fix-nba-games

Sports talk people (who are heavily sponsored by sports wagering “advisors” ) are pretty livid.

Time for Tom Tolbert, who spends a great deal of air time discussing “the spread” (And I don’t mean mayonnaise) and what’s “got value”. Oh yes, “gambling good”

He says that people were afraid that CA would turn into Biff Tannen’s Pleasure Palace on every block. No, Tom. You’ll have to go to Reno or LasVegas to indulge your habit.

As quickly as the radio went on, it goes off!

The thing that intrigued me was that two cards showed up in my mailbox. One against prop 26 and the other against prop 27. It sure looks like each proponent spent a fortune ($571 million!) running down the other, and they were both successful!

Just an observation. I’d like to see a team named “The Spread” so that announcers can say: “So and so team beat The Spread” and confuse gamblers.

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California massively rejects sports betting. (Adding a data point or two) (Original Post) usonian Nov 2022 OP
Legal betting Zeitghost Nov 2022 #1
Turning every cell phone into a microtransaction betting device is probably a bad idea. Initech Nov 2022 #2
So you support illegal gambling and the business of bookmakers ZonkerHarris Nov 2022 #12
No I don't. Initech Nov 2022 #15
Everyone who voted against these props made the bookies happy. Those apps are in business ZonkerHarris Nov 2022 #16
I think I need to do more research on this subject. Initech Nov 2022 #17
There's nothing like supporting bookies and black markets. Better to have no regulations no taxes ZonkerHarris Nov 2022 #3
Those who live outside of CA would scarcely believe the flood of advertising Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #4
I haven't seen or heard any Zeitghost Nov 2022 #5
Seeing the ballot was the first time I'd even heard of the measures Sympthsical Nov 2022 #8
It was crazy! And I believe they started the ads in AUGUST! beaglelover Nov 2022 #6
It was probably similar to flood of ads from the sports books after sports gaming was legalized... Ace Rothstein Nov 2022 #7
The apps are partnered with the sports leagues ZonkerHarris Nov 2022 #13
Even the teams as well. Ace Rothstein Nov 2022 #14
Seriously! It's like a fresh spring morning without the din of petronius Nov 2022 #9
Red herrings, distractions, bullshit, and balderdash mostly hvn_nbr_2 Nov 2022 #10
LA already has Las Vegas and most people illegally sports bet online that want to do it Johonny Nov 2022 #11

Zeitghost

(3,871 posts)
1. Legal betting
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 06:57 PM
Nov 2022

Is the best way to catch corruption. Legal bookmakers will notice the second lines start moving and large strange bets come in and will take moves to protect themselves from it.

I was hoping to play craps and make some bets without the 6 hour drive to Vegas.

Initech

(100,104 posts)
2. Turning every cell phone into a microtransaction betting device is probably a bad idea.
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 07:02 PM
Nov 2022

With no accountability either... what could go wrong?

Initech

(100,104 posts)
15. No I don't.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 01:27 PM
Nov 2022

But there's got to be a medium. I think the proposition was poorly written and the people it benefitted weren't exactly what I would call "trustworthy". I think we should have legalized gambling, but it needs to be properly vetted and regulated. What I was against was having places control it where you couldn't regulate it or police it properly. Gambling on a cell phone app? Cell phone apps are like international waters - anything goes. There's no rules or regulations, and people can be easily taken advantage of. They can also be easily hacked and your data can be mined and sold without your permission. So if a gambling transaction occurs like 100 times a day, that could spell disaster.

I'd personally love to see MGM and Caesar's build casino resorts in Hollywood Park and Newport Beach. That's my two cents.

ZonkerHarris

(24,259 posts)
16. Everyone who voted against these props made the bookies happy. Those apps are in business
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 01:39 PM
Nov 2022

and regulated in 30 states right now.

Initech

(100,104 posts)
17. I think I need to do more research on this subject.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 02:51 PM
Nov 2022

I'm totally for legalized gambling, don't get me wrong.

ZonkerHarris

(24,259 posts)
3. There's nothing like supporting bookies and black markets. Better to have no regulations no taxes
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 07:06 PM
Nov 2022

on the money and bookies so the Sopranos can send their thugs out to collect.
yay

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
4. Those who live outside of CA would scarcely believe the flood of advertising
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 07:08 PM
Nov 2022

that we endured around these two measures.

Sympthsical

(9,121 posts)
8. Seeing the ballot was the first time I'd even heard of the measures
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 07:27 PM
Nov 2022

Which is a testament to not watching cable or regular television I guess.

Partner was getting cranky, because he thought I was up super late obsessing about election things. Tch, I was waiting til midnight so I could watch the new season of the Crown, lol.

Ace Rothstein

(3,184 posts)
7. It was probably similar to flood of ads from the sports books after sports gaming was legalized...
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 07:25 PM
Nov 2022

...elsewhere. I enjoy being able to occasionally place an a bet on my phone but wish we didn't have to deal with all the ads every time I watch a sporting event.

petronius

(26,604 posts)
9. Seriously! It's like a fresh spring morning without the din of
Wed Nov 9, 2022, 07:35 PM
Nov 2022

“Gambling! Dialysis! Gambling! Dialysis!” I can almost hear the birds chirping and the grass growing…

hvn_nbr_2

(6,490 posts)
10. Red herrings, distractions, bullshit, and balderdash mostly
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 01:14 PM
Nov 2022

Virtually all the advertising was bullshit too:

Indian tribes vs Indian tribes about which one is best for Indian tribes (Hint: follow the money.).

Oh, no! It won't really solve homelessness!

All the money goes to out-of-state corporations! (Duh. Their business is currently illegal in Calif, so of course they're out-of-state.)

Everyone should be prohibited from gambling because some people will have problems with it. (I suggest applying the same logic to Powerball, beer, and cars--some will speed and drive drunk, so outlaw cars!)

In all the hundreds (probably) of ads, I never saw one that mentioned a simple basic question: Should you have to drive six hours to Reno to place a bet on a football game or horse race?

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