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senseandsensibility

(25,515 posts)
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 07:52 PM Nov 2022

So the media was taken in by all the RCP rightwing polls

and screamed about a red wave for weeks because of that. All of those polls have proven to be B.S. Ari just did a scathing report on both Real Clear Politics and the idiot talking heads who just repeated the lies. He showed clips of all kinds of CNN journalists happily serving as mouthpiece for RCP.

Has CNN covered this or are they just pretending it didn't happen? I think I know the answer, but since I stopped watching I can't be sure.

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So the media was taken in by all the RCP rightwing polls (Original Post) senseandsensibility Nov 2022 OP
RCP ruined its brand if anyone's paying attention tishaLA Nov 2022 #1
Exactly. senseandsensibility Nov 2022 #2
I knew RCP as an "opinion" or "news" site was already ruined after... W_HAMILTON Nov 2022 #4
wasn't Solomon The Hill? nt tishaLA Nov 2022 #7
I believe that was where they were originally picking his stories up from, yes. W_HAMILTON Nov 2022 #10
here are all the Solomon RCP articles, 1 from 2011, then a shedload starting in 2017 to the present Celerity Nov 2022 #16
Wait, those assholes are STILL carrying his crap? W_HAMILTON Nov 2022 #17
+1, uponit7771 Nov 2022 #5
Maybe that will mean less of A B Stoddard Deminpenn Nov 2022 #13
Ari was probably one of the pundits gab13by13 Nov 2022 #3
Brian Stelter would have talked about CNN's coverage of the polls Doc Sportello Nov 2022 #6
The media were willing accomplices. Efilroft Sul Nov 2022 #8
A visual of their propaganda polling: W_HAMILTON Nov 2022 #9
This is nothing new. Etherealoc1 Nov 2022 #11
Well, only if "taken in" is defined as "colluded" maxrandb Nov 2022 #12
Found it amusing that Ari couldn't find any clips Deminpenn Nov 2022 #14
538 was front and center in that too BumRushDaShow Nov 2022 #15
Complicit. I'm sure many of them know how to read the fine print on polls. Sky Jewels Nov 2022 #18

tishaLA

(14,794 posts)
1. RCP ruined its brand if anyone's paying attention
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:01 PM
Nov 2022

they've always tried to appear unbiased, but that mask had already slipped significantly. This should relegate them to the trash heap of bad data, but our media treats even bad polls like catnip.

W_HAMILTON

(10,438 posts)
4. I knew RCP as an "opinion" or "news" site was already ruined after...
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:10 PM
Nov 2022

...its shenanigans with John Solomon (go read about that, if you need to); however, I assumed their polling aggregate was pretty fair. Sort of like how WSJ's opinion page is certainly slanted towards conservatives, but their straight news is usually pretty trustworthy.

But no more.

I will no longer use RCP as a definitive source for polling and poll aggregates. I think this election proved that even their polling aggregation is just as biased as their news and opinion sections.

So long, RCP!

W_HAMILTON

(10,438 posts)
10. I believe that was where they were originally picking his stories up from, yes.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:18 PM
Nov 2022

However, even after all his scandals came out and more reputable websites dropped him, RCP continued to push his propaganda stories. I marked it off as them just posting all sorts of silly shit since they just sort of seem to be a """news""" aggregator of some sort as well, so I just stopped paying attention to the """news""" stories that they were pushing and just used them as (what I mistakenly thought) was a trusted poll aggregator.

But, like I said, no more.

W_HAMILTON

(10,438 posts)
17. Wait, those assholes are STILL carrying his crap?
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 09:52 PM
Nov 2022

Unbelievable.

Yeah, I should have seen the writing on the wall well before now. Oh well. Lesson learned.

Deminpenn

(17,583 posts)
13. Maybe that will mean less of A B Stoddard
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:51 PM
Nov 2022

on Nicolle Wallace's show. She was always cast as some sort of neutral analyst despite being an R and regualr on RCP.

gab13by13

(32,779 posts)
3. Ari was probably one of the pundits
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:09 PM
Nov 2022

calling for a red wave.

I have been criticized here for reporting that most polls were rigged. Then the rigged polls skewered the results of the poll of polls.

Polls are used for propaganda and then pundits read from teleprompters what their right wing domestic oligarchs tell them to read.

People believe a fence is a wall because pundits keep repeating it.

Doc Sportello

(7,964 posts)
6. Brian Stelter would have talked about CNN's coverage of the polls
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:10 PM
Nov 2022

But Licht got rid of him as the first order of business. He was an honest media critic and the fact he was fired first says a lot. Don't expect those on CNN to bring it up.

Efilroft Sul

(4,463 posts)
8. The media were willing accomplices.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:14 PM
Nov 2022

The owners loved the partisan polls being added to the aggregate to give them the midterm horse race and sweet, sweet ad revenues they so desperately craved. Additionally, they and their high-paid, bobble-headed anchors hoped their Republican friends and allies sweeping into office would reward them with another round of hefty tax breaks.

They weren't taken in; they were in on the take.

Etherealoc1

(275 posts)
11. This is nothing new.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:44 PM
Nov 2022

Every election for ratings, they
use outlandish polls to create a
narrative of a horse.

It's not going to ch


Deminpenn

(17,583 posts)
14. Found it amusing that Ari couldn't find any clips
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:57 PM
Nov 2022

of MSNBC hosts, pundits or guests echoing the "red wave" nonsense. Since I watch MSNBC and live in Pennsylvania, I know there were.

BumRushDaShow

(172,274 posts)
15. 538 was front and center in that too
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 08:59 PM
Nov 2022

For example here in PA for Josh Shapiro -





ACTUALS (from PA state elections site as of 3:36 pm EST 11/10/22)



The fact that Trafalgar Group poll was even included was ludicrous.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
18. Complicit. I'm sure many of them know how to read the fine print on polls.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 09:55 PM
Nov 2022

Many knew their assumptions about likely voters were largely horseshit. But it helped push the "Dems are doomed!" narrative their corporate overlords wanted.

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