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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMen jump onto Chicago school bus and make Nazi threats against Jewish students
By Travis Gettys
Published November 11, 2022
A group of men stormed a school bus and hurled antisemitic threats against a 12-year-old boy at Chicago's West Rogers Park in the 2800 block of Jerome Street.
Police said the bus had been dropping off elementary students from a nearby Orthodox Jewish school Wednesday about 5 p.m. when the men jumped on board and engaged in menacing behavior, although no one was injured, reported the Chicago Tribune.
At one stop, four men jumped into the bus, hurled antisemitic slurs, and performed the Heil Hitler salute at terrorized children, said Alison Pure Slovin, a spokesperson from the Simon Wiesenthal Center, in a statement.
https://www.rawstory.com/chicago-school-bus-nazi/
My question is there not cameras on school buses now days......if they are.....then this fucking group of fascist fucking nazis, should seriously be and have the book thrown at them and they can rot in jail....
Quakerfriend
(5,882 posts)Last edited Fri Nov 11, 2022, 01:54 PM - Edit history (1)
They ought to be able to catch them pretty easily.
In Colombia, some school buses have armed guards onboard. I hope we dont come to this!
Aviation Pro
(15,578 posts)Jake and Elwood have a solution.
Bluethroughu
(7,215 posts)We crack up every time.
Initech
(108,783 posts)Nazi punks fuck off!
TeamProg
(6,630 posts)IronLionZion
(51,267 posts)Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)I don't know either way, I mean it should be, but ... has anyone ever thought to write up a law addressing this sort of situation?
Probably at least trespassing, but people are rarely jailed for that.
turbinetree
(27,546 posts)and I really don't know if there are any laws on the books for this.......
Lonestarblue
(13,480 posts)Time to add some laws and maybe something to deal with the armed self-appointed militias in this country. Most are domestic terrorists.
EarlG
(23,631 posts)it's a $300 fine for just driving past a stopped school bus in Illinois.
My guess is that there are numerous ways someone could be charged for actually boarding a school bus and threatening the kids...
ProfessorGAC
(76,702 posts)The school bus is private property. They were not invited guests.
At the very least, Id think theyd be in violation of trespassing laws.
Laws about taking a threatening posture against a child probably exist, too. But, I dont know that for sure.
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Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)ProfessorGAC
(76,702 posts)I was agreeing. At the very least, it has to be that.
wnylib
(26,009 posts)Also, endangering the welfare of children. Depending on what they said, making terroristic threats might be applicable.
But personally, I'd have been delighted if one or more of the kids had been trained in kick boxing and had sent the fascist creeps into 2100.
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Chellee
(2,300 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(27,461 posts)Unlawful restraint - if they held the bus up for a few seconds and or restricted the drivers actions/movement in any way.
Sure, people are rarely jailed for trespassing. People rarely jump on a bus full of Jewish schoolchildren and make Nazi salutes. So theres that. This might be a good time to make use of those laws.
kcr
(15,522 posts)IronLionZion
(51,267 posts)Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)And if what they did was jump on board, shout Sieg Hiel a few times, and make Nazi salutes, and then get off the bus, with nobody physically harmed?
I'd say there's a decent chance that legally ... that's just trespassing.
I wish it were different, and certainly these assholes should be ID'd, shamed, shunned, and cancelled.
But not sure they're be prosecuted for anything worse than trespassing.
With it were different but that's my guess
IronLionZion
(51,267 posts)Google definition:
ter·ror·ism
/ˈterəˌrizəm/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: terrorism
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
"the fight against terrorism"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)But the definition involves an attempt at changing government policy or makeup or whatnot ... through violence or threats thereof.
I'm just not sure these assholes actions ... meet that criteria.
I think it would be a tough slog for prosecutors to charge anything like terrorism, put it like that.
This is SUPER OFFENSIVE, HORRIBLE SHIT, to be very clear
But ultimately I think it will be concluded by prosecutors ... that all they can nail them on is trespassing.
billh58
(6,655 posts)Terroristic threatening usually involves the communication and intent to engage in terrorizing another person through words or deeds which can lead to other actions such as an evacuation of a location, inconvenience and other complications. The specific purpose of these actions is to instill terror in the victims through the actions or words of the perpetrator.
https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/terroristic-threatening-the-legal-definition-52739
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magicarpet
(18,509 posts)Unleashing the Fascist extremists on America.
These are good people expressing their 1st Amendment Rights of free speech and political expressions.
God Bless these patriotic Americans.
Fuck this Nazi bullshit.
Paladin
(32,354 posts)Think of the hundreds of thousands of our nation's military personnel, who have suffered pain, suffering and death over the years. Then think of these antisemitic goons terrorizing children on a school bus. Whatever punishment they receive will be inadequate.
Traildogbob
(13,018 posts)Honoring our veterans. This one would love a little time with those shit stains. Feel pretty damn sure most of my fellow vets would love the same.
Were Kanye and Kyrie financing and encouraging the attack?
calimary
(90,018 posts)I hope and pray that there WILL be punishment. Hell may await them but I want to see earthly punishment for these goons NOW.
Threatening KIDS????? Despicable and Unconscionable!!!
Emile
(42,289 posts)After all these years since the end of WW2 and we have Nazi's in the United States.
kwolf68
(8,452 posts)I can't rationalize how someone would fall down this (pro Nazi) path.
SharonClark
(10,497 posts)This is a perfect example why.
greatauntoftriplets
(179,005 posts)In 1999, there was a series of shootings by a follower of Matthew Hale that terrorized West Rogers Park.
https://forward.com/culture/426735/white-supremacist-chicago-jews-ricky-byrdsong-benjamin-smith-1999/
Just before sunset on July 2, 1999, a Ford Crown Vic approached 15-year-old Ephraim Wolfe in Chicagos West Rogers Park.
A bullet had just torn a dime-sized hole in Wolfes leg, a couple of inches below the knee. The friend with whom hed been walking had run to a nearby house for help, and Wolfe was alone. He was bleeding badly, and his leg had swelled to twice its normal size, but his body was in shock, and he didnt feel any pain. Perhaps one minute had passed since hed dismissed two explosive pops from the window of a passing car as early July 4 fireworks, only to look down and see blood.
Wolfe watched the Crown Vic. It was driving the wrong way down the one-way street. He screamed for his friend, thinking that the gunman was back. And he said the Shema.
Bluethroughu
(7,215 posts)chowder66
(12,242 posts)Solly Mack
(96,942 posts)Using hate speech.
This wasn't some exercise in free speech. This was an attack. Against children.
Initech
(108,783 posts)
NNadir
(38,045 posts)...suppress one.
Turbineguy
(40,074 posts)about $10,000 in dental work.
Justice matters.
(9,787 posts)Hair furhair's patriots.
lpbk2713
(43,273 posts)It should be multiplied by the number of students on the bus at the time.
And of course they will say they're sorry. Sorry they got caught.
3auld6phart
(1,683 posts)Cameras. and if m caught. Maximum sentences allowed. That is way beyond
Horrndous. What tell hell is the matter with nazi wannabes %?
tulipsandroses
(8,251 posts)Since their type tend to pride themselves on being the ultimate male. Didnt know that attacking kids was a manly thing to do.
Iggo
(49,927 posts)AllaN01Bear
(29,490 posts)Grins
(9,459 posts)They (all Republicans) assault a 12-year old Jewish boy.
That whirling sound you hear is Eisenhower. And FDR, Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Bush and Reagan.
Now ask Trump if he condemns this.
lindysalsagal
(22,915 posts)Alabama or Tennessee, I'd not be surprised.
ms liberty
(11,237 posts)lindysalsagal
(22,915 posts)Alabama or Tennessee, I'd not be so surprised.
jerseyjim
(129 posts)ZonkerHarris
(25,577 posts)Iggo
(49,927 posts)And were fresh outa Zombies.
NoMoreRepugs
(12,076 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)(for example)