Fri Nov 11, 2022, 11:56 AM
Claustrum (4,795 posts)
LOL.... Republicans are so angry with Wasserman for calling AZ for Kelly last night
that he was forced to post a disclaimer.
Disclaimer: as has always been the case, the personal judgments offered by this account regarding election results are not official race "calls" and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Cook Political Report, NBC News or any other entity. Link to tweet I've seen enough: Sen. Mark Kelly (D) wins reelection in #AZSEN, defeating Blake Masters (R). Link to tweet
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Claustrum | Nov 2022 | OP |
KS Toronado | Nov 2022 | #1 | |
in2herbs | Nov 2022 | #2 | |
PatrickforB | Nov 2022 | #19 | |
jaxexpat | Nov 2022 | #20 | |
jayschool2013 | Nov 2022 | #21 | |
Celerity | Nov 2022 | #28 | |
GreenWave | Nov 2022 | #3 | |
Claustrum | Nov 2022 | #4 | |
DFW | Nov 2022 | #5 | |
Dale in Laurel MD | Nov 2022 | #7 | |
DFW | Nov 2022 | #18 | |
dchill | Nov 2022 | #8 | |
Cosmocat | Nov 2022 | #10 | |
calimary | Nov 2022 | #17 | |
Gordolfon | Nov 2022 | #6 | |
Polybius | Nov 2022 | #9 | |
Claustrum | Nov 2022 | #11 | |
CaptainTruth | Nov 2022 | #12 | |
Demsrule86 | Nov 2022 | #23 | |
Claustrum | Nov 2022 | #24 | |
Cha | Nov 2022 | #13 | |
BadgerMom | Nov 2022 | #14 | |
Claustrum | Nov 2022 | #16 | |
Deminpenn | Nov 2022 | #22 | |
Hermit-The-Prog | Nov 2022 | #26 | |
peppertree | Nov 2022 | #15 | |
Bernardo de La Paz | Nov 2022 | #25 | |
LetMyPeopleVote | Nov 2022 | #27 |
Response to Claustrum (Original post)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 12:06 PM
KS Toronado (13,741 posts)
1. It's getting to the point in this country
nobody can have an opinion unless you're a RWNJ. Next they'll want absolute loyalty to Der Fuhrer.
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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #1)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 12:09 PM
in2herbs (2,932 posts)
2. Myabe so but who is their next Der Fuhrer? It's hard to imagine someone worse than
tfg, desatan, and the others.
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Response to in2herbs (Reply #2)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 02:31 PM
PatrickforB (14,219 posts)
19. Josh Hawley comes to mind...n/t
Response to PatrickforB (Reply #19)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 02:42 PM
jaxexpat (6,002 posts)
20. DeSantis has a shallow plot just off a road through a swamp near Apalachicola for Sen. Hawley.
The question is, will Hawley step into it while distractedly fist saluting an insurrection and NOT watching his step? Or will DeSantis have him pushed?
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Response to jaxexpat (Reply #20)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 02:54 PM
jayschool2013 (2,277 posts)
21. Hawley
Just tell him there's danger in the area, and point out the ditch near Apalachicola as a safe space. He'll run right into it.
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Response to in2herbs (Reply #2)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 06:15 PM
Celerity (39,255 posts)
28. Lake scares the fuck out of me.
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Response to Claustrum (Original post)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 12:18 PM
GreenWave (4,817 posts)
3. If race results were reversed they would be screaming for the call!
Time to splash them with paint?
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Response to GreenWave (Reply #3)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 12:21 PM
Claustrum (4,795 posts)
4. I think it's the split ticket or mixed result in many states that is preventing them to shout fraud.
They needed some votes to count to catch up while they want others not to count.
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Response to Claustrum (Reply #4)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 12:30 PM
DFW (52,356 posts)
5. I tend to agree with that
They can’t say that Kemp won fairly, but Warnock didn’t if it was the same election.
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Response to DFW (Reply #5)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 01:14 PM
Dale in Laurel MD (657 posts)
7. They did in 2020.
There were plenty of claims that Biden votes were faked but down-ballot votes for Repubs on the same ballot were legitimate.
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Response to Dale in Laurel MD (Reply #7)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 02:27 PM
DFW (52,356 posts)
18. I'm familiar with the argument
"Those things on my right hand are fingers, but those things on my left hand are toes."
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Response to DFW (Reply #5)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 01:21 PM
dchill (37,017 posts)
8. In my experience, they've said whatever they needed to say...
...to bolster their alternative facts.
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Response to dchill (Reply #8)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 01:25 PM
Cosmocat (14,490 posts)
10. This is what it is
they LONG ago gave up any pretense of consistency or avoidance of hypocrisy.
In the great holy and patriotic war against the evil liberal boogyman, ANYTHING goes. |
Response to dchill (Reply #8)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 02:16 PM
calimary (78,168 posts)
17. Yep. THIS.
They live in their own reality. And they won’t be moving out of that reality voluntarily, anytime soon. Don’t forget about the power of DENIAL.
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Response to Claustrum (Original post)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 12:32 PM
Gordolfon (75 posts)
6. he didn't have to do the disclaimer
he had simply seen enough.
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Response to Claustrum (Original post)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 01:23 PM
Polybius (13,467 posts)
9. After saying "I've seen enough", has Wasserman ever gotten it wrong?
I've asked this two other times over the past two years, and have never gotten an answer.
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Response to Polybius (Reply #9)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 01:29 PM
Claustrum (4,795 posts)
11. I've seen a tweet saying he got it right about 92% of the time
and citing a race in NV that Ralston got right (assuming Wasserman didn't). I don't know enough to research the validity of that tweet. But point being, I think Wasserman is very much likely to be right.
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Response to Claustrum (Reply #11)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 01:38 PM
CaptainTruth (6,291 posts)
12. I believe you're correct on that.
Wasserman's accuracy is in the high 90% but he did go against Ralston in one NV call that he got wrong, that's the one I've heard of.
Wasserman is damn good, nearly "money in the bank" good, but I don't think anyone knows NV better than Ralston. |
Response to Claustrum (Reply #11)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 02:57 PM
Demsrule86 (67,228 posts)
23. He has never been wrong...and if he says Kelly wins...then Kelly wins...and Cortez Masto will win
too. And a fair number of those ballots you refer to are Culinary worker ballots and will break for the Democrats.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #23)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 03:03 PM
Claustrum (4,795 posts)
24. Are you referring to other comments of mine? I didn't talk about NV in this one.
The NV race was a previous race in other years. Like I said, I don't know which one that tweet was talking about but comment #13 said the same thing.
As far as the current NV race, I definitely believe CCM will pull ahead and win. It's just that we have to wait for the votes to be counted before we know for sure. Saying to wait doesn't mean I am rooting for republicans to win or that I doubt CCM's ability to win this race. Stop reading non-existing things into what I said. I am not some republican troll. But at the same time, I am trying to put out the facts as it stands now without adding too much "what I hope it is" into it. |
Response to Claustrum (Original post)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 01:59 PM
Cha (289,579 posts)
13. Tough.. DT was ballistic at fox for calling
AZ for Joe Biden Early in 2020.. lol
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Response to Claustrum (Original post)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 02:00 PM
BadgerMom (2,694 posts)
14. It seems as though networks are fearful to make calls
after TFG’s agita following Fox’s call of AZ for Biden in 2020. Maybe not. Maybe there are just so many mail-in ballots now that counting takes longer than it has before. But since 2000 many election nights aren’t what they used to be, 2008 and 2012 being exceptions.
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Response to BadgerMom (Reply #14)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 02:04 PM
Claustrum (4,795 posts)
16. I think for AZ, they are waiting for the 290k mail-in votes that were dropped off on election day.
It is assumed that it would lean republican but Master would need something like 70/25 to take the lead. Wasserman think it's near impossible to get that ratio so he called AZ. The networks are likely waiting for some of that votes to release later today and call it for Kelly when it shows Masters only get 60/35.
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Response to BadgerMom (Reply #14)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 02:56 PM
Deminpenn (15,119 posts)
22. Networks are milking the post-election day period
for all it's worth to goose ratings.
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Response to Deminpenn (Reply #22)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 03:20 PM
Hermit-The-Prog (29,561 posts)
26. Elections are to M$M as Christmas is to shopping malls.
Response to Claustrum (Original post)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 02:01 PM
peppertree (20,510 posts)
15. Master Bates will have to go cry to Sieg Theil.
No resemblance, surely.
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Response to Claustrum (Original post)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 03:13 PM
Bernardo de La Paz (46,741 posts)
25. It's an echo of Fox calling Arizona D on election night in 2020. RW went apoplectic then. . . nt
Response to Claustrum (Original post)
Fri Nov 11, 2022, 06:08 PM
LetMyPeopleVote (136,508 posts)