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What does everyone think: Does the Senate win diminish Manchin's position or not? (Original Post) Thomas Hurt Nov 2022 OP
Only if edhopper Nov 2022 #1
Correct Cosmocat Nov 2022 #24
Of course it does intrepidity Nov 2022 #2
If Warnock wins, we have a cushion. Raven123 Nov 2022 #3
Put our collective heads down and get to work for Warnock. onecaliberal Nov 2022 #4
Correct. If Walker wins, it will be a race to flip bottomofthehill Nov 2022 #8
Yep leftieNanner Nov 2022 #10
yes, I agree. Quite possibly it's something party leadership could mitigate in advance. msfiddlestix Nov 2022 #28
Winner! FakeNoose Nov 2022 #21
Unless he switches party n/t kirby Nov 2022 #5
That will never happen - Manchin is proud of his membership in the Democratic Party FakeNoose Nov 2022 #20
only if warnock wins. without that the numbers are exactly the same Takket Nov 2022 #6
With 51 seats we can say, "who". With 50 seats we have to know his f#$king name. Kittycatkat Nov 2022 #7
I bet he switches parties if it stays 50-50 RandySF Nov 2022 #9
Watch for Sinema to go first bottomofthehill Nov 2022 #11
Only if she plans to retire in 2024 Fiendish Thingy Nov 2022 #19
Rubin Gallego is already talking about running against her in a democratic primary bottomofthehill Nov 2022 #23
Yup- her senate career ends in 2024. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2022 #25
BITE YOUR TONGUE! DemocraticPatriot Nov 2022 #13
Only if he plans to retire in 2024 Fiendish Thingy Nov 2022 #17
Now we'll just have to try to satisfy only one of... brush Nov 2022 #12
It would all seem to matter less, DemocraticPatriot Nov 2022 #14
Sigh. Yes. brush Nov 2022 #15
But there is still an outside chance for Dem control of the House--- DemocraticPatriot Nov 2022 #18
Nope. He's still the most powerful man in America. Fiendish Thingy Nov 2022 #16
If we get the Warnock, we have one more Senator...but we needed two to counter Demsrule86 Nov 2022 #22
No LeftInTX Nov 2022 #26
very little. if at all. -(nt)- stopdiggin Nov 2022 #27
The question has to be asked: anamnua Nov 2022 #29

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)
8. Correct. If Walker wins, it will be a race to flip
Sat Nov 12, 2022, 11:40 PM
Nov 2022

Mitch McConnell will dangle the world to Manchin and Senima with a Walker win, he only needs one, with a Warnock hold he needs them both. Senima may be the first to take the deal.

msfiddlestix

(7,281 posts)
28. yes, I agree. Quite possibly it's something party leadership could mitigate in advance.
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 08:44 AM
Nov 2022

But that is presumming too much and inserting fantasy.

So the reality of both of their inclinations (let's just call it) is rather predictable for the most part. My worries are both jumping ship.

We badly need reliable Senators in play, so we have to flip up coming races in 2024 I believe is the next opportunity.

brush

(53,776 posts)
12. Now we'll just have to try to satisfy only one of...
Sat Nov 12, 2022, 11:46 PM
Nov 2022

him or Sinema countless times for them to stop pulling the football away from us at the last minute like Lucy does to Charlie Brown.

And that of course depends on Sen. Warnock winning in Georgia.

DemocraticPatriot

(4,361 posts)
18. But there is still an outside chance for Dem control of the House---
Sat Nov 12, 2022, 11:59 PM
Nov 2022

something most of us would not have predicted, 5 days after the election...

I pray for some "surprises" in California, and anywhere else that the counting of votes is not completed yet...


Fiendish Thingy

(15,601 posts)
16. Nope. He's still the most powerful man in America.
Sat Nov 12, 2022, 11:57 PM
Nov 2022

Even if we get to 51, if Manchin opposes a bill, Sinema will too. We needed 52 to prevent their obstruction.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
22. If we get the Warnock, we have one more Senator...but we needed two to counter
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 12:08 AM
Nov 2022

Sinema and Manchin. But I'll take it for the judges and if we keep the house we could pass some legislation.

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