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During an appearance on MSNBC on Sunday morning, Donald Trump's niece, Mary Trump, warned that her uncle has never been more dangerous than now after the midterm election failure by the GOP was blamed on him.
More to the point, she said he has become a danger to the GOP.
Speaking with host Ali Velshi, she went on to say that the danger comes from her uncle's fears of becoming "irrelevant."
"What do you think happens here?" the MSNBC host prompted. "Donald Trump wants to be relevant, in the face of an election that has done something for him he never wanted: it has proved that he is potentially less relevant and he thinks he is. How do you square those things? You maintain that he maintains the dangerousness in the Republican Party, by extension the most dangerous person in America."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-will-burn-everything-down-if-republicans-turn-their-backs-on-him-mary-trump/ar-AA143FX7
intrepidity
(8,555 posts)Oh wait...
FoxNewsSucks
(11,504 posts)who actually is in possession of the dirt on republicons - MF45 or Putin
BigmanPigman
(54,618 posts)they could successfully open a chain of omelette restaurants.
Lovie777
(21,871 posts)magicarpet
(18,457 posts)Do not put all your eggs in the tRump basket.
But they refused to listen.
Last Tuesday nearly all their eggs were smashed, crushed, and pulverized.
tRump has only just started decimating the Republican't Party. He will grind them up into dust.
Kittycatkat
(1,764 posts)But we have resolve and, as usual, will have to clean up the mess the repugs ALWAYS leave in their wake.
lindysalsagal
(22,823 posts)everything down by himself.
He may expose the GQP taking russian oligarch money, but they're on the ropes right now, so, it's not going to do them all that much harm.
I heard several GQP talking heads on CNN today state clearly that he's the #1 problem of the GQP and they need to jettison him.
So, sounds like he's already irrelevant.
emulatorloo
(46,135 posts)W_HAMILTON
(10,109 posts)...which will still support him regardless of what the higher-ups in the Republican Party have to say about it.
The only way the Republican Party gets rid of Trump without the party imploding is if Trump gets rid of himself (i.e., he doesn't run or just decides to get out of politics altogether). They aren't going to be able to simply push him aside because he has the support of the majority of Republican voters and he's petty and narcissistic enough to where if they try, he will absolutely encourage those supporters to wage war on fellow Republicans and even sit out races to punish them for turning their back on Trump. And his supporters absolutely will listen.
moonscape
(5,637 posts)is 30% fickle if they see Desantis as enough like him in misogyny, racism, immigrant hatred, etc and poised to be the successful one. His rally-goers are bored cult retreads and maybe open to the new flavor of the month. Dunno, just maybe.
allegorical oracle
(6,222 posts)crazies than of drumpf, himself. Some were simply riding his coattails. It's an interesting conundrum for Repukes.
lindysalsagal
(22,823 posts)The typical magat, or not. He's lost them 3 elections.
republianmushroom
(22,125 posts)EarthFirst
(3,969 posts)We all know hes irrelevant; however if we push that narcissist to the edge
vlyons
(10,252 posts)The uglier, angrier, and nastier he gets, the more GOP politicians and big contributors will walk away. Who wants to be around an angry hostile vindictive asshole? Those who continue to curry his favor will be tainted as the "loser party." Pariahs
Losers in elections, losers in respect, losers in accomplishments, losers
Losers losers losers losers losers losers
Captain Zero
(8,756 posts)Every day, but only if he speaks about other Republicans and which ones aren't any damn good.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Of course he would never go on MSNBC or any cable or network. Only softballs pitched at him, if that
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)at the first chance..
Stahl is not exactly lightweight or leftie
RestoreAmerica2020
(3,471 posts).like to hear her speak on various issues....shes clear,concise and is fact based. Quite a contrast from the ffg facist side of the family.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.msnbc.com/ali-velshi/watch/mary-trump-trump-is-the-most-dangerous-person-to-the-gop-153421381988&ved=2ahUKEwiarZ-S8Kv7AhUGKkQIHbgQDkMQwqsBegQIEBAE&usg=AOvVaw3hiTaGZ3uIGoKp4BzekbWJ
EYESORE 9001
(29,466 posts)Imagine if rump starts leaking kompromat - and you know damn well hes got tons of it. Probably enough to make J. Edgar blush.
Jedi Guy
(3,426 posts)If he has the kind of kompromat you're suggesting they'd keep kissing his ass regardless of election results. These people care about only one thing: keeping power at all costs. None of them would risk that kind of thing leaking out and eroding their personal hold on power, midterm results be damned.
The only reason they ever latched onto Trump to begin with was to use him to increase their power. He's no longer useful in that regard and has become counterproductive, so the Great Abandoning has begun.
They will abandon him in droves with the exception of the True Believers, and Trump in his wounded fury will lash out and do as much damage as he can to all the rest on his way down. His political death rattle is going to seriously damage the GOP.
Couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch.
alterfurz
(2,672 posts)...before he will let them ignore him. -- @MiddleAgeRiot
Torchlight
(6,355 posts)ineffectual, snide little man who only feels his true worth when he's puffing his chest and barking orders, never adding anything other than his own unique brand of self-importance.
Though there's a lot like him in the world, luckily not too many of them do anything other than complain, whine, and throw wee tantrums.
mcar
(45,711 posts)lame54
(39,230 posts)Boomerproud
(9,165 posts)if they had the courage to do so. January 6th was a signal to everyone, not just Democrats. DOJ get off your butts.
lame54
(39,230 posts)Power is perception
If they push him away then ignore him he'll just be
Man yells at clouds
grantcart
(53,061 posts)allegorical oracle
(6,222 posts)"normal" Repugs and some Indies to vote for a DeSatan. Some Indies would still vote w/ the Dems. Splintering could work for Dems, imho.
GreenWave
(12,371 posts)The strings await you.
brewens
(15,359 posts)Even if he agreed to shut up and go away, he can't be trusted. He could get right back in the middle of things, and they couldn't do anything about it.
canetoad
(20,283 posts)That Trump is going to announce his 2024 run on Tuesday.
Is this true? I thought Trump said he will have a big announcement on Tuesday but did not mention a 2024 run. Has everyone inferred the wrong thing and the announcement will be something totally different?
ZonkerHarris
(25,577 posts)Tanuki
(16,313 posts)Initech
(107,576 posts)Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)Needs to happen.
onetexan
(13,913 posts)scipan
(2,981 posts)Remember though, he almost certainly has a self pardon in his pocket. Seems like this SCOTUS would accept that. Leaving only the state cases.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)burning the nation down (as opposed to tRump burning the party down) is clearly already past because they didn't even turn out to vote in needed numbers.
They utterly declined tRump's calls to get out of their armchairs around the time of January 6 also. Even most of the thousands who came to the Capitol to protest turned and left or moved back and watched as the violence began.
Of course, Der Leader wasn't on the midterms ballots and that could conceivably still make a big difference, but nevertheless the evaluation grabbed my attention.
stopdiggin
(15,068 posts)recall the 'pitiful' convoy attempts? These things don't last too long when the rest of the world is calling you a bunch of morons. And, the small cadre of deluded 'militants' - that are actually willing to go out and do damage, or confront authority - are vanishingly thin. (which is not to say that we don't have a significant 'militant extremist' problem out there - just that the majority of them are not wedded to Trump, or his 'cause.')
Now .. there's still the 'dirty tricks' variety of sabotage - a la the denial of service type attacks flooding elections offices around the country with requests for 'records'. But - let's also remember that Trump is famously unwilling to foot the bill for any kind of national or grassroots type of effort or campaign. And - are the deep pockets, that are still out there, still willing to hitch their star to the defeated man-child?
I think Sharpton is dead on target here. And it's one of the reasons I have a problem with the "burn everything down' language. He doesn't have the resources, the ammo - or the following. Regardless the temper tantrum he might throw.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)that the perfect storm for the blood-red tsunami would fail to form and eventually mostly dissipate. Again. Eventually.
And now what comes next...?
Of course, tRump was never the whole, and he's never been the leader of the whole. Various RW powers. including RW plutocrats and the religious right, had decided democracy needed to go long before populist mania took control from them by elevating a depraved tRump. They've been accelerating their visible attacks on government since the 1990s into this century and have been able to use trumpist chaos to create enormous successes for themselves.
Why would they stop?
As of now, they have their own enormous personal powers (and are far wealthier than ever), have installed a supermajority on SCOTUS, and have powerful agents in governments at all levels -- and in control of many, plus the nation is still reeling under a fair amount of desirable, revolution-enabling chaos. And the MAGAs' radicalized, even nihilistic populist mania, far slower to ebb than to explode, means they will continue to be very grave threat and weapon for some time. I
So, we carry on. This election puts the Republicans farther from being able to call a constitutional convention to burn up our 1788 Constitution, but they have SCOTUS. I worry that America may be lulled into believing the GOP has regained its senses and the big threat is past. I'm wondering if SCOTUS will back off a bit on its aggressive RW judicial overthrow of what we've built over the past 230+ years to help lull the people or bull ahead like the anti-democracy extremists they are. Best clueless guess, the latter... It's unlikely we'll have the ability this term to re-form the high court, i.e., stop them.
stopdiggin
(15,068 posts)I just don't see Trump as a cornerstone (or lodestone) of much of anything going forward. A 'useful idiot' on occasion to those with real scope and ambition. (well, we've already seen that) But either king or kingmaker? The man just simply doesn't have the depth - (on any level).
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)They've benefited so much from the chaos and dismantling during his presidency, but they have to be concerned about who would control the mobs in the end. MAGAs want their leader to kidnap and even execute those who get in his way.
All in all, this would seem a good point for the big guys to return to their takeover through subversion of courts and government. IF they can.
WinstonSmith4740
(3,417 posts)He was always capable of splitting the party wide open, and he's doing it now. The MAGA loons will stay with him to the end. The Liz Cheney Republicans will be outnumbered. Even if they take The House, they'll have what? Maybe a 2 vote edge. MTG will immediately kick McCarthy in the balls, and it'll be a cluster fuck from beginning to end. The people will rapidly get tired of it, and get rid of them for good in '24. It'll be years before they ever see a majority again.
And the Dems need to let them do it.
Oh, and THANKS JOE!!!
Dave says
(5,334 posts)Hes not in power anymore. He doesnt have the nuclear codes. Any secrets he was going to give away (sell) are probably long gone or are untouchable by him given the now watchful eyes of national security and law enforcement. Hes impotent.
Sure, he can tweet out a bunch of garbage embarrassing this and that politician, but other than inflicting embarrassment, what can he do?
stopdiggin
(15,068 posts)a bunch of nasty tweets - a couple of (laughable) lawsuits ... And then what?
Emile
(40,771 posts)stopdiggin
(15,068 posts)because the man doesn't have the reins of power in his hands anymore. So he really can't. A spoiler, yes. And a lot of skeletons could come rattling out of the closet. (with the recipients being 98% conspirators and fellow grifters). To which I say, "What are we waiting for?" "Bring it on!"
EndlessWire
(8,103 posts)to nip this in the bud. Nobody talks like Donald might actually be sent to prison. Yeah, you can run for President while in jail, but it will be hard to do from SuperMax.
Donald has got a world of hurt in front of him. No wonder the GOP has turned on him; he's not a commodity that can be relied upon. How embarrassing to have your front runner hooked up at the podium after being indicted for espionage.
He's not getting out of this. It's not going away. He can't buy his way out of it. No Super PAC will save his ass. Running for Pres will not stop an indictment. He's living in a fantasy world. You can't steal classified docs and then claim it was all a paperwork management error. Nice try, Donald, but it won't work. You got caught.
If Garland does not indict him, then we will have cause to protest like nobody's business. THIS IS THE TRUE TEST OF OUR DEMOCRACY. What did Garland say? "Nobody is above the law." What did we say? "Nobody is above the law." What does Donald say? "I am an exception." Well, bullsh*t!
Get him, Garland! Keep him too busy running from court to court to campaign! We want Donald GONE!!
wiggs
(8,699 posts)reputations, freedom, and life.
If he truly knows that much about the connections between world oligarchs, foreign money in us elections, corruption, etc...he won't say a thing. And he's already told those who have compromat that he will stay in his lane no matter what he tells the press. He knows how the mob works.
He may deal in some small, pathetic gossip and tabloid secrets...but I doubt he'll get serious about major players including the NRA, RNC, the gop PTB, etc
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Is the best thing that could happen to America. They can all go to hell.
roamer65
(37,818 posts)I would love to see the national GQP go the same route as CA-GQP.