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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(133,136 posts)
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 02:13 PM Nov 2022

'Donald will burn everything down' if Republicans turn their backs on him: Mary Trump

During an appearance on MSNBC on Sunday morning, Donald Trump's niece, Mary Trump, warned that her uncle has never been more dangerous than now after the midterm election failure by the GOP was blamed on him.

More to the point, she said he has become a danger to the GOP.

Speaking with host Ali Velshi, she went on to say that the danger comes from her uncle's fears of becoming "irrelevant."

"What do you think happens here?" the MSNBC host prompted. "Donald Trump wants to be relevant, in the face of an election that has done something for him he never wanted: it has proved that he is potentially less relevant and he thinks he is. How do you square those things? You maintain that he maintains the dangerousness in the Republican Party, by extension the most dangerous person in America."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-will-burn-everything-down-if-republicans-turn-their-backs-on-him-mary-trump/ar-AA143FX7

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'Donald will burn everything down' if Republicans turn their backs on him: Mary Trump (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2022 OP
Good thing he's not running around with top secret docs stashed in his drawers intrepidity Nov 2022 #1
I'm thinking we are about to find out FoxNewsSucks Nov 2022 #2
Both of them have so much egg on their faces that BigmanPigman Nov 2022 #35
Okey dokey....... Lovie777 Nov 2022 #3
The ReThugs were repeatedly warned,... magicarpet Nov 2022 #4
A basket of rotten eggs. It's going to take a long time to get rid of their stench. Kittycatkat Nov 2022 #15
His power comes from puppeting those IN office. So, I'm not sure I see a way for him to burn everyth lindysalsagal Nov 2022 #5
Third party run if he doesn't get the GOP nomination for one thing. emulatorloo Nov 2022 #8
Wrong. His power comes from his deranged supporters... W_HAMILTON Nov 2022 #12
There's also the possibility that 40% base moonscape Nov 2022 #19
Have believed all along that many of tfg's sycophants have been more afraid of his base full of allegorical oracle Nov 2022 #21
Freeperville is rejecting him outright. Don't know if that reptresents6 lindysalsagal Nov 2022 #40
Well we can hope, can't we. republianmushroom Nov 2022 #6
I say push that envelope. EarthFirst Nov 2022 #7
Let him rant and flame as much as he likes vlyons Nov 2022 #9
Maybe MSNBC should give him 15 minutes Captain Zero Nov 2022 #20
Imagine Rachel maddow, or Lawrence, or Ali Velshi, or Nicole Wallace having at him lol vlyons Nov 2022 #28
Others have tried, but even if he grants an iterview, he'll walk out.. TreasonousBastard Nov 2022 #44
Here's video ..she adds "Donald will burn everything down if he feels he's going down" RestoreAmerica2020 Nov 2022 #10
We're gonna need more popcorn EYESORE 9001 Nov 2022 #11
Doubtful. Jedi Guy Nov 2022 #36
Donald Trump will boil the Republican Party's pet rabbit in a pot... alterfurz Nov 2022 #13
I think he's a little man yelling at people so he feels important. Torchlight Nov 2022 #14
Works for me mcar Nov 2022 #16
Does he even have the power to do it? lame54 Nov 2022 #17
If they give him the power, yes. They could cut him off at the knees Boomerproud Nov 2022 #29
I mean his party turning their backs on him... lame54 Nov 2022 #30
If he could figure a way to monetize it he would start a third party. grantcart Nov 2022 #18
That would be the best of all political worlds. The nutbags would stick with him, leaving more allegorical oracle Nov 2022 #23
Go IQ45 Such Nero what you can do to the GQP GreenWave Nov 2022 #22
It would take a shit ton of money to keep Trump quiet and have to be secret probably. brewens Nov 2022 #24
Ali Velshi said, right at the beginning canetoad Nov 2022 #25
Do they need any extra gasoline, matches, kindling? I'm there for them. ZonkerHarris Nov 2022 #26
We don't need no water, let the m.f. burn.... Tanuki Nov 2022 #27
The GOP needs to burn! Donny can take his crazy conspiracy theorists and talk show hosts with him! Initech Nov 2022 #31
TFG is going to burn down that party in any conceivable way this plays out. Just A Box Of Rain Nov 2022 #32
Let the circular firing squad fight ensue. We'll be there to watch their party implode. onetexan Nov 2022 #33
What if they offered him a pardon after beating him in the primary scipan Nov 2022 #34
Other day Al Sharpton pointed out that the threat of the MAGAs Hortensis Nov 2022 #37
mass demonstrations are over stopdiggin Nov 2022 #45
That all seems extremely likely. I've been mostly expecting Hortensis Nov 2022 #51
and a lot of THAT is exteremely likely as well stopdiggin Nov 2022 #52
Yes. A useful idiot at most if they manage it. Hortensis Nov 2022 #53
I think we all saw this coming... WinstonSmith4740 Nov 2022 #38
What exactly can TFG do? Dave says Nov 2022 #39
exactly right. stopdiggin Nov 2022 #46
If he is not in prison he should run third party. Emile Nov 2022 #41
don't like the "burn everything down" terminology stopdiggin Nov 2022 #42
I'm still counting on Garland EndlessWire Nov 2022 #43
They all own each other. If one steps out of line, they need to fear for their own health, wiggs Nov 2022 #47
Destroying the GQP even if it's done out of spite BlueIdaho Nov 2022 #48
I'll provide the can of gas and match if needed. roamer65 Nov 2022 #49
.... CatWoman Nov 2022 #50

FoxNewsSucks

(11,504 posts)
2. I'm thinking we are about to find out
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 02:18 PM
Nov 2022

who actually is in possession of the dirt on republicons - MF45 or Putin

BigmanPigman

(54,618 posts)
35. Both of them have so much egg on their faces that
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 05:13 PM
Nov 2022

they could successfully open a chain of omelette restaurants.

magicarpet

(18,457 posts)
4. The ReThugs were repeatedly warned,...
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 02:22 PM
Nov 2022

Do not put all your eggs in the tRump basket.

But they refused to listen.

Last Tuesday nearly all their eggs were smashed, crushed, and pulverized.

tRump has only just started decimating the Republican't Party. He will grind them up into dust.

Kittycatkat

(1,764 posts)
15. A basket of rotten eggs. It's going to take a long time to get rid of their stench.
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 02:49 PM
Nov 2022

But we have resolve and, as usual, will have to clean up the mess the repugs ALWAYS leave in their wake.

lindysalsagal

(22,823 posts)
5. His power comes from puppeting those IN office. So, I'm not sure I see a way for him to burn everyth
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 02:26 PM
Nov 2022

everything down by himself.

He may expose the GQP taking russian oligarch money, but they're on the ropes right now, so, it's not going to do them all that much harm.

I heard several GQP talking heads on CNN today state clearly that he's the #1 problem of the GQP and they need to jettison him.

So, sounds like he's already irrelevant.

W_HAMILTON

(10,109 posts)
12. Wrong. His power comes from his deranged supporters...
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 02:36 PM
Nov 2022

...which will still support him regardless of what the higher-ups in the Republican Party have to say about it.

The only way the Republican Party gets rid of Trump without the party imploding is if Trump gets rid of himself (i.e., he doesn't run or just decides to get out of politics altogether). They aren't going to be able to simply push him aside because he has the support of the majority of Republican voters and he's petty and narcissistic enough to where if they try, he will absolutely encourage those supporters to wage war on fellow Republicans and even sit out races to punish them for turning their back on Trump. And his supporters absolutely will listen.

moonscape

(5,637 posts)
19. There's also the possibility that 40% base
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 02:53 PM
Nov 2022

is 30% fickle if they see Desantis as enough like him in misogyny, racism, immigrant hatred, etc and poised to be the successful one. His rally-goers are bored cult retreads and maybe open to the new flavor of the month. Dunno, just maybe.

allegorical oracle

(6,222 posts)
21. Have believed all along that many of tfg's sycophants have been more afraid of his base full of
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 03:10 PM
Nov 2022

crazies than of drumpf, himself. Some were simply riding his coattails. It's an interesting conundrum for Repukes.

lindysalsagal

(22,823 posts)
40. Freeperville is rejecting him outright. Don't know if that reptresents6
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 06:15 PM
Nov 2022

The typical magat, or not. He's lost them 3 elections.

EarthFirst

(3,969 posts)
7. I say push that envelope.
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 02:28 PM
Nov 2022

We all know he’s irrelevant; however if we push that narcissist to the edge…

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
9. Let him rant and flame as much as he likes
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 02:30 PM
Nov 2022

The uglier, angrier, and nastier he gets, the more GOP politicians and big contributors will walk away. Who wants to be around an angry hostile vindictive asshole? Those who continue to curry his favor will be tainted as the "loser party." Pariahs

Losers in elections, losers in respect, losers in accomplishments, losers

Losers losers losers losers losers losers

Captain Zero

(8,756 posts)
20. Maybe MSNBC should give him 15 minutes
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 03:05 PM
Nov 2022

Every day, but only if he speaks about other Republicans and which ones aren't any damn good.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
28. Imagine Rachel maddow, or Lawrence, or Ali Velshi, or Nicole Wallace having at him lol
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 03:35 PM
Nov 2022

Of course he would never go on MSNBC or any cable or network. Only softballs pitched at him, if that

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
44. Others have tried, but even if he grants an iterview, he'll walk out..
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 07:08 PM
Nov 2022

at the first chance..



Stahl is not exactly lightweight or leftie

EYESORE 9001

(29,466 posts)
11. We're gonna need more popcorn
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 02:33 PM
Nov 2022

Imagine if rump starts leaking kompromat - and you know damn well he’s got tons of it. Probably enough to make J. Edgar blush.

Jedi Guy

(3,426 posts)
36. Doubtful.
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 05:18 PM
Nov 2022

If he has the kind of kompromat you're suggesting they'd keep kissing his ass regardless of election results. These people care about only one thing: keeping power at all costs. None of them would risk that kind of thing leaking out and eroding their personal hold on power, midterm results be damned.

The only reason they ever latched onto Trump to begin with was to use him to increase their power. He's no longer useful in that regard and has become counterproductive, so the Great Abandoning has begun.

They will abandon him in droves with the exception of the True Believers, and Trump in his wounded fury will lash out and do as much damage as he can to all the rest on his way down. His political death rattle is going to seriously damage the GOP.

Couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch.

alterfurz

(2,672 posts)
13. Donald Trump will boil the Republican Party's pet rabbit in a pot...
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 02:43 PM
Nov 2022

...before he will let them ignore him. -- @MiddleAgeRiot

Torchlight

(6,355 posts)
14. I think he's a little man yelling at people so he feels important.
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 02:45 PM
Nov 2022

ineffectual, snide little man who only feels his true worth when he's puffing his chest and barking orders, never adding anything other than his own unique brand of self-importance.

Though there's a lot like him in the world, luckily not too many of them do anything other than complain, whine, and throw wee tantrums.

Boomerproud

(9,165 posts)
29. If they give him the power, yes. They could cut him off at the knees
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 03:47 PM
Nov 2022

if they had the courage to do so. January 6th was a signal to everyone, not just Democrats. DOJ get off your butts.

lame54

(39,230 posts)
30. I mean his party turning their backs on him...
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 03:54 PM
Nov 2022

Power is perception
If they push him away then ignore him he'll just be
Man yells at clouds

allegorical oracle

(6,222 posts)
23. That would be the best of all political worlds. The nutbags would stick with him, leaving more
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 03:16 PM
Nov 2022

"normal" Repugs and some Indies to vote for a DeSatan. Some Indies would still vote w/ the Dems. Splintering could work for Dems, imho.

 

brewens

(15,359 posts)
24. It would take a shit ton of money to keep Trump quiet and have to be secret probably.
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 03:23 PM
Nov 2022

Even if he agreed to shut up and go away, he can't be trusted. He could get right back in the middle of things, and they couldn't do anything about it.

canetoad

(20,283 posts)
25. Ali Velshi said, right at the beginning
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 03:24 PM
Nov 2022

That Trump is going to announce his 2024 run on Tuesday.

Is this true? I thought Trump said he will have a big announcement on Tuesday but did not mention a 2024 run. Has everyone inferred the wrong thing and the announcement will be something totally different?

Initech

(107,576 posts)
31. The GOP needs to burn! Donny can take his crazy conspiracy theorists and talk show hosts with him!
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 03:57 PM
Nov 2022

scipan

(2,981 posts)
34. What if they offered him a pardon after beating him in the primary
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 05:12 PM
Nov 2022

Remember though, he almost certainly has a self pardon in his pocket. Seems like this SCOTUS would accept that. Leaving only the state cases.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
37. Other day Al Sharpton pointed out that the threat of the MAGAs
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 05:24 PM
Nov 2022

burning the nation down (as opposed to tRump burning the party down) is clearly already past because they didn't even turn out to vote in needed numbers.

They utterly declined tRump's calls to get out of their armchairs around the time of January 6 also. Even most of the thousands who came to the Capitol to protest turned and left or moved back and watched as the violence began.

Of course, Der Leader wasn't on the midterms ballots and that could conceivably still make a big difference, but nevertheless the evaluation grabbed my attention.

stopdiggin

(15,068 posts)
45. mass demonstrations are over
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 07:08 PM
Nov 2022

recall the 'pitiful' convoy attempts? These things don't last too long when the rest of the world is calling you a bunch of morons. And, the small cadre of deluded 'militants' - that are actually willing to go out and do damage, or confront authority - are vanishingly thin. (which is not to say that we don't have a significant 'militant extremist' problem out there - just that the majority of them are not wedded to Trump, or his 'cause.')

Now .. there's still the 'dirty tricks' variety of sabotage - a la the denial of service type attacks flooding elections offices around the country with requests for 'records'. But - let's also remember that Trump is famously unwilling to foot the bill for any kind of national or grassroots type of effort or campaign. And - are the deep pockets, that are still out there, still willing to hitch their star to the defeated man-child?

I think Sharpton is dead on target here. And it's one of the reasons I have a problem with the "burn everything down' language. He doesn't have the resources, the ammo - or the following. Regardless the temper tantrum he might throw.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
51. That all seems extremely likely. I've been mostly expecting
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 11:10 AM
Nov 2022

that the perfect storm for the blood-red tsunami would fail to form and eventually mostly dissipate. Again. Eventually.

And now what comes next...?

Of course, tRump was never the whole, and he's never been the leader of the whole. Various RW powers. including RW plutocrats and the religious right, had decided democracy needed to go long before populist mania took control from them by elevating a depraved tRump. They've been accelerating their visible attacks on government since the 1990s into this century and have been able to use trumpist chaos to create enormous successes for themselves.

Why would they stop?

As of now, they have their own enormous personal powers (and are far wealthier than ever), have installed a supermajority on SCOTUS, and have powerful agents in governments at all levels -- and in control of many, plus the nation is still reeling under a fair amount of desirable, revolution-enabling chaos. And the MAGAs' radicalized, even nihilistic populist mania, far slower to ebb than to explode, means they will continue to be very grave threat and weapon for some time. I

So, we carry on. This election puts the Republicans farther from being able to call a constitutional convention to burn up our 1788 Constitution, but they have SCOTUS. I worry that America may be lulled into believing the GOP has regained its senses and the big threat is past. I'm wondering if SCOTUS will back off a bit on its aggressive RW judicial overthrow of what we've built over the past 230+ years to help lull the people or bull ahead like the anti-democracy extremists they are. Best clueless guess, the latter... It's unlikely we'll have the ability this term to re-form the high court, i.e., stop them.

stopdiggin

(15,068 posts)
52. and a lot of THAT is exteremely likely as well
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 04:48 PM
Nov 2022

I just don't see Trump as a cornerstone (or lodestone) of much of anything going forward. A 'useful idiot' on occasion to those with real scope and ambition. (well, we've already seen that) But either king or kingmaker? The man just simply doesn't have the depth - (on any level).

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
53. Yes. A useful idiot at most if they manage it.
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 07:17 PM
Nov 2022

They've benefited so much from the chaos and dismantling during his presidency, but they have to be concerned about who would control the mobs in the end. MAGAs want their leader to kidnap and even execute those who get in his way.

All in all, this would seem a good point for the big guys to return to their takeover through subversion of courts and government. IF they can.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,417 posts)
38. I think we all saw this coming...
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 05:25 PM
Nov 2022

He was always capable of splitting the party wide open, and he's doing it now. The MAGA loons will stay with him to the end. The Liz Cheney Republicans will be outnumbered. Even if they take The House, they'll have what? Maybe a 2 vote edge. MTG will immediately kick McCarthy in the balls, and it'll be a cluster fuck from beginning to end. The people will rapidly get tired of it, and get rid of them for good in '24. It'll be years before they ever see a majority again.
And the Dems need to let them do it.

Oh, and THANKS JOE!!!

Dave says

(5,334 posts)
39. What exactly can TFG do?
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 05:27 PM
Nov 2022

He’s not in power anymore. He doesn’t have the nuclear codes. Any secrets he was going to give away (sell) are probably long gone or are untouchable by him given the now watchful eyes of national security and law enforcement. He’s impotent.

Sure, he can tweet out a bunch of garbage embarrassing this and that politician, but other than inflicting embarrassment, what can he do?

stopdiggin

(15,068 posts)
46. exactly right.
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 07:12 PM
Nov 2022

a bunch of nasty tweets - a couple of (laughable) lawsuits ... And then what?

stopdiggin

(15,068 posts)
42. don't like the "burn everything down" terminology
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 06:38 PM
Nov 2022

because the man doesn't have the reins of power in his hands anymore. So he really can't. A spoiler, yes. And a lot of skeletons could come rattling out of the closet. (with the recipients being 98% conspirators and fellow grifters). To which I say, "What are we waiting for?" "Bring it on!"

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
43. I'm still counting on Garland
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 06:46 PM
Nov 2022

to nip this in the bud. Nobody talks like Donald might actually be sent to prison. Yeah, you can run for President while in jail, but it will be hard to do from SuperMax.

Donald has got a world of hurt in front of him. No wonder the GOP has turned on him; he's not a commodity that can be relied upon. How embarrassing to have your front runner hooked up at the podium after being indicted for espionage.

He's not getting out of this. It's not going away. He can't buy his way out of it. No Super PAC will save his ass. Running for Pres will not stop an indictment. He's living in a fantasy world. You can't steal classified docs and then claim it was all a paperwork management error. Nice try, Donald, but it won't work. You got caught.

If Garland does not indict him, then we will have cause to protest like nobody's business. THIS IS THE TRUE TEST OF OUR DEMOCRACY. What did Garland say? "Nobody is above the law." What did we say? "Nobody is above the law." What does Donald say? "I am an exception." Well, bullsh*t!

Get him, Garland! Keep him too busy running from court to court to campaign! We want Donald GONE!!

wiggs

(8,699 posts)
47. They all own each other. If one steps out of line, they need to fear for their own health,
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 07:31 PM
Nov 2022

reputations, freedom, and life.

If he truly knows that much about the connections between world oligarchs, foreign money in us elections, corruption, etc...he won't say a thing. And he's already told those who have compromat that he will stay in his lane no matter what he tells the press. He knows how the mob works.

He may deal in some small, pathetic gossip and tabloid secrets...but I doubt he'll get serious about major players including the NRA, RNC, the gop PTB, etc

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
48. Destroying the GQP even if it's done out of spite
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 07:34 PM
Nov 2022

Is the best thing that could happen to America. They can all go to hell.

roamer65

(37,818 posts)
49. I'll provide the can of gas and match if needed.
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 07:38 PM
Nov 2022


I would love to see the national GQP go the same route as CA-GQP.
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