Chuck Todd suggests "Democrats can't win if they're running against normal Republicans" :)

[speak easy]

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What do you say back?

[sop]

1. The GOP can't win its own base when they run "normal Republicans."

[marble falls]

6. Today's duzy award winner.

[IA8IT]

20. ++++++++++++++++++

[Mad_Machine76]

60. +1

Candidates who are not extreme enough can't win in the primaries and candidates who are too extreme can't win in general elections (in many districts/states).

[Cha]

71. Right! Tell Chuck Toad to put that in

his pipe and Smoke it!

[yardwork]

2. Ask Chuckie to point out a "normal" Republican.

I haven't seen one in a while.

[uponit7771]

11. +1, especially normal DC republicans

[Hortensis]

53. Including Chuckie. He's so invested in abnormal,

he doesn't know that's become the Republican version of normal.

[Lovie777]

3. STFU . . .....

[agingdem]

18. Chuck Todd, the asshole who raises assholery to a new level..

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Chuck, of both sides no push back GOP enabler fame, finds it necessary to equate the Dem win as a loss, is #126 as to why that blathering imbecile should be pulled from MTP and relocated to a basement in Bayonne, New Jersey podcasting to an audience of one...(my apologies to Bayonne)...

[marble falls]

4. Chuck's a braying asshole.

[SheltieLover]

5. The only time tfg told the truth: "If people are allowed to vote, [pukes] would never win."

Hence, the heavy gerrymandering.

[Aviation Pro]

7. Fuck Chuck

He’s a GQP collaborator.

[malaise]

8. Normal ReTHUGs- where can they be found?

These wee the best mid-term results in 90 yeats.
Biden nailed it with the Democracy speech and abortion rights. He also delivered big time on stuff that matters to ordinary folks.
Fuck you Fuckie Todd!

[secondwind]

27. Some Republicans voted Democrat, this time.

That’s what I’m hearing. Same for Independents. It’s almost as if everyone KNEW that we truly needed to win this time around, to save our democracy.

[Mr. Ected]

9. I'd ask him if the Dems were to blame for the GOP running fascists for office

It's not like we kept it a secret from them, you know.

[Ligyron]

66. A some Dems did support/contribute to rwnj in GOP primaries.

Figuring they’d never win in the midterm, which they didn’t.

Seems to have worked…

[arlyellowdog]

10. Guess it's the guy Chuck Todd sees in his mirror

Narcissist!

[Ray Bruns]

12. Chuck Todd can Go Fuck Himself

[JohnSJ]

13. What a stupid, but not surprising remark from Todd. What is a normal republican? The idiot doesn't

understand that a normal republican are those that supported trump, an authoritarian

Todd really isn’t a good journalist

It is his job to define what a normal republican is

Is a normal republican against abortion? Against environmental protections, against social security and Medicare, etc.

NBC really needs to replace him

Recall it was Todd who remarked that as a journalist, it wasn’t his job to call out false statements made by politicians in regard to blatantly false statements made about the ACA by republicans

[eShirl]

14. What Normal Republicans?

I don't see any.

[BeyondGeography]

15. 70+ percent of Republicans believe Trump's election lies

https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2022/70-percent-republicans-falsely-believe-stolen-election-trump/

No market for “normal” when voters are out of their fucking minds.

[Mr. Sparkle]

16. Their propaganda network is such a massive advantage for them

i dont think many in our party understand, by how much.

[Kid Berwyn]

17. Well, with Corporate McPravda giving them billions in free air time...

…Todd may be right. Let’s have publicly financed with free airtime and see what happens.

Asshole.

[marybourg]

19. Can't understand why anyone pays attention

to these people.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

21. The LAST of the "NORMAL REPUBLICANS " was John McCain.

Rest his soul.

I may not have agreed with much of his politics, but he stood on principle and had values. I respect that.

Today's crop of Republicans, , they crave and lust power.. Doing good for the people be damned.

[Meadowoak]

22. Why is Chuck Todd on tv?

[Blues Heron]

23. Pukes cant win without gerrymandering and the massively unfair EC

how does a Trump or a George Bush get to take office after receiving FEWER votes than the dem opponent? The electoral college is how. And it is just plain wrong and has completely effed over the country if not the planet.

[Mike Nelson]

24. I say...

... thanks, Chuck, for the revealing advice; you are a Republican advisor, and it's nice to see you out of the closet. Really, we always knew. Will you be resigning soon?

[Emile]

25. Todd is a right wing idiot!

[doc03]

26. That's good since there are no normal Republicans. nt

[ecstatic]

28. Normal republicans don't exist, but

if what he says is true, we have biased assholes like him to thank for it.

[rurallib]

29. Hey Chuck, The fascist, racist, mysoginst is the NORMAL Republican of today.

and they ran all over the place and got whupped.

[Vogon_Glory]

30. The "normal" Republicans are either dead or have been

sidelined. The last “normal” Republicans are a tiny minority like Mitt Romney. The rest of them are either Tea Party or MAGA loonies or craven opportunists like Marco Rubio. “Normal” Republicanism is going the same way the Ripon Society went, pushed towards extinction by greed-heads, ideologues, bigots and wanna-be cornfield Mussolinis.

EDIT: Normal is so OVER in the Republican Party.

[Freethinker65]

31. Todd is effectively admitting Republicans will continue to lose.

[MLAA]

32. Show me a normal Republican!

[karynnj]

33. He needs to define normal Republican

Many normal Republicans of his youth were pushed out of the party. Others left on their own accord. Jeffords of Vermont shifted in 2001 giving us the majority. Spector of PA shifted in 2009 giving us a super majority. Both of these men were long term established Republicans.

Go back further and the Republicans had people like John Heinz of PA, Javits in NY, Case in NJ, Percy in Illinois. All more liberal than the centrist Democrats of their day.

Who now is Todd's normal Republican? De Santis? Hawley? Rubio? Cotton? Ron Johnson? Pompeo? The Trump years tarnished all of them.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

34. That is NOT what Chris Todd "said."

Rather he asked Elizabeth Warren a question about whether she had concerns about running against "normal" Republicans (and he named two: Chris Sununu and Mike DeWine). Warren knocked the question out of the park.

Dishonestly framed threads are not helpful on this forum.

Here is what really happened:

Link to tweet

[Demsrule86]

42. I don't see how that is different...Chuck Todd belongs on Fox.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

45. You don't see the difference between asking a question and making a declarative statement?

Really?

And Todd did name two examples of "normal Republicans" in his question.

We are supposed to be a "reality-based" community.

[Mad_Machine76]

62. I don't know about Sununu

but how is Mike DeWine considered a "normal" Republican in a way that is supposed to be advantageous for him?

[Polybius]

81. He doesn't like Trump and he's not an election denier

I guess the bar is set low for what is normal these days.

[Mad_Machine76]

83. Yeah I guess so

[blm]

44. Warren answered perfectly.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

46. I agree wholeheartedly.

[speak easy]

54. "I am only asking a question" Tucker Carlson

edited the OP wording

[Just A Box Of Rain]

56. You are not there yet.

Why start dishonestly framed OPs?

[speak easy]

63. Because I believe these questions ARE statements.

'I am only asking a question' cuts no ice with me.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

64. So that gives you the privilege of inserting your perception of "reality"

in place of what actually occurred?

I don't think so.

[speak easy]

67. "Do you have a concern that ...

Crime is out of control
Christians are being cancelled
Democrats can't win

Putting something in a question does not change the content.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

69. The job of reporters is to ask questions.

Falsely framing OPs on this forum isn't a good look.

[speak easy]

73. Do you have a concern that ...

Vaccines are killing more people than COVID.

Just asking the question. Todd is CNN's 'moderate' Tucker Carlson.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

74. Not an excuse to dishonestly frame threads.

[speak easy]

75. It was more carelessness than dishonesty -

but I did edit the OP after reading your comment, and going back to the transcript that I posted here earlier.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217366477

[Just A Box Of Rain]

76. You "edited" to say "suggests," as opposed to saying that Todd asked Warren a question.

A question that Warren knocked out of the park.

[speak easy]

78. OK.

Did Chuck Todd say " Democrats can’t win if they’re running against normal Republicans"

Yes he did He absolutely did. The OP was factually correct. Now you can say that it was misleading because Todd made the statement posed as a question

Do you have a concern that Democrats can’t win if they’re running against normal Republicans, kind of like Chris Sununu or Mike DeWine — people like that?

And you would have a point if I accepted that Todd is a journalist asking questions, but I do not. Todd is a propagandist, spewing GOP talking points under the cover of just asking questions. "Democrats can’t win if they’re running against normal Republicans". He said it and he meant it"

[Just A Box Of Rain]

79. No, I think a fair-minded journalist could look at the spread in

Ohio between DeWine and Vance and in New Hampshire, with Sununu (who won the Governor's race) vs the extremist MAGAt Don Bolduc (who lost the Senate race to Maggie Hassan) and reasonably question whether Trump-backed candidates hurt the Republicans.

Does anyone doubt it?

And Elizabeth Warren answered perfectly.

[speak easy]

80. My issue is Chuck Todd himself.

He is a transparent mouthpiece for the GOP.

Link to tweet

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The man is no fair-minded Journalist. And I am not fooled when he poses todays RNC talking points as questions.

EOM

[Just A Box Of Rain]

82. Clearly you feel that way. Which is fine. Have your opinions.

But claiming that what was offered as a question was instead a declarative statement by Todd is an example of bias intruding on an honest description of what took place in his segment with Warren.

I'm sure many people who are happy with the results of the midterms do wonder about what might have happened if fewer MAGA extremists/election deniers had represented the Republicans in 2022.

[Historic NY]

35. Describe normal republican they left decades ago UpChuck

[ck4829]

36. That's a Republican Party problem, not a Democratic Party problem.

[tinrobot]

37. Dude, pay attention. We just won against normal Republicans.

The average (i.e. "normal&quot Republican is an election-denying lunatic.

Have you not been watching the news, Chuck?

[hatrack]

38. Democrats also can't win if they're running against passenger pigeons . . .

.

[ananda]

39. ROFL -- There are no normal Republicans.

It's an oxymoron, moron!

[Demsrule86]

40. There is no such thing as 'normal' Republicans...they all vote the same way.

[CTyankee]

41. You can go now. You're dismissed. And don't even THINK of coming back!

[patphil]

43. And just what is a "normal republican"?

A traditional normal republican isn't far enough to the right of center to win a republican only primary. The new mainstream republican would never tolerate a traditional "normal republican".
It therefore suffices to say that the republican candidates in 2022 were the new normal for the republican party, and they didn't fare all that well against Democrats.
It took some serious gerrymandering in several states to engineer what still is not established as a majority in the House.
It took some serious attempts at voter suppression in several states to produce an almost certain loss of only one republican seat in the Senate.
Considering what usually happens in a midterm election, I'd say Democrats showed they can win in an election against what now passes for a normal republican.

[Dirty Socialist]

47. I consider Liz Cheney a real Republican

She got primaried

[BradAllison]

48. Chuck Foad is one step away from broadcasting on the traffic channel

He and cryptkeeper Andrea should find their own audience to bore to death.

[JHB]

49. There hasn't been a "normal Republican" since the 80s...

...when conservatives finished snuffing out the Rockefeller Republicans.

[Azathoth]

50. No True Scotsman fallacy

The Republicans who make up a majority (or at least a substantial minority) of the GOP are, by definition, "normal Republicans."

The sane ones Chuck suggests Democrats can't beat are the outliers.

[MagickMuffin]

51. Chucky, republicans can't win fair and square without gerrymandering

Doesn’t matter their level of normalcy!

[Elwood P Dowd]

52. Ike, the last normal republican, died in 1969. (nt)

[Deminpenn]

55. If anyone has more slavish devotion to the conventional

wisdom than Chuck Todd, I don't know who that might be.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

57. Chuck Todd is not a normal journalist

He's more of a simpering ass kisser.

[Cha]

72. Boom. There ya Go!

[Mad_Machine76]

58. Are there any "normal" Republicans even left

What do they look like? Are there any current serving Republicans other than Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger not beholden to Donald Trump and/or have non-extremist positions when it comes to LGBTQ rights, abortion, etc?

There may be a few non-MAGA Republicans out there but that doesn't mean that there not still extremists.

[pfitz59]

59. WTF is a 'normal' Republican?

They are all awful

[PuraVidaDreamin]

61. Ha! Like Dubya Weapons of Mass Destruction...

Are they over here?
Are they under this couch?

[FlyingPiggy]

65. Just when I didn't think Chuck todd could be any more out of touch

And ridiculous, he goes and proves me wrong. Seriously, WHY does he still have a job on air?

[Cha]

68. I say FO, Fucky Toad.. Why wouldn't

Democracy Wiin over Fascism?

Name one GD gop who doesn't fucking Gaslight.. what the Fuck do they have better than Democrats?

Did you see this on one of his shows his morning?

He's been pissing me off for years.. this is just the latest asshole thing to come out of his stupid mouth.

Not surprised.

[GoCubsGo]

70. They DID run against "normal" Republicans.

THIS is the new "normal" for the GOP, whether or not they and Upchuck want to admit it. The inmates have taken over the asylum. They have been declining for years, and all Trump did was accelerate it. The GOP of whch Schmuckie speaks is no longer, and from everything I'm seeing, they're so fucked up, they don't recognize where they went wrong.

[lame54]

77. Good thing there are none of those left

[LetMyPeopleVote]

84. Chuck Todd is a corporate republican stooge FIRE HIM!

Link to tweet

[maxrandb]

85. Maxrandb suggests "Chuck Todd couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the directions were on the bottom"

Sigh, guess I will post this again:

If Chuck Todd were only responsible for reporting on obituaries in some Dumbfuckistan, 'Murika shithole:

Gertrude Alflin, 86, passed away peacefully in her sleep. Some say she was a woman of tremendous faith, attending church every morning. Others say that she was really a cruel woman who hated her family. Reports are that she became more of a homebody when the love of her life, Bernard, passed away several years ago, although some have questioned her whereabouts at the time of his death. In lieu of flowers, the family have asked that you play a Bingo Card in her honor at the Tuesday Afternoon VFW Post Bingo Game, but some people say that this would only encourage gambling.

She'll be laid to rest at Shady Grove Cemetery and Drive-Thru on Monday, although some have said it will be Wednesday."

"Back to you Andrea..."