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Mr.Mystery

(185 posts)
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 06:08 PM Nov 2022

Who was the worst Republican president after Nixon?

Before you say Trump, consider how bad Reagan, Papa Doc, and Baby Doc Bush were.

TRUMP--

* minimized Covid threat and 1 million Americans died

* gave vent to the worst id impulses of the American psyche: enshrined selfishness, encouraged violence and race baiting

* ran roughshod over legal and civil traditions such as conceding election loss, protection of secret documents, and not fomenting a riot when one loses and election.

* used the office of the Presidency to enrich himself by bribes and graft--foreigners shoveled money into Trump-owned businesses, he charged the secret service to stay in his hotels etc.

* refused to set up blind trusts and never revealed tax returns as promised

* uttered over 30 thousand confirmed LIES while President

* spent some 300 days over four years on the golf course, at a cost of 144 million dollars

BABY DOC BUSH

* unlike Trump's claims about Biden, Bush actually DID steal a US Presidential election by not allowing a recount in Florida, where he technically "won" by 537 votes out of 6 million cast

* ignored Clinton's warnings about terrorism resulting in 9-11

* watched Bin Laden and his terrorist cabal escape capture for eight years

* cynically manipulated the country's outrage about 9-11 to gin up an invasion of Iraq

* killed directly or indirectly 200 thousand Iraqi civilians to steal their oil

* spent 1.6 TRILLION US dollars in Iraq

* ignored housing bubble which collapsed the US and world economy

REAGAN

* cut a deal with Iranian terrorists holding American hostages to not release those hostages until after Reagan took office, to help insure his victory. They released the hostages on Jan. 20, 1981, the same day that Reagan was sworn in.

* later, re-paid these Islamic terrorists by shipping them arms to oppress, imprison, and murder their citizens and start a war with Iraq, and used the money to fund a right-wing death squad (the Contras) in Nicaragua. Ignored evidence that Iran used poison gas in Halabja and vetoed sanctions Congress placed on Iran.

* ignored the AIDS crisis which killed about 100 thousand Americans in the 1980's

* invaded Grenada, which put the US back into the League of Big Country Imperialists (after the sobering lesson of Vietnam)

* put US troops into Lebanon until 200 Marines were killed by a suicide bomber, proving that the suicide bombing is effective against us -- which led to two decades of suicide bombing attacks against the US including the embassy bombings in Africa, the US Cole attack, and of course 9-11.

* spent 1.35 TRILLON dollars on the military in his first four years, or 6,000 dollars per person. This sent the National Debt soaring after it had been steadily going down since WW2.

* despite the massive increase in military spending, he cut taxes on the rich ( "trickle down economics" ) while raising taxes on the working class

* signed into law federal income taxes on Social Security for the first time in its history

* crushed the PATCO (Air Traffic Controller's union) strike by bringing in scabs and signaling to his rich, corporate backers that union-busting was now perfectly legal

So . . . who's the worst one of them all?

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Who was the worst Republican president after Nixon? (Original Post) Mr.Mystery Nov 2022 OP
we don't yet know the full extent of Trump's misdeeds and crimes. lapfog_1 Nov 2022 #1
My list.. yourout Nov 2022 #2
excellent Skittles Nov 2022 #3
This NewHendoLib Nov 2022 #4
Excellent analysis. nt Mr.Mystery Nov 2022 #9
I would agree with that liberal N proud Nov 2022 #19
Spot on! 11 Bravo Nov 2022 #32
My ranking below - walkingman Nov 2022 #5
Nixon was bad, but I'd regard Reagan, W, and Trump as continuing and struggle4progress Nov 2022 #6
Trump and it's not even close ITAL Nov 2022 #7
Thank you nycbos Nov 2022 #16
Trump is without doubt the worst president IMHO. Demsrule86 Nov 2022 #8
Any Republican since Eisenhower faces stiff competition. Turbineguy Nov 2022 #10
Reagan. Hands down. AngryOldDem Nov 2022 #11
Gaming elections in South and Central America were learning labs OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2022 #13
They're all contemptible Mr. Ected Nov 2022 #12
Nixon was a petty thief compared to trmp spanone Nov 2022 #14
All the people you named are assholes. nycbos Nov 2022 #15
Without any doubt to me...Bush Junior. He killed hundreds of thousands of people in Iraq, and tens Stuart G Nov 2022 #17
Most notorious grifter: Trump Ferrets are Cool Nov 2022 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Baked Potato Nov 2022 #20
So Many Choices DET Nov 2022 #21
Where will the GOP find someone worse than Trump? ThoughtCriminal Nov 2022 #22
Trick question, all three RANDYWILDMAN Nov 2022 #23
Chester Arthur MichMan Nov 2022 #24
Is this a trick question? elias7 Nov 2022 #25
That's like asking which is worse: GoCubsGo Nov 2022 #26
Trump. Celerity Nov 2022 #27
If history is allowed to write the truth all 4 will go down in shame. Boomerproud Nov 2022 #28
We can all agree that Poppy Bush was by far the best Republican President of the past 50 years Polybius Nov 2022 #29
Andrew Johnson, Trump and W Jose Pendleton Nov 2022 #30
I have Buchanan lower than Andrew Johnson ITAL Nov 2022 #34
Reagan because he did all his damage Deminpenn Nov 2022 #31
Even got the Democratic House to go along with all of it. MichMan Nov 2022 #33
I think you listed them in the right order - and TFG's crimes are clearly "worse that Watergate." Rhiannon12866 Nov 2022 #35

walkingman

(10,514 posts)
5. My ranking below -
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 06:19 PM
Nov 2022

From worst to bad -

Worst - Reagan. A totally corrupt POTUS who is second only to Trump in indicments during his tenure and set the stage for the GOP that evolved over the next 40 years.

Almost as bad - Bush II. Destroyed Texas politics as Governor and led to Perry and Abbott (his cronies). A war criminal who ignored the Saudi's participation in 9/11 and then went after Iraq based on lies he pushed. He almost sent us into a DEPRESSION.

TFG - a con man and clown who is just a disgusting person. Has caused massive distrust in our elections based on his lies and refusal to admit defeat. His only positive attribute is he made it clear that America has some real morons in the GOP.

ITAL

(1,280 posts)
7. Trump and it's not even close
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 06:21 PM
Nov 2022

Attempting to overthrow the government like he did...that literally trumps (no puns intended) anything else done by any president ever. The absolute worst.

AngryOldDem

(14,180 posts)
11. Reagan. Hands down.
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 06:25 PM
Nov 2022

A lot of the stuff we’re dealing with today — from the Christofascists who got a seat at the political table by his legitimizing of the Moral Majority to the bogus economic theory of trickle down…

Reagan is to blame for all of it.

EDIT. Not excusing Trump at all. That fucker is one of the worst humans ever and is in a class by himself.

OAITW r.2.0

(31,743 posts)
13. Gaming elections in South and Central America were learning labs
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 06:33 PM
Nov 2022

for destroying democratic elections in the US today.

That said, it's a 3 way tie between Trump/Junior/Reagan as the worst President in recent US history. In retrospect, Nixon was a distant 4th place.

Mr. Ected

(9,713 posts)
12. They're all contemptible
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 06:28 PM
Nov 2022

But Trump represents the greatest threat to democracy of all of them. The other guys were shooting at our torso. With Trump, it's all head shots.

nycbos

(6,709 posts)
15. All the people you named are assholes.
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 06:36 PM
Nov 2022

None of them showed open contempt for the institutions of American democracy. None of them incited a mob to attack the capital to overturn an election.

Bush Junior actually visited a mosque in the DC area a few days after 9/11. He wanted to reach out to American Muslims after the horrible events of the day to say you are Americans.

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
17. Without any doubt to me...Bush Junior. He killed hundreds of thousands of people in Iraq, and tens
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 06:41 PM
Nov 2022

of thousands of us who fought in the war... And don't forget the disabled ...........My Senator Tammy Ducksworth is
disabled from the Iraq War. That was horrendous, and for what purpose? You tell me....:

Ferrets are Cool

(22,607 posts)
18. Most notorious grifter: Trump
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 06:45 PM
Nov 2022

Most inhuman: Bush...ie Katrina and Iraq

Worst for America: Reagan

They all were horrid people and horrendous pResidents.

Response to Mr.Mystery (Original post)

DET

(2,418 posts)
21. So Many Choices
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 06:57 PM
Nov 2022

The worst has to be Trump. But I can never forgive Reagan for deliberately ignoring the AIDS crisis because ‘it only affects gay people’. Of course, Trump topped that by not only ignoring the COVID pandemic but deliberately undermining the people who were trying to help, resulting in one million deaths.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,709 posts)
22. Where will the GOP find someone worse than Trump?
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 06:58 PM
Nov 2022

I ask because if that person exists, they have a lock on getting their nomination.

Every election cycle, it's a contest to find someone that can lower the bar closer to the center of Hell.

RANDYWILDMAN

(3,139 posts)
23. Trick question, all three
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 07:05 PM
Nov 2022

The two actors are both cruel, frauds and puppets and JR bush wasn't even the winner and he fudged up the SC quite good.


TFG pissed me off the most, cause Hillary !

Bush led us down the path we are on now.

Reagan dehumanized AIDS, our first pandemic and created THOSE people , you know why they are, those who have no compassion for anybody different then they are, now we call them republicans back them it was people with compassion and people who are homosexual. He pulled this crap straight from the nazi's and his cruelness won 49 states, what were my grandparents and parents thinking...


GoCubsGo

(34,755 posts)
26. That's like asking which is worse:
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 07:23 PM
Nov 2022

Ebola, rabies, or brain-eating amoeba? Or, shit, turds, or feces? That being said, Dumbya is a war criminal. He's responsible for 1 million deaths from the Iraq war, alone, along with 4.5 million displaced people, and trillions of dollars stolen/pissed away. Then there's the Afghanistan War, his incompetent handling of Hurricane Katrina, his ignoring the warnings that led to 9/11, and the near depression he and his cronies cause. Reagan and Trump were horrific, but Dumbya holds the edge by a hair.

Polybius

(21,639 posts)
29. We can all agree that Poppy Bush was by far the best Republican President of the past 50 years
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 07:35 PM
Nov 2022

What's ironic is that his approval rate was the lowest. He wasn't good, but didn't deserve a 28% approval rating.

ITAL

(1,280 posts)
34. I have Buchanan lower than Andrew Johnson
Mon Nov 14, 2022, 09:33 PM
Nov 2022

And Trump is lower than that. As bad as Bush may have been, he doesn't belong with those three IMHO. Trump tried to over throw the government. Buchanan let the government fall apart and did nothing to keep it together. Johnson botched Reconstruction.

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