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[SheltieLover]

1. Why?

[gab13by13]

2. Why did 20 Republicans vote to confirm him?

[oxymoron]

3. Good point.

[uponit7771]

11. Because MAGA doesn't want what America is selling, that's why they'll never see anything done here

... in this country as Independent or fair unless their lord and savior is doing it.

[maxrandb]

4. Unfortunately for Ms Wine-Banks

We don't make legal decisions in the United States based on whether, or not, Donny Dipshit supporters consider it "fair", or "independent".

The AG is doing what he is doing because that's what the Constitution and hundreds of years of judicial rules, regulations and standards tells him to do.

As much as we all would like to see Donny Short Fingers thrown under the prison 12 months ago, our country requires at least one political party stand for judicial precedent.

NY is rightfully ripping his corrupt business organization down to the studs.

GA is rightfully doing a criminal prosecution for his crimes in that state.

This will NOT slow anything down, or require the Special Prosecutor to "start from scratch". The evidence that DOJ has collected will be turned over, and it may take a day for the SP to go over it.

The Watergate SP didn't start over at interviewing the guys that broke into the DNC.

I swear, as a guy who yells at the microwave to "hurry-up" cooking my frozen lasagna, we have become such an instant gratification society.

Donny Dipshit is going to go down and will be held accountable for the first time in his miserable life.

In the meantime, the more the American people see his stupid face anus, the more votes the Retrumplicans lose.

[GoCubsGo]

16. Thank you. And, before he goes down,

he will be spending many a sleepless night stressing out over not only this, but what Fani Willis and Tish James drop on him. This Special Counsel drags out his misery even longer, and I am okay with that, even though I'd much rather see that bloated, orange fuck indicted now.

[Escurumbele]

20. "This Special Counsel drags out his misery even longer" what we need to understand is that the

criminal mind acts very different from the normal mind, and in trump's case he truly believes he is going to get away with all the crime he has committed, there is no doubt in his mind that he is going to walk away from it just fine, and he thinks that way because for one he is a narcissist, nothing can touch him, and two, is there any reason you can think of why he should not think this way? He has committed crimes that other people would already be in jail for, and he still is running around free to announce running for president...

Do you think he is worried? No, he is not, he believes this is all exciting and he cannot wait for getting out of everything with maybe a slap on the wrist and he will pull his pants down and moon us all. He is not worried, and he is sleeping well, and now with te "Special Prosecutor" dragging this even longer, why should he worry? Just like Alfred E. Newman, "What? Me worry?"...that's trump.

[Escurumbele]

17. If I interpret her message correctly, she feels it is a waste of time because the prosecutors

that have been working on those investigations already have a leg up on the new special prosecutor, and most probably already have enough to indict the SOB, so now comes a "special prosecutor" to move things back and waste time and money. I am sure trump is delighted with the new delay the new special prosecutor will bring to the investigation, he must be saying "why didn't I request a special prosecutor myself? Good job Garland!"

By now many of us have stopped believing in Garland, I hope he proves us wrong.

Also, I believe she is referring to Garland when she says "no trump supporter..." because she feels Garland made this move to show trumpists that he is unbiased, and guess what? trumpsists already hate Garland, so IT IS A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY.

[maxrandb]

26. True Donny Dipshit supporters make up about 20-30% of his voters

This is NOT for them. They are too far gone and devoid of any redeeming qualities.

But, it is important to the remaining Donny Dipshit voters that may still respect the rule of law and functioning democracy.

Look, there is going to be a shitload of clean-up to do when the fucked up Donnie Shit for Brains era finally is sent to the garbage heap of history. We are going to need as many folks a possible on deck to put this country back on course.

[Wingus Dingus]

5. Why do I care what trump supporters think?

This isn't about politics.

[oxymoron]

7. Wut?

She is no Trump supporter.

[Wingus Dingus]

8. ...

"No Trump supporter will see anyone as independent or fair to Trump."

[uponit7771]

12. +1, some are going into hyper defense mode

[Escurumbele]

18. Do you know who she is?

[Escurumbele]

22. Garland cares, I believe she said that thinking about Garland who seems to want to be seen

as non-partisan.

[Wingus Dingus]

38. I think it's good for DOJ to appear non-partisan, because this shouldn't be political.

Nothing will ever satisfy the MAGAts, but that doesn't necessarily mean appointing Smith is a bad idea, either. I'm seeing mixed reactions, so I'm not automatically opposed to this appointment.

[Takket]

6. exactly. give your evidence to a grand jury and get the fucker indicted.

and stop worry about what rethugs are going to think. here's a hint: THEY HATE YOU.

[oxymoron]

9. Exactly. I don't understand the need.

[uponit7771]

13. THIS !! 👉🏾👉🏾👉🏾 ".. here's a hint: THEY HATE YOU.."

[inthewind21]

10. I admire

Jill but, has she forgot the special counsel appointed to the Watergate investigation that SHE was part of?

[uponit7771]

14. With Watergate it was less than a year after crimes were found. I think that's the part that needs

... to be addressed with this SC.

[republianmushroom]

15. Nailed it

[Beastly Boy]

19. I hope Ms Banks doesn't consider DOJ's committment to impartiality

a waste of time.

Because if DOJ fails to maintain that, DOJ becomes worthless, or worse.

[JCMach1]

23. How about a spine to prosecute crimes. They might find that useful

[Beastly Boy]

25. Have you looked into DOJ record of prosecuting crimes?

Something tells me you are only looking into DOJ prosecuting the crimes of your interest. This amounts to a tiniest portion of crimes prosecuted by DOJ, and gives no clue of the size and strength of DOJ's spine

[onecaliberal]

30. Have you looked into how they prosecute other top secret document theft cases?

[Beastly Boy]

41. This confirms that you are only looking into DOJ prosecuting the crimes of your interest

in order to determine the strength of their spine. Like I said, a tiny portion of their record. Creates a great deal of doubt in the accuracy of your perspective.

[onecaliberal]

43. This confirms that you cannot accept that the DOJ is not treating dump the way they HAVE

treated everyone else who ripped off top secret documents. Not to mention there is no one on the planet that DOJ would be negotiating for 18 months with to get said documents back. Ask Reality Winner.

[Beastly Boy]

44. The entire content of your reply (23) was, and I quote:

How about a spine to prosecute crimes. They might find that useful

No description of what crimes, no hint of limits to the types of crime you are talking about. I challenged you to look at DOJ record of prosecuting crimes. You refused, and instead brought up only the crimes you were willing to consider in making your faulty assessment of the strength of DOJ's spine. I pointed out that this constitutes your refusal to accurately assess the strength of DOJ's spine. Now you are telling me that I cannot accept your refusal to asses DOJ based on the totality of their prosecution.

DUH! That was my point to begin with, and you are not addressing it!

If your purpose is to play meaningless games, count me out. I am done with this nonsense.

[onecaliberal]

45. You must be talking to someone else. Please read my reply,

The crimes are stealing documents from the American government. You know the documents recovered by the FBI. The lies he told the FBI when they were asking for the papers back.

That is only one example of 20 I can think of off the top of my head.

Give me a fucking break. My comment was 30.

[JCMach1]

31. I just know they are punting a timely prosecution which ends up

As both a political and a prosecutorial loss.

Lose/lose...

We are already prosecuting Oath Keepers for sedition and conspiracy.

If the Special Counsel gets a prosecutionnin before the election cycle, I will glad eat my words.

But, mark my words, the DOJ is trying to bury it with these actions.

[Beastly Boy]

42. Likewise, the knowledge you claim is of dubious factual foundation

The parameters of "timely prosecution" are not defined in law or precedent. It is amorphous. Anyone is free to define it, as well as its consequences, as they wish.

I've heard of DOJ trying to bury "it" ever since Garland became AG (the definition of "it" itself has been very fluid: from indicting anyone at all to imminent imprisonment of Trump), but so far the DOJ seems to have been so incompetent in burying the "it" of any given day, it only grows in prominence.

[JCMach1]

21. She is correct. DOJ slow walk has accomplished nothing

[ancianita]

35. No one here knows enough to call what the DOJ's been doing a "slow walk." Just the daily

scope of its reported work is monumental. https://www.justice.gov

Not to mention the hundreds of convictions and mountains of evidence it's obtained over the Jan 6 events.

No one knows how much it's accomplished re FL man.

[ancianita]

24. She is incorrect. Jack Smith already works for the DOJ and who cares what Trump supporters see.

That was then. This is now. This is 100 times bigger and harder than Watergate.

He graduated from Harvard Law School and joined the New York County District Attorney's office in 1994 after graduation.
He then joined the United States Attorney's office in Brooklyn, where he prosecuted the police officers who sodomized Abner Louima.
From 2008 to 2010 he worked for the Office of the Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, overseeing war crime investigations.[1]
In 2010, Smith was put in charge of the DOJ's Public Integrity Section.[2]
He spent five years as chief of the PIS, where he prosecuted Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell, U.S. Representative Rick Renzi, and New York Assemblymember Sheldon Silver.
He became an Assistant United States Attorney in the Middle District of Tennessee.
He became the acting United States Attorney at the beginning of the presidency of Donald Trump, succeeding David Rivera, and resigned effective September 2017 after the nomination of Donald Q. Cochran.[3]


Smith became the vice president and head of litigation for Hospital Corporation of America in 2017.[4] He was named the chief prosecutor for the International Criminal Court (ICC) in The Hague, investigating war crimes committed in Kosovo.[5][6] He prosecuted Salih Mustafa.[7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Smith_(lawyer)


The only thing that gives me one second's pause is that he was acting US State Attorney under Trump for nine months. Other than that, he looks solid.

[TheRickles]

32. VP of HCA stands out. They're the for-profit behemoth carving out America's health care system.

[ancianita]

34. What bearing does that have on this case. Nothing.

His background more than overrides your implications.

[TheRickles]

36. Exactly my point. Given all the other laudable places he's worked, this one is a surprise.

I really don't know what to make of it, so I wasn't trying to imply anything. Just stating that it's puzzling to me, given that the rest of his resume exudes integrity.

[ancianita]

37. Well, what do you make of his overall body of legal work? It "exudes integrity." Glad we agree.

[oxymoron]

28. God let's hope not.

[orangecrush]

29. That's for sure

[Justice matters.]

39. Yep. I remember "written" answers instead of in-person interrogations...

And when the criminals didn't "like" the written questions, it was "lies on papers" all over, and zero consequences.

The spineless "justice" two-speeds farce: Pretending to be "fair" is The Laughing Stock Of The World.

[GuppyGal]

40. This isn't about convincing any dump supporters of anything !!!!!!!!