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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBiden well on his way to being the best president in US History, because he
was the president we needed during these difficult times.
His positive poll numbers are over 70%. And there are probably lots of reasons for this to happen. The last time I have seen something like this happened during Bill Clinton's presidency when the House wanted him impeached. Almost in direct response to the House's desire to send Clinton packing in disgrace, his poll numbers went up to 67%. I think some of Biden's meteoric poll numbers are also in response to the new Republican House's announcement that they're going to try to make Biden's presidency weak by investigating everything that Biden loves. Major, beware. They're coming for you next!
But, Biden's term will be remembered as the turning point, where good people put country before whatever other reason that Republicans float to win their votes at the last minute. They're good at fearmongering, using racist tropes. They're also good at promising lower taxes, though, by now people are catching on that the money is fleeting. Not like what Democrats promise with long-term safety nets like social security, medicare/medicaid, better wages etc. It's a difference that Democrats can and should trumpet louder, in my opinion, but I guess we're keeping our powder dry, timing it prior to the next election.
I just feel, that the media is getting it, especially by reporting these gun shootings, and showing the testimonials from the survivors. It really is gripping and raw. And gun control is going to turn into a major issue for the next election. Especially when the shooters are being connected to the Republican hate agenda.
I do see a pattern here. Just like in sales, the consumer has to see a need before they're sold. The incredible circumstances that we're living under, created by a major division in our country, generated a need that most voters could not ignore. We won this last midterm election because the Democrats promised to protect freedoms that many of us took for granted. The Roe decision was the obvious voter issue. But there were others. i.e. How America should function was the major one for me, because it would define the identity of this country for the remainder of my lifetime. Who gets to select the electors was one of those self-determining technicalities. Democrats believed the voters should decide. Republican intellectuals twisted their logic and shoved their heads up their rectum to come up with the conclusion that Republican controlled State legislators should have the right to toss the decision of the people, and the State Legislature should make the selection. We would have lost the United States as we grew up to know it, if they had succeeded.
I don't think it's possible to exaggerate, here. We dodged a bullet.
The same issues that pushed us forward in the midterms, will still be there for the next election. And they will continue to be a concern until we pass laws that can protect all of us from Republican Taliban-style leadership. No doubt that we need better representation in Congress to pass the kind of laws that Republicans want to take away. We need to make our freedoms bullet proof.
So, the sad thing is that we will pick up steam with more media attention on the testimonials of survivors. Not just from gun shootings, but the misery created by the draconian anti-abortion State laws. And, the best we can hope for from the terrible human toll, is that we have clear issues that voters are convinced that only the Democrats can handle.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,130 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)What a sorry shame that in our country right now, decency is such a rare commodity.
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,700 posts)And, of course, if the Democrats like him, he's going to easily run for a second term:
https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3854
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)I need a little good vibes today.
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)Joe Biden was made for these times.
He is the perfect antidote to toxic populism and an actual progressive (one who affects positive change).
We are fortunate.
PatSeg
(47,405 posts)for this moment, though I'm sure he thought his time had already passed him by. Turns out there still was a place in history for him, just a bit later than he'd anticipated. I am so grateful that he was there when he was most needed.
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)I love Joe Biden. And I think history will judge him well.
PatSeg
(47,405 posts)Over the years, the media often has treated him poorly, but I am quite sure historians will document the real man.
50 Shades Of Blue
(9,976 posts)PatSeg
(47,405 posts)After the first two years, there is usually a huge letdown, but in Biden's case, things just got progressively better.
former9thward
(31,984 posts)More difficult than a Civil War where 500,000 people died? I don't think so. More difficult that a Great Depression which ravaged the country for a decade followed by a World War for the survival of Western democracy? I don't think so. More difficult than the founding of the country where its stability hung by a thread? I don't think so.
You are mixing poll numbers for some reason. The Clinton numbers of 67% were of all Americans. The Biden 70% number is just of Democrats who are about 35% of the voting population. Big difference.
Big Blue Marble
(5,067 posts)The OP is correct. These are extremely difficult times. President Biden is threading through multiple
crises with the skills and acumen that few have. We are on the verge of losing our democracy. Our government
and our capitol have been violently attacked. We could easily be on the verge of nuclear disaster in Europe and
slip in a third world war. We are slowly emerging from a worldwide pandemic that has taken the lives of over
1,000,000. And our world faces it's most dangerous and threatening crisis ever with climate
instability. History will see this as a perilous time. I am one who is deeply grateful that Joesph R. Biden
has sacrificed his later years to guide us through these times.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)He is and will continue to be a very effective president. Everyone including the GOP and the media makes the mistake of underestimating Biden...don't fuck with a Biden.
peppertree
(21,624 posts)Which is saying a lot. That was 14 presidencies ago.
Emrys
(7,233 posts)Among other factors, I recall some of the speeches he gave to bereaved service families, and was impressed with his emotional intelligence, gaffes and all.
I grade him on a curve, as I did Obama, bearing in mind he is the American President, hence there are lots of inbuilt things that go with the territory that aren't going to be easy for me to thole, but then we don't live in an ideal world and he has to work with what he has. The trajectory is way more positive than negative.
I was sorry he didn't run in the election immediately following his term as VP, but understood his reasons, what with the family problems that were going on, not least the recent bereavement. I also didn't think he wanted to run directly against Clinton, probably for a number of reasons.
I was delighted when he threw his hat in the ring to challenge TFG. I figured of all the possible Democratic candidates, he could take him on and take him out, and so it proved. I saw quite a number of (ex-)Republican never-Trumpers (Rick Wilson etc.) who early on said they'd vote heartily for Biden, so I figured he had an edge in some unexpected quarters.
His age was a factor - I'm sure he acknowledges it because he's certainly not stupid - but given his track record and experience getting legislation through Congress, I suspected he'd be much more than the safe pair of hands I felt the US (and the rest of the world) needed after the TFG debacles. And he's not disappointed me.
LymphocyteLover
(5,643 posts)Such an awesome man at the right place and time.
And in 2020, my wife saw the appeal before I did, I have to say.
Emrys
(7,233 posts)when there was a storm in a teacup about his having supposedly plagiarized UK Labour leader Neil Kinnock in a speech about being the first in his family to go to university. It seemed a ridiculous fuss at the time, but it scuppered his early chances of a run at the presidency. He did a lot as a Senator, not least VAWA, and was on the right side of many issues, not least Iraq, where he didn't want to go in, but felt he had to support the military once committed, and if his vision of a post-war Iraq had been put into action, that part of the world might be a bit less volatile now.
I watched him closely as VP. I think his stalwart support of Obama didn't go unnoticed among the Black community, and I certainly paid heed, and he seemed to offer encouragement (e.g. on healthcare) and nudge Obama's hand in a positive way at times (e.g. equal marriage).
It's rare to have someone who was at one time renowned as pretty much the poorest politician in Washington take such high office. Meanwhile, Mitch is as rich as Croesus on the back of being a career politician with a supposedly fixed, if not ungenerous, income, and has achieved nothing positive for society at large.
LymphocyteLover
(5,643 posts)LymphocyteLover
(5,643 posts)or anything else in his closet so we won't have any stupid investigations going bananas over irrelevant BS.
Hamlette
(15,411 posts)Clinton's was of everyone.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)the most decent, sincere person you will ever see in politics. After he was VP my brother and sister-in-law met him on the street in Rehobeth Beach and he spent about 30 minutes shooting the BS with them. Biden is one of a kind and was a perfect pick after monster Trump. Some of my evangelical friends believe God's hand puts a president in office for a reason. Their reasoning, surprisingly, is consistent. Bush was president for a reason as were Obama, Trump, and Biden. I wish God would realize his/her mistakes and stop making republicans President so democratic presidents don't need to clean up republicans' mess.
republianmushroom
(13,581 posts)FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)Of course we suspected it then, and we KNOW it now.
Biden handled himself perfectly during the campaign season. He supported the Dem candidates. He gave great speeches, and he supported positive, meaningful legislation when it REALLY MATTERED. In short, Biden was and is a true leader.
I don't listen to pollsters, nor do I read pre-election garbage in the media where certain people try to spin the so-called poll numbers. The amount of pre-election BS hit a new high this year - but the media had it all wrong! This is the take-home, this is what we need to remember. The media was wrong from the getgo, but some Dems bought it anyway.
NNadir
(33,513 posts)...I note that both Lincoln and FDR rose to their greatness by cleaning up after disastrous Presidencies.
Most historian rankings I've seen are unfair to Pierce, Andrew Johnson and possibly even James Buchanan inasmuch as they do not rank Trump below them, although they correctly rank Hoover, W.H. Harrison, Millard Filmore and the traitor John Tyler hghe. I'm lookong at the 2022 CSPAN poll, I'd have to flip a coin to decide between Trump and Buchanan for worst ever. Although Buchanan stumbled into the Civil War that offered Lincoln the chance to rise to the place he did, he wasn't from what I can tell, a corrupt psychopathic narcissist. He was merely incompetent and cowardly, properties associated with Trump as well, but Trump was surely a worse human being as he had additional weaknesses beyond those of Buchanan. The last historical word on Trump has not been written, but it's clear his historical record will inspire the question of how people could have been so stupid as to provide this sick man the White House.
As for Biden, he is an exemplar of the American genius for correcting disastrous Presidencies by following them with great ones. Obama was such a President as well.
bucolic_frolic
(43,134 posts)and his tenure is during megaloon opposition
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)including a half century of experience in the senate, with decades of high-level attention to many issues, also including his good character and sincere determination to serve. He's a moral man.
We'll have a better idea in future looking back with the assistance of scholars. I haven't the slightest doubt, however, that his overall "approval rating" will be far, far higher among future historians than people today.
lees1975
(3,845 posts)and that he has done an outstanding job as President. Along with Presidents Clinton and Obama and Carter, each have had unique circumstances and situations to deal with, and were willing to sacrifice political capital in order to make the right decisions. None of them were perfect, but they stand in stark contrast to the Republicans who served the special interests that poured cash into their campaigns and benefitted their bottom line.
We may have to put up with a couple of years of a dysfunctional House of representatives, if there aren't a few Republicans who see the handwriting on the wall and are willing to stand on integrity and principles to stop the extremist right wing conspiracy theory nonsense and the baseless screeching about rigged elections. But if they pursue their hateful agenda of revenge, and let screaming banshees like MTG and LB have the platform, they are headed for a landslide defeat in 2024 of what I believe will be historic dimensions. And that may be where we can put Trumpism and Q-Anon nonsense out the front door once and for all.
mvd
(65,173 posts)He has been so under-appreciated for how he has guided the US through multiple big problems. During the primary, I admit he didnt excite me and was a Bernie supporter. But President Biden has been quite progressive and really was meant for these times.
Proud to be Woke
(52 posts)Biden has accomplished so much good for the country in the past two years.. he is a level headed, moral person with experience. In many ways he is doing for the country what Abraham Lincoln did. Lincoln was not overly popular during his administration, according to a friend of mine who has studied him. He did not always do the popular thing or maybe the best thing at the time. But he was the binding that kept the country together. We desperately needed someone like Biden to follow the miserable administration that was Trump's. The media has not given Biden the positive attention they should. Jill Biden is mostly ignored.
A side note: Just the Biden's White House Christmas decorations compared with those of the Trumps' say a lot about Jill and Joe Biden's emotional and mental stability and basic decency. I think you can tell a lot about a person based on the decorations they place around them.. I kid you not. Go into any house or office cubicle and look at the objects people surround themselves with and you see what I mean. The Bidens placed lovely and tasteful, inviting colors, mostly green and gold and white. Some red and blue. In one corner of one wing they evoke a snow covered stand of trees. During the day. The infamous Trump "forests" were dark and you expected a werewolf to emerge from behind the trees. One infamous Trump White House decoration choice had red conifers that looked like spruces. Well, in nature, when you see an all red spruce or fir, it's dead.
Baitball Blogger
(46,700 posts)I got into hot water when I criticized the horrid Trump Christmas decorations to a friend of mine. It turns out, she knew the people who put it together.
Learned more about her conservative leanings with that incident than I had in all the years I had known her.