HOLD UP! Herschel Walker just admitted on his taxes that his primary residence is in Texas.

[ancianita]

From Shaun King on Facebook:

Herschel Walker isn't even hiding it. On his 2022 taxes he literally received a tax credit from Texas because he listed it as his primary residence.

I can think of a million reasons for voters in Georgia to not support this man, but now we understand that he's doing the exact same thing that Dr. Oz just tried to pull in Pennsylvania. Oz literally lives in New Jersey and tried to pretend that he lived in Pennsylvania.
And voters rejected it...and Dr. Oz.

This race shouldn't even be close, frankly.
In every measure that matters, including the most basic issue of residency, Raphael Warnock is the MUCH better candidate.

https://www.facebook.com/shaunking/posts/pfbid02XpAh84CGCbKs6J9CwBLCdJADRwGBc5soxwP8EsGSnL6awoBUaNxCBHDtYdJwmJ8Pl?notif_id=1669134694439374¬if_t=creators_activity&ref=notif

Beating trumpcult just gets easier and easier.

[PatSeg]

1. Agreed, truly a much better candidate

It is insane that it is even close.

[Pantagruel]

2. Texas already

has too many Senators.

[exboyfil]

3. So what are the residency requirements to run in the state of Georgia?

Was he even eligible in the general election?

[Vinca]

5. I was wondering that, too. Does he even have a residence in Georgia at all??

[ancianita]

11. Probably. And Kemp will take anyone with a house there, probably.

He's still a carpetbagger.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1595240980655050757?cxt=HHwWisC48YnOt6MsAAAA

[Bengus81]

65. They let KS Sen Pat Roberts (now retired) slide by just owning a rental. He actually lived in DC

He had NO primary or permanent residence in Kansas. He had a rental home,he would stop in there from time to time and set and chat with his renters and they'd call it good. He had a home in Kansas but didn't live in it.

Total BS..............

[IthinkThereforeIAM]

68. He spent most of his time in South Padre Island, Texas/Mexico...

... I recall that clearly.

[TexLaProgressive]

86. George H.W. Bush's Houston residence was a rented hotel room.

It would be let to others when not in Houston. This was a tax dodge, no property, no taxes in Texas.

[ancianita]

6. Probably the same as in PA.

[Major Nikon]

35. Same as every other state

The requirements are set by the Constitution and just says you must be a resident of the state. Doesn't say how long. Doesn't say anything about owning property. It was written before even the uber rich had homes all over the US. It's really no obstacle for anyone other than the political embarrassment and not even that to a party that has no shame and an electorate who puts no value in it.

[KS Toronado]

43. Years ago Senator Pat Roberts from KS

was challenged by his Democratic opponent about his residency in the state because he lived close to
Washington DC and very seldom visited KS. He proved he was renting a living room recliner from one
of his republiCON friends. That was good enough proof in this red state.

[Captain Zero]

73. Dan Coats last years as Indiana Sen. He lived in NC.

He lives there now.

[appmanga]

61. Unfortunately...

...what you're saying is wrong because you're conflating the Constitutional requirement and a state's residency requirement, which are statutory among the 50 sovereign states. Georgia has no residency requirement per se, but it does have residency requirements for taxation, social services, driver's licenses, etc. You may vote in Georgia after being there for one day, but that likely won't allow you to register to vote in any of its counties, which require proof to support you are living in the state.

[jaxexpat]

62. So it's possible the candidate wasn't able...

to register to vote in his own election. That's some serious mislaying of founding father's logic, I think. But such is life in the land of eternal horseshit.

[Major Nikon]

72. I'm not talking about voting

Neither am I talking about taxation, social services, driver's licenses, etc. So please don't accuse me of conflating things I never mentioned and wasn't talking about.

The requirements to run for Congress are spelled out in the Constitution and state laws don't trump them regardless of what the states say about all the other things you are conflating. The states can regulate primary elections, but they can't contradict the Constitution when it comes to the general elections to Congress.

[appmanga]

74. I wasn't talking about voting either...

...and you are conflating the two.

Article I, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution says"

No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen.

The states make the laws that determine who is legally an "inhabitant", also called a "resident" of that state. The federal Constitution doesn't define "inhabitant" or "resident", which leaves it open to the states to define what those mean. Otherwise I could go South Carolina to campaign when I want, be an "inhabitant" on Election Day, and, if I win, I become senator.

If what you suggest was possible, candidates would never have their residency challenged, and wouldn't bother to even to pretend to move to a state as part of seeking this office. There are so many things standing in the way of what you're saying being true, it wouldn't merit a response if there wasn't the possibility someone might believe what you wrote. And if you don't understand the states can make laws on issues where the federal constitution is silent, that's a huge misunderstanding.

[Major Nikon]

78. Now you are just being dishonest

You may vote in Georgia after being there for one day, but that likely won't allow you to register to vote in any of its counties, which require proof to support you are living in the state.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=17405092

If you think GA can place additional residency requirements on a general election for congress, feel free to cite them. Just because you say I’m wrong, doesn’t mean I’m wrong.

[appmanga]

103. And you continue...

...to perhaps purposely make two separate things into one. How does you state determine who's an "inhabitant"? I've told you how Georgia does it. If the Constitutional requirement was the end of it, there would be no use of nominating petitions, filing fees, or primaries. In any case, you are wrong, and it doesn't take a genius to see what you're trying to do here. I don't play those games.

[Major Nikon]

104. The game you are playing is called obfuscation and you got called out for it

Once again you are trying to introduce irrelevant things while simultaneously pretending that's what I'm doing as if anyone is stupid enough not to notice.

I'm talking about one thing. Not two separate things. Not voting, not primaries, not petitions, not registering to vote, not driver's licenses, or any of the other crap you are trying desperately to get to stick to the wall.

The qualifications for running for congress which are enumerated in the Constitution for anyone to plainly see. You haven't told shit about how Georgia does it. All you've done is bring up nonsense that has nothing to do with it and you're simply doubling down on it here after astonishingly and dishonestly claiming you didn't bring it up to begin with.

Feel free to cite the statute that prevents anyone from running for US Congressional office in a general election in the state of Georgia based on a length of habitation requirement. As yet you haven't because you can't. It's really that simple. Desperately trying to make it more complex while offering zero in the way of substance is quite telling.

[appmanga]

105. I don't do troll...

...goodnight.

[Major Nikon]

106. Even a cursory glance at this thread proves otherwise

[Grins]

82. Go to court and DISQUALIFY HIM!

Election over.

Should the angry Texan win - a HUGE lawsuit!!!!

[Ferrets are Cool]

84. Playing football at UofG

[usaf-vet]

94. There you have it. If he had played for ANY other college, he would never have been a candidate.....

.... Georgia.

[getagrip_already]

4. that had to be filed in march or april.....

what is the residency requirement in GA? If longer than 6 months, he doesn't have residency.

Where is his drivers license issued?

[ancianita]

8. Oh, it's probably technically qualifying. Still, he's just another carpetbagger.

Praise the lawd and pass the turkey. GA just got Oz-ified.

[gab13by13]

7. He is allowed to run,

after elected then he must live in Georgia.

Be at least 30 years old;
be a U.S. citizen for at least nine years;
and live in the state they represent at the time of election.

[ancianita]

9. Regardless. He's still a carpetbagger.

[James48]

16. How do we know Hershel is a U.S. Citizen?

I want to see his Long-form birth certificate.

[ancianita]

41. LOL heard THATf!

They SAY he was born in Augusta. Doesn't matter. He played football for GA.

[oldsoftie]

22. Correct. And after he loses, you can bet he'll be right back in Texas.

[ecstatic]

75. What the hell? Wow.

So can anyone do that? Just represent another state? If so, why TF aren't we doing that in the flyover states? Yeah it would suck for the celebrity who won and had to actually move there... but I think this loophole could change the game significantly!

[Major Nikon]

102. People do exactly that

HRC was from Arkansas, lived in the White House as the First Lady and immediately after was elected to the US Senator from NY. I’m not sure when they bought their property in NYC, but she obviously didn’t reside there full time long prior to the election.

It’s not really a loophole. The authors of the Constitution debated the requirements and rejected any length of inhabitation requirements. The intent was they live there and are accessible to the people they represent while not in DC.

[Gore1FL]

10. We need to do Virginian Josh Hawley next. nt

[ancianita]

12. Yep.

While we're at it, make the fact known far and wide that DeSantis presided over Guantanamo torture when he was in Navy service there.

[Sneederbunk]

13. Pulling an Oz.

[ancianita]

14. And a Hawley.

[rsdsharp]

15. Same thing happened with Dick Cheney in 2000.

His principal residence was in Texas, but he ran for VP from Wyoming, so they could still receive the Texas electoral votes.

This won’t make a bit of difference. IOKIYAR.

[ancianita]

18. Thanks for the reminder. Rethugs are quite the shady bunch at representation, aren't they.

Easy to see why they're the wholly owned subsidiary of the Dark Money Mafia.

[DENVERPOPS]

40. And everyone laughed at Hillary

When she stood on stage and said: "There is a Giant Right Wing Conspiracy"......even some dems laughed at her, thinking she was just massively exaggerating.............

And was it Pelosi who said: "All roads lead back to Putin"......

[ancianita]

42. We're learning more and more just how right Hillary was.

[DENVERPOPS]

46. I am glad that FINALLY

a lot are learning about Hillary, and about a bunch of other crap they never realized.

And thankfully there were many who knew what she was talking about at the time she said it......

[ancianita]

47. Me, too.

But I honestly have to admit that I didn't know the factual basis she had, I just trusted.

[DENVERPOPS]

50. She is/was, beyond any doubt,

the MOST qualified person in history to be the President of the United States.
Her Qualifications, Her Experience, and the scope of her knowledge was incredible.

Could you imagine where our country would be today if she had been elected.......

Believe me the Repubs knew this as well as anyone, and they pulled out all stops to corruptly get Trump in office.
The Uber Rich, the rich, the Corporations, Putin, China, North Korea, and the entire right wing knew they couldn't allow her to guide the U.S. for the next eight years...

[FoxNewsSucks]

48. And when she ran for Senate,

she bought a house and moved to NY in advance, then went around the state establishing a legitimate candidacy.

Republicons squealed that she was a carpetbagger anyway.

[Sogo]

19. He would not have been able to run if he was from the same state as the Pres candidate.

That's why he became a resident of Wyoming....

[rsdsharp]

38. No, he could have run, but if they had won Texas, the electoral votes

could not have been awarded to them.

From the 12th Amendment:

The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves;

[Sogo]

17. Wait, Texas has no state income tax, right?

That means Walker is willing to be GA's Senator, but not willing to pay GA's state taxes....

[ancianita]

20. Great point! Warnock needs to use all this info in these final days.

[Lonestarblue]

26. I questioned that, too, since he could not get a credit on anything but property taxes here.

And you only get that if you live in the state part of the year. It sounds more likely that he moved to Georgia to run and then claimed a tax credit for the partial year in Texas. Pretty standard practice.

[Major Nikon]

107. If he has income there, GA can still tax it

If he has property in GA they will tax that as well. One doesn’t preclude the other.

[LiberalArkie]

21. The Republicans are trying to prove that the voters are extremely stupid and that voting should be

done by the property owning elites like it was way back in time.

[ancianita]

23. Exactly. And their voters either don't know that or don't care because they want to live under

property owning elites. Way back in time was the plantation, guilded age and age of monopoly. oh wait. that's right now.

[GoodRaisin]

29. And they are doing a good job

of proving the stupid, of course. They have proven that their voters will vote for a house plant if they run one.

[Wibly]

24. Some lawyers need to jump on this

Isn't it a federal crime to make a false statement on a tax form?
If so, is Walker a resident of Texas or a resident of Georgia?
If he's a resident of Georgia, then hasn't he committed a crime by claiming to be a resident of Texas?
Also, because the Constitution requires anyone running for the US Senate be a resident of the state in which they are running at the time of the election, if Walker is a resident of Texas, shouldn't he be disqualified?
Methinks some lawyers should jump on this one.

[ancianita]

30. This is state level, though. If he claims it and the state gives him the ok, it's probably legal.

You can be a resident of many states but can claim only one as your primary resident. So that's the big carpetbagger invite across states, I would guess.

He's a resident of GA that -- unless GA has a primary residency law -- is probably okay with this.

You're right. Fani Willis' team should immediately look into this. She might be able to take him to court and have him immediately disqualified.

[Fla Dem]

25. Well it's all over the news now!

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/23/politics/kfile-herschel-walker-texas-tax-break-georgia-runoff/index.html

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/11/herschel-walker-tax-benefits-texas

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/even-now-herschel-walker-cant-quite-shake-residency-questions-rcna58528

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/11/23/herschel-walker-texas-tax-break/

[scipan]

71. From the CNN link

Walker registered to vote in Atlanta, Georgia, in 2021 after living in Texas for two decades and voting infrequently. In Texas, homeowner regulations say you can only take the exemption on your “principal residence.”

He shouldn't have taken the exemption in 2022.

[GoCubsGo]

27. Yes, and it's beyond me why this has not been an issue all along.

He hasn't lived in Georgia for years. This was know from the beginning. Any time it get brought up, it's met with the sound of crickets chirping.

[Grins]

28. Go to court and rule him ineligible!!!!

If a Democrat got caught like this the Repukes would be in court in HOURS!!! DO IT!

You may lose but it's great theater; hurtin' the MAGA!

[ancianita]

31. Yes. Maybe Warnock and Elias could maybe get an immediate judgment. IF primary residency is an

election requirement under GA law.

[LudwigPastorius]

32. Residency requirements don't apply to Republicans.

Just ask George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.

[ancianita]

33. Depends on the states, though.

[Meadowoak]

34. Doesn't that make him ineligible to run for Senate in Georgia?

[ancianita]

36. I've just read the Sec of State's PDF on that and cannot find anything about a primary residence

requirement. Only "Location" proof, whatever location means. But I'm sure some legal beagles are running this info down.

https://sos.ga.gov/sites/default/files/forms/2022_Qualifying_Packet_2022_02.pdf

[renate]

37. I find it mind boggling that this even needs to be discussed

I feel really bad for anybody with brain damage, but... the guy has genuinely profound brain damage. He just does. And yet the GOP ran him for the SENATE. It’s beyond parody... it’s practically abusive, as well as politically cynical.

[ancianita]

39. Well, somebody in trumpcult must have run all the paperwork for him. This is a bfd, politically,

no matter his brain status. You and I both know he was placed into the GA election as a bag man for the pro-corporate trump/Kemp/Koch camp, right?

By now we have to see things the way THEY do, not the way we have wanted them to be. Ya gotta let go of all, and I mean ALL, your assumptions about Republicans and their owner/donors when it comes to House and Senate AND statehouse elections.

[Demovictory9]

44. Amazing

[ancianita]

45. Right? I have a feeling that the legal loopholes of GA residency apply here.

[Stuart G]

49. Herschel Walker is a..."LIAR." .LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE. YOU'VE BEEN BOUGHT, YOU GOT CAUGHT!

..... ...........

[ancianita]

52. The question Democrats need to bring up in all statehouses is WHY the state allows carpetbaggers.

Just from this thread I count FIVE over the years.

[calimary]

100. And Herschel, that's all you GOT!

[Mysterian]

53. Georgia MUST reject the vapid Walker

or there is something seriously wrong with a lot of people down there

[usonian]

54. AND DONALD KRUMP IS FROM ARLINGTON VIRGINIA

Sadly, the above ground part.

[ancianita]

55. Damn. And VA allows P.O. Boxes, huh? Pretty f'n shady.

Like dual citizenship with FL and VA. Shady as hell.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

56. Just call him Walker, Texas Ranger.

He'll fit right in with that other Rethug fake Ranger by the same name......

KY

[ancianita]

58. Yep. Looks like Fake political theater, and voters line up for their tickets.

[Pinback]

60. Bwah! DUzy!

[Mz Pip]

57. Time get get that in an ad

Geez, DNC, don’t ignore this.

Fetterman hammered OZ on this constantly and it made a difference.

[ancianita]

59. YES. Take the Fetterman approach. I'd bet even most GA rethugs don't know this

carpetbagging is legal in their state.

[Mz Pip]

66. Probably not

I doubt many of them even follow Shaun King on Facebook.

Less than 2 weeks to go. Get this out there! Even if most people won’t care in a close election a point or two can make a huge difference.

[Delmette2.0]

63. I know I am late to the conversation.

Don't forget Rep. Steve Daines. He lives in California and has second home in Montana. So he gets elected in Montana because it's easier because of his good buddy the governor Greg Gianforte.

[Mr. Ected]

64. Won't matter. He's a Bulldog for life to these fools.

That's more than enough to bend and cheat the rules for them.

[COL Mustard]

67. I hope he gets his ass handed to him in the runoff.

But I have a significant question/doubt about this article, since 2022 taxes aren't due until April 2023 at the latest. I'm all for attacking his hypocrisy, but let's be real about what we attack and this one sounds off.

Just saying. And Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!

[quakerboy]

69. How does he have 2022 taxes?

Obviously the guy should not be elected dogcatcher let alone senator. But the years not even done yet.

[Pepsidog]

70. So why is this just coming to light now. Do Dems do opposition research on political opponents?

[ancianita]

79. I don't know enough to say exactly. The DNC does it for national elections. It also depends,

I guess, on state campaign candidates' donation levels and their staffing. Read this and let me know if you can summarize what Dems do, because I'm not sure I can.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_research

[republianmushroom]

76. And he is the best republican they could find to run for the Georgia snate.

[Deep State Witch]

77. Didn't Stop Dr. Oz

I mean, his Pennsylvania address was an abandoned storefront somewhere outside of Philly.

[dchill]

80. And guess what? Texas already has two moranic Senators!

[ancianita]

81. Talk about shit for brains politics, right?

[iemanja]

83. Must be his 2021 taxes

Because no one has filed 2022 yet.

[progree]

85. Oh, FFS! This election is about his erection, not his taxes

Herschel Walker Says ‘This Erection Is About the People’ During Fox News Appearance
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/herschel-walker-says-erection-people-063016798.html

[True Blue American]

88. I was just wondering

If that took place at his Texas House?

[Farmer-Rick]

87. So if you don't have to really live in GA

To run for office, or even PA, then do you have to live in the state to vote? Just saying what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

[True Blue American]

89. Hey! Dick Cheney

Lived in Texas, moved back to WY. To run with Bush!

It is fine if Republicans do it!

[ancianita]

90. Exactly. No wonder these people think elections are stolen. So is voters' representation.

Taxation without representation... This fight is far from over.

[colorado_ufo]

91. Are you talking about a refund?

We are still in 2022, those taxes haven't been filed yet. Unless it is estimated tax. Am I wrong?

[ancianita]

93. You might be right. I really don't know. I just passed on what I read about the TX filing. Sorry.

[stopdiggin]

92. it's pretty clear that Walker is qualified

to run for office in GA. (residency is determined by state requirement, is mostly fairly lax, and has nothing to do with owning property) The only question of legality here lies in whether Texas code allows him to claim 'primary residence' for property owned there. And again - requirement is determined state by state, but generally the 'requirements' are not all that stringent. (you generally only get tripped up if you are trying to claim 'multiple' primary residences)

------ ---------- --- --- ---

[ancianita]

95. Such a low bar that it creates carpetbaggers. To choose to qualify as a carpetbagger

is the essence of anti-democracy, imo.

[stopdiggin]

96. perhaps.

But then - I'd like a little more definition in what you think residency (fairly loose construct in general) should require - in order to rescue democracy.

Many people spend large periods of time working, earning income, or just plain residing in places other than their 'home.' (and that includes people that don't own multiples). Fishing crews in Alaska, oil workers in the Gulf, long haul truckers, artists, athletes, college students, military personnel ... Do you intend to make residency and voting privilege more difficult and constrained for all these people? I'm not sure if that means a step forward for democracy. My own preference (by a long margin) - lies not in prohibition and restrictions - but would be that 'we the people' would just stop voting for people that are unrepresentative of our interests.

And, of course - for self evident morons like Mr. Walker.
(do the good people of GA really need to be constrained from voting for such obviously unfit candidates? and what does that say about democracy?)

[ancianita]

97. Sure.

I think a primary residence is where any elected candidate calls home. Where the candidate knows his/her state's people, their problems and concerns about the future.

When they carpetbag into state they do injustice to those other people...

...Fishing crews in Alaska, oil workers in the Gulf, long haul truckers, artists, athletes, college students, military personnel ... Do you intend to make residency and voting privilege more difficult and constrained for all these people? I'm not sure if that means a step forward for democracy.

... they corrupt the democratic structure already in place for primary residents' primary and general election voting, by corrupting their trust in democracy that is of, by and for the people. These people who work elsewhere but are IN their states don't feel that their consent of the governed means much to these carpetbaggers.


That is who Senator Warnock is. A primary resident of the state he seeks to represent.
Walker, Oz, Cheney and Hawley are not representative of the states they've sought to represent.

[stopdiggin]

98. well, I cordially invite you to draw up a list of

'requirements for residency' to be submitted to the state legislature - in order to safeguard democracy.

In my own mind - the problem is much less a matter of 'carpetbaggers' (which I think is a judgement best left to the voters) - and much more a matter that so many American voters would even consider casting a vote for such a F-ing moron.

Therein lies the real (or greater) danger to democracy.

[ancianita]

99. Not being a lawyer, I'll see what can be done about that.

I hear you about carpetbaggers and morons. But in your mind, recall that carpetbaggers have corrupted the structures of democracy voting for over 160 years of U.S. history. They groom voter gullibility. They groom moron candidates.

The situation in GA directly connects to slavery by other names. The ultimate goal of carpetbaggers is to clear the plain for the occupation of big money rule. It is the very point of the Koch network picking tools like Walker and Lake. Charles Koch said, " I don't just buy influence, and hope candidates do and say. I buy the right to tell them what to do and say." Also, "If you don't have the courts, you got nothing."
(from Jane Mayer's Dark Money)

This isn't about stereotypes or stupidity politics as the ultimate danger to democracy.
This is about corporate capture of democracy from candidate down to voter -- the goal being to make quasi transient work slaves think they're free on a corporate campus the slaves thought was their country. The absolute tell of the game afoot, is when Trump and Lake say, "if you don't get out there and fight like hell, you're not going to have a country."

[brooklynite]

101. There are no residency requirements for Federal offices.

Only that you’re in the State in question where you take office.