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catbyte

(39,308 posts)
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 08:20 AM Nov 2022

As Kari Lake whines about 'botched' election, Arizona moves on -- angering the GOP

Sarah K. Burris
November 23, 2022



Governor-elect Katie Hobbs was welcomed to the office by the current governor, Doug Ducey on Wednesday as he offered to make the transition from his government to hers a peaceful and easy one.



It's something that Hobbs' chief of staff highlighted in a tweet as well. It harkens back to Jan. 6, when Donald Trump refused to cooperate with a peaceful transition for his presidency.



Meanwhile, the failed Republican opponent, Kari Lake, continued her conspiracy about her election loss and pledged that she was going to launch her court case that would ultimately deliver her a victory.

“We’re on a timeline. A very strict timeline when it comes to fighting this botched election, and they’re dragging their feet. They don’t want to give us the information, so we’re asking the courts to force them," she tweeted.

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As Kari Lake whines about 'botched' election, Arizona moves on -- angering the GOP (Original Post) catbyte Nov 2022 OP
Honestly, what doesn't anger the GOP? tanyev Nov 2022 #1
And until Trump, whoever realized how EASY it was... maddiemom Nov 2022 #7
Lake's antics make Ducey look like a "swell guy" Zambero Nov 2022 #2
You can have your cray politics, you can not threaten election officials, the courts, truth Alexander Of Assyria Nov 2022 #6
Not Revolutionary, just Revolting Zambero Nov 2022 #8
They are doing the best thing: ignore Lake and move on. brer cat Nov 2022 #3
Nothing pisses a narcissist off like ignoring them... Wounded Bear Nov 2022 #15
I still want to know if she has a stuffed tiger that comes to life when no one is around. The Jungle 1 Nov 2022 #4
That's her son you are thinking about. 😀 madinmaryland Nov 2022 #31
Calvin and Hobbes The Jungle 1 Nov 2022 #38
Hadn't Lake better drop this BS & try to area51 Nov 2022 #5
Trump-Lake Zambero Nov 2022 #10
Perfect! And there be alligators.... erronis Nov 2022 #14
Her behavior really does come across as irrational and unhinged Torchlight Nov 2022 #9
And worse yet for Kari Zambero Nov 2022 #11
Well done Sir 3auld6phart Nov 2022 #12
Democrats should fight like this orthoclad Nov 2022 #13
So you believe Kari Lake's strategy is right? Can you clarify? emulatorloo Nov 2022 #17
We should fight in the courts and the press orthoclad Nov 2022 #18
Lake is a Sore Loser.. she's irrational Cha Nov 2022 #21
We need to understand that orthoclad Nov 2022 #39
I Understand Lake is a Bitter GD Cha Nov 2022 #42
I do agree Gore should have fought harder Skittles Nov 2022 #35
I don't equate them orthoclad Nov 2022 #40
What SPECIFICALLY should Gore have done? brooklynite Nov 2022 #22
Fuck Kari Lake and anyone who thinks she's doing the right thing. Iggo Nov 2022 #29
Ducey is running for the Senate in 2024. former9thward Nov 2022 #16
Could not disagree more grantcart Nov 2022 #24
Ducey has relatively high approval ratings. former9thward Nov 2022 #26
Have you seen Grijalva in person? grantcart Nov 2022 #27
I assumed Ruben Gallego would be the guy. Dorian Gray Nov 2022 #28
I think Stanton would defeat him in a state wide primary former9thward Nov 2022 #33
Gallego can defeat Ducey. nt Celerity Nov 2022 #30
I don't believe he can win state wide. former9thward Nov 2022 #32
I absolutely believe he can. I find it strange you left him out of your initial list, when he is a Celerity Nov 2022 #34
Those of us in AZ will find out quickly. former9thward Nov 2022 #36
Gallego has been in campaign mode for months, and yes, we shall see. cheers Celerity Nov 2022 #37
Hey Loser Lake.. you're Dragging Cha Nov 2022 #19
She'd call the Cyber Ninja's but... lame54 Nov 2022 #20
Lol emulatorloo Nov 2022 #23
Well, you know what happens when THEY get called. Harry Belafonte starts singing, and then........ DFW Nov 2022 #25
A sore loser like Lake should be thrown under the bus and that's it. Initech Nov 2022 #41

maddiemom

(5,206 posts)
7. And until Trump, whoever realized how EASY it was...
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:38 AM
Nov 2022

to challenge a perfectly normal election result and cause such an uproar without an ounce of truth. What FUN we've been missing!

Zambero

(10,029 posts)
2. Lake's antics make Ducey look like a "swell guy"
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:56 AM
Nov 2022

His politics are abysmal, but at a minimum, he supports an orderly transition as mandated by the voters in his state. A defining difference between the few remaining establishment Republicans and MAGAts.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
6. You can have your cray politics, you can not threaten election officials, the courts, truth
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:35 AM
Nov 2022

and the constitution. Revolutionary!?

brer cat

(27,684 posts)
3. They are doing the best thing: ignore Lake and move on.
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:58 AM
Nov 2022

She is all about attention. Don't give it to her.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
4. I still want to know if she has a stuffed tiger that comes to life when no one is around.
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:30 AM
Nov 2022
 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
38. Calvin and Hobbes
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:09 PM
Nov 2022

No one got my joke and I posted it several times so I am a loser. Calvin and Hobbes is the best cartoon strip ever.

area51

(12,755 posts)
5. Hadn't Lake better drop this BS & try to
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:31 AM
Nov 2022

suck up to #DementiaDonnie to try to become his VP?

Torchlight

(7,059 posts)
9. Her behavior really does come across as irrational and unhinged
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:40 AM
Nov 2022

wanting to score points rather than engage in any good faith discussions. I think she's trying to convince herself how clever she is, and that happens only at the expense of other people, and yet in doing so, she ends up illustrating her own lack of character. Every time. It must be lonely to be so enamored with oneself.

Zambero

(10,029 posts)
11. And worse yet for Kari
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:45 AM
Nov 2022

Her hopes and dreams of being "Your worst nightmare" for two terms as governor didn't quite materialize as predicted.

orthoclad

(4,818 posts)
13. Democrats should fight like this
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:18 AM
Nov 2022

I wish Gore would have fought like this rather than "high-roading" the 2000 election. He didn't want to plunge the country into turmoil?

Well, because of that high-roadig, we got irreversible climate change, 9/11 (I think he would have listened to the warnings), and multiple never-ending wars. Just think: no "Patriot" Act, no Iraq, no Afghanistan, and protection for our descendants' world.

We should have at least SOME of the passion of the loonies, rather than just "vote harder". Nice guys finish last.

I pre-emptively state that no, I don't think we should dress in tactical gear or 3-cornered hats and storm the Capitol, but act more like a football team fighting hard for a win. We keep letting the reich wing get away with shit because we're too "nice". They're winning the passion war.

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
17. So you believe Kari Lake's strategy is right? Can you clarify?
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:52 AM
Nov 2022

Because she is a behaving like a cornered rat, and lying like a rug.

Thanks in advance!

orthoclad

(4,818 posts)
18. We should fight in the courts and the press
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 03:46 PM
Nov 2022

and in the popular mind with the passion that the reich wing uses -- if we want to defeat them. Hold rallies. Yell "You lie!" like they did to Obama. Blame the billionaires who own most of the world. Roe brought up some of that kind of passion. We need a LOT more.

There are so many crimes that just got swept under the rug after some lame struggle. Emoluments. Nepotism. Stochastic terror. Mass murder. Treason. Fossil money corruption. Untracked trillions of covid money. Etc. There's too much at stake. We're facing existential threats comparable to WWII - or worse.

Nations are finally acknowledging that the climate crisis is a national security issue, and they're trying to buy off the victims of our bloatmobile culture with a few bucks. Wait until half the global south tries to immigrate because they're poverty stricken and flooded out. Pakistan's a nuclear power. There will be major violence. That's just one dimension of what we're facing.

I say fight with passion and compassion.

Cha

(320,585 posts)
21. Lake is a Sore Loser.. she's irrational
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 04:07 PM
Nov 2022

and unhinged.. a Gaslighting Liar.

Nothing "passionate" about that.

orthoclad

(4,818 posts)
39. We need to understand that
Sun Nov 27, 2022, 01:38 PM
Nov 2022

this is not a polite game of rummy: it's cut-throat poker with hidden aces, stilettos, and derringers. For a metaphor.

Skittles

(172,880 posts)
35. I do agree Gore should have fought harder
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:49 PM
Nov 2022

since when does the Supreme Court pick our president? But honestly, there's no equating Gore and Lake - Ms. Lake is a MAGAt nutcase....

orthoclad

(4,818 posts)
40. I don't equate them
Sun Nov 27, 2022, 01:52 PM
Nov 2022

I just wish Gore and the party had fought harder, rather than being polite. No turmoil from that can compare with the following 20 some years. I understand his impulse away from conflict, but we got conflict anyway. Possibly termianl harm.

When has a democrat ever stood up to a lying Rethug and yelled "You lie!" like one did to Obama? I bet that brought in votes for the Rethug, just for the passionate drama.

Humans are usually more emotional than rational. The reich-wing is better at pushing emotional hot buttons. They know that rage and fear become addictive. What can we counter that with? Honest question.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
22. What SPECIFICALLY should Gore have done?
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 04:12 PM
Nov 2022

“Act more like a football team” tells me nothing.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
16. Ducey is running for the Senate in 2024.
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:29 AM
Nov 2022

And he will probably win. Democrats have no big name that can win a general election against him.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
24. Could not disagree more
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 06:48 PM
Nov 2022

Ducey would have liked to run but isn't going to for the same reason Flake didn't.

It is unlikely that Ducey could win the primary, and if he did survive that bloody civil war he wouldn't have a unified party behind him.

Ducey has also alienated teachers and parents with his education funding debacle.

Ducey isn't a career politician, he can return to the business world with a fraction of the grief and make more money, which is what Flake did.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
26. Ducey has relatively high approval ratings.
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 07:11 PM
Nov 2022

He did not run against Kelly because he thought Kelly was a strong candidate. (It turns out Kelly was not. Kelly only got 51% of the vote against a flawed candidate who was unknown in AZ before the primary). Also Trump was against Ducey but that will be yesterday's news in 2024.

Can Raúl Grijalva win a state wide primary against someone like Stanton and Sinema? Maybe. But I highly doubt he can win a general election against a major name like Ducey. Grijalva is really not known outside his district. A major factor in whether Grijalva or Stanton run against Sinema in 2024 is what its looks like in the House future. If the Rs look like they will keep control they will be more likely to run. It is not fun being in the minority in the House.

Yes, Ducey can go back into business. But he is still young and he has plenty of time to do that.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
27. Have you seen Grijalva in person?
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:27 PM
Nov 2022


Grijalva has publicly acknowledged he has a drinking problem and it has effected his staff relationships including an ethics probe. I have seen him at a mid day event and he was already in a compromised state. If you see him in person he doesn't look well.

I don't know anyone who thinks Grijalva is suitable for a statewide race.

It is no secret that the odds on favorite in the Democratic party to take out Sinema is Ruben Gallego who is seen more and more often on national TV. As a combat marine he has strong appeal to McCain Republicans.

Your facts on Duceys favorability rating is way off. Last poll he was at 35%.

It wasn't just Trump that was against Ducey, AZ Republican Chair Kelli Ward and Ducey have been in open warfare for years and that is the inter party war that a primary would ignite and why Ducey isn't going to run.

Celerity

(54,878 posts)
34. I absolutely believe he can. I find it strange you left him out of your initial list, when he is a
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:38 PM
Nov 2022

major name in terms of primarying Sinema, mentioned far more often than Stanton. Gallego also has a more compelling backstory, which has only increased due to his valour on January 6.

Also, as others stated, Ducey has many obstacles to winning both a primary and a general, and may not even wish to run.

DFW

(60,436 posts)
25. Well, you know what happens when THEY get called. Harry Belafonte starts singing, and then........
Thu Nov 24, 2022, 06:54 PM
Nov 2022

Initech

(109,266 posts)
41. A sore loser like Lake should be thrown under the bus and that's it.
Sun Nov 27, 2022, 01:56 PM
Nov 2022

Fuck these whining conspiracy theory whackjobs, they have no business being in government.

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