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Cowboys owner Jerry Jones identified in troubling 1957 segregation photo
The NFL mogul has not apologized, but gave his version of events as to what occurred in the disturbing photograph.
Jones has been identified in a troubling Sept. 9, 1957 photograph in North Little Rock High School in Arkansas. The scene is chilling: a group of young white males stand in front of a school and harrass six black students from entering and desgregating the school.
The Cowboys owner, who was one month from turning 15 at the time, is not at the front of the pack, but was present at the scene. He has admitted to being the boy in the photo, but has not apologized.
He assures he was there just as a curious bystander: "I don't know that I or anybody anticipated or had a background of knowing what was involved. It was more a curious thing."
The present-day billionaire said he was a "mischevious little burrhead" back then, and defied his coach's orders to stay away from the scenes. Jones also admits he had no knowledge that photographers would be present.
https://www.marca.com/en/nfl/dallas-cowboys/2022/11/24/637ef2d8ca47413f298b45e2.html
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)And all you know is he's standing there, and doesn't appear to be any kind of 'leader' in the situation (that would be more troubling if so).
I mean I always root against the Cowboys and I'm not a Jones fan in particular, but this is not worthy of cancellation, IMHO.
If there was a further troubling history of him making racist comments, that'd be different, but I'm not aware of any offhand.
Solomon
(12,652 posts)Good whitewashing there.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)... every single person here would be like OMFG he was ONLY 15, a tiny little innocent child, incapable of consent, and our collective heads would explode in rage at that priest.
But put the same 15 yo standing in a crowd of others doing something we disapprove of, and suddenly he's a fully-formed adult, totally responsible for everything he does, thinks, and everywhere he physically appears, and needs to be held accountable for all of it, the entire rest of his life.
He's friggin 15 and it's 1957. Show me a pic of doing something like that in, say, 1965, and then I'll have a big problem right along with you.
I was doing and thinking a lot of stupid shit when I was 15, a hell of a lot of it I outgrew pretty quickly.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,181 posts)Solomon
(12,652 posts)White people thought it was okay because 1957. Okay. We get it.
Buckeyeblue
(6,440 posts)It's a further reminder that this history was really not that long ago. While there is no one alive that was a witness to slavery, there are people alive who were a witness of and party to segregation in the south.
To me it's an indictment of an entire generation (my parents generation) who modtly did nothing as they witnessed this atrocity.
Jones was 15. An apology from him about being in the picture would be weird. But what's sad is instead of taking the time to say that this is a sad reminder of a troubling time when people were denied access because the color of their skin, he talked about himself. That tells us all we need to know about Jerry Jones.
StormKing
(243 posts)They had to speak over you twice and not once did they realize how horrid that is...
Lochloosa
(16,805 posts)Polybius
(22,122 posts)I would just say that he was 22, and the mistake he made 57 years ago shouldn't be held against him forever. At some point we should honor the statute of limitations.
Jack the Greater
(616 posts)Being a student at his high school who was photographed at the entrance being blocked from entering by a crowd gathered for the TV cameras??
Polybius
(22,122 posts)After I posted I realized that he likely was just in the background.
Jack the Greater
(616 posts)He is one face in a crowd of students who gathered around a gaggle of TV cameras at the front entrance of the high school. Yesterday, one DUer posted this photo with the claim that Jones was the kid with the cigarette dangling from his mouth. Lies should have no place here.
Treefrog
(4,170 posts)Nailed that one.
Hypocrisy seems to thrive here on certain subjects.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,181 posts)Seriously though, I agree, the rank hypocrisy on some issues here is astounding.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(15,020 posts)the guy clearly blocking their path
Trenzalore
(2,575 posts)The fact that he was trash when he was a kid isn't surprising.
Srkdqltr
(9,946 posts)AllyCat
(18,992 posts)He didnt know there would be cameras? Is that his defense?
Srkdqltr
(9,946 posts)He said he was there, told why. He doesn't need a defense.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,181 posts)Demsrule86
(71,555 posts)He was a racist jerk then and still is if you ask me.
Had he turned into a decent man, then "maybe" we could say he has nothing to apologize for. But he's a grown man with the same hateful thoughts as that
15yr old boy.
Demsrule86
(71,555 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,991 posts)Demsrule86
(71,555 posts)AllyCat
(18,992 posts)What does that hurt?
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,181 posts)What evidence is there that he was or still is a racist?
And why would he need to apologize if he is telling the truth?
AllyCat
(18,992 posts)But to defend himself saying he didnt know there would be cameras is, um, not exactly the excuse one would expect from a guy who isnt racist now.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,181 posts)if I did, then I apologize and have a very Happy Thanksgiving.
Goodheart
(5,760 posts)Let's get real.
LenaBaby61
(6,991 posts)Yes he's a rich, white, male, right-winged racist piece of trash.
Of course this is a defense.
I mean, look at the fat, crazy, racist, white son of a bitch destroying our country and whose now spouting Q spiracies. He's becoming more and more unhinged,and threatening the people who are invevstigating his guilty, treasonous crazy ass. Yet, the so-called liberal media whose really reich-winged, mostly corporate, greedy for money, clicks, views and ad dollars, is comparing what Pres. Biden did or having his grand daughter's wedding at the White House to what tRump has and is still doing to our country? You're damn right he didn't invite the so-called liberal media, because it's a private affair that assholes like Ashley Parker didn't need to be at or see, and so now she's comparing what Biden did to what tRump did and is still doing to destroy our country and what little democracy we have left? Really? As I always say we have very few good people in the media in our country. Most are bothsids do it like Parker and Todd and other reich-winged, corporate media assholes.
Anyway they'll be no apology. No reflection. No NOTHING. He's white, rich, reich-winged and male. I mean you know
The late Sen. Robert Byrd Jones is NOT.
AllyCat
(18,992 posts)Treefrog
(4,170 posts)He was 14. I remember people gathering like that as soon as they saw any kind of commotion.
It was high school for crying out loud.
Oneironaut
(6,322 posts)AllyCat
(18,992 posts)TheBeam19
(344 posts)out of a forced apology. Demanding an apology is like demanding a thank-you. The person either means it or they dont. If they dont, why would anyone want to simply hear them say words?
Arkansas Granny
(32,265 posts)It took some time to overcome the old prejudices and bigotry, but he did it.
I don't know if Jerry Jones is still a racist or not, but people can change and grow.
NCDem47
(3,523 posts)But you cant take the 1957 Arkansas out of the boy.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,181 posts)if so, any proof of your innuendo?
Solomon
(12,652 posts)never hired a black head coach despite years of pretending he's all for diversity.
Response to Solomon (Reply #19)
MarineCombatEngineer This message was self-deleted by its author.
Solomon
(12,652 posts)the Post printed a front page article about Jones and the fact that he's never hired a black head coach despite the fact that the NFL is fueled largely by black players. (Post's words, not mine)
I guess all those people we see in the lynching photos were also just innocent curious bystanders too. Didn't know what was happening. Just showed up for no reason at all. Even the youngsters in those photos. So innocent.
You say who gives a fuck but you sure are giving a lot of fucks on this asshole's behalf.
I got no beef with you Marine Combat Engineer I enjoy and respect your posts but why you taking it so hard? Head banging against wall and all that?
You believe he just happened to walk by and be there. I believe he was there because he was racist. The fact that he won't say like so many others have done, that he has evolved suggests to me that yes, the fucker is racist. He's still in denial.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,181 posts)I just got off the road yesterday, still recovering from road lag, as I call it.
I'll delete my misunderstanding of your post.
Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.
Demsrule86
(71,555 posts)Please note there was other racist, homophobic and myogenic content that was not released and as the Raiders coach complained, there was no written report...
On Monday night, Gruden informed his staff, and the Raiders, that he will be stepping down. (Click here for more on the former Cowboys coach who will replace him.) His decision comes in the wake of a report from the New York Times, which uncovered emails in which Gruden used racist, homophobic and misogynistic language in a series of emails he sent several years ago to former Washington general manager Bruce Allen and others around the league.
Jones was asked if Gruden deserved to lose his job because of his past emails.
I dont have anything I would want to express there one way or the other, Jones said. I know that from the standpoint of contribution, I know that we are all accountable to even a, if you will, a fleeting or minor part of our actions. We are all accountable to those. But thats about all I want to comment on it.
https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/jon-gruden-scandal-reaction-dallas-cowboys-owner-jerry-jones-raiders-news
Link to tweet
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)With Al Davis and his family.
It's been known a long time that Jerry was close with Al Davis ... who was Jewish, as an aside.
And I'd point out that the Raiders, more than probably any other NFL team, are known for providing opportunities to minorities and women (Art Shell, first black HC, Tom Flores, first Latino HC, and Amy Trask, first high-level female NFL executive, for example).
I'm not saying I know one way or the other 'how he feels about black people', but it's not only possible, it's LIKELY that Jones declined to make a strong statement in the wake of the news of Gruden's past comments ... out of a sense of decorum and deference to the Davis family, who were, at the time, dealing with a PR nightmare, esp. in light of how the Raiders as an organization had been historically viewed in this regard.
Mark Davis almost immediately fired Gruden when he learned of the racist shit Gruden had said. And Jones certainly did not denigrate him for doing so.
Again, I don't know his heart, but afa actual evidence goes, his statement on Gruden is a weak piece in your case.
Demsrule86
(71,555 posts)was fair. Sorry, this is still a f'ing racist, a mysogenist, and a homophobe...hate rich guys like that. They make the world a worse place. And I would bet money that this guy funds MAGA too.
Demsrule86
(71,555 posts)are Jewish) but he is intolerant.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,181 posts)I don't give a fuck what Jerry Jones did or didn't do in '57 nor today, it has no bearing on today's problems with the world, if you want to rehash what he did or didn't do, that's certainly your right, me, I just don't fucking care.
Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.
Demsrule86
(71,555 posts)give a damn. But I don't care really.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,181 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(18,181 posts)Who gives a fuck?
Is there any evidence that he's continued this behavior?
Aren't there more important issues in the country?
Or the rest of the world for that matter than what Jerry Jones did back in '57?
I swear this place sometimes!
Oh and BTW, welcome to DU.
Enjoy.
The Grand Illuminist
(2,066 posts)14 year olds are still adolescents. Who knows, he may be working for the school paper at the time if he did.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Raine
(31,237 posts)Paladin
(32,354 posts)Tarc
(10,602 posts)Chasing explanations about what an 80 year-old was doing 65 years ago does not seem like a fruitful pursuit. We've long known about the character of Jones, or lack thereof.
AkFemDem
(2,508 posts)A 14 year old kid is pictured standing at the back of a crowd at his own school, watching a major event, 60+ years ago and
? So?
Like we dont have real problems today to deal with??
Sneederbunk
(17,642 posts)Paladin
(32,354 posts)It's a safe bet that none of the other racist punks in that photo grew up to own and mismanage a pro football team.
Sneederbunk
(17,642 posts)Trenzalore
(2,575 posts)BannonsLiver
(20,859 posts)And MCE, I dont care what you think. Fuck Jerry Jones and the horse he rode in on. And the Cowboys, too.
Polybius
(22,122 posts)It looks like he was in the background. Was it a protest that he was at for segregation? Was he simply trying to see what was going on? Was it school standard? Either way he was 14 and it was 65 years ago, so I don't care.
Demsrule86
(71,555 posts)is a racist, a misogynist, and a homophobe. It is on this thread. I am sure Daddy and Mommy yanked him out of public school so he would not be 'damaged' by having Black kids in his school.
Sympthsical
(11,119 posts)He graduated from the school in 1960. Third sentence on his wiki page. Required ten seconds to confirm.
Disliking someone shouldn't be license to just make things up for narrative purposes. People are good or bad enough on their own.
Treefrog
(4,170 posts)Very good!
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,181 posts)jalan48
(14,914 posts)Wednesdays
(23,150 posts)Except that he was eyewitness to a historical event.
Trashing this thread.
Takket
(23,804 posts)We're going to condemn and shame someone because they were caught in a photo at an event at 14 years old in 1957??????
Are we for real here? Are we Democrats or are we the type that see a photo and think we know everything about what is in a person's heart when they are 14, and how NONE of that can possibly change 65 years later?
Well, you got him. Racism is over now I guess. We have exposed Jerry Jones presence in Little Rock in 1957. I guess we can all sleep well tonight. Well maybe not tonight, but maybe after he's burned at the stake, then we can all sleep.
Unless someone wants to come forward with proof that Jones is really the racist some are saying he is, I suggest you all acknowledge that kids do stupid shit sometimes, and move on.
MichMan
(17,403 posts)Jedi Guy
(3,501 posts)If we acknowledge that kids do stupid shit sometimes and move on, we can't be outraged and pillory him in the public square over this. Where's the fun in that?
Zeitghost
(4,557 posts)But I'm not sure we can even chalk it up to kids doing stupid shit.
He was in a crowd at his own HS during a noteworthy event being covered by media. That's all the facts the photo gives us.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,181 posts)Abolishinist
(3,057 posts)And there's another thread on this topic where the OP identifies Jones as the guy with the cigarette. Several posters brought this to their attention yesterday, yet as of now, it hasn't been updated.
I will add that Jones HAS changed. He was brought up in a working-class, Democratic family.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,181 posts)case in point, I was a solid Repub. when I enlisted in the Marines, I was still a solid Repub when I received orders for combat duty in Vietnam, about halfway through my first tour, I realized that the Repukes were lying through their teeth about the reasons we were in Vietnam and the progress of our combat missions and body counts, that's when I knew that they were lying to us and I became a dedicated Dem. and have voted that way since.
Peace out
Dan.
Treefrog
(4,170 posts)excusing politicians we like for appearing in blackface (while adults) or any other transgressions.
TheBeam19
(344 posts)delivered upon demand doesnt work. Then its too late, not good enough, etc.
If a person is truly sorry, thats when an apology means something. If theyre not, why demand that they say it?
UnderThisLaw
(338 posts)uneventful Thanksgiving for the usual suspects. I guess trolling knows no holidays
Vinca
(54,343 posts)man. Haven't "journalists" got anything better to investigate? Glad I'm not famous. I'd hate all the dumb teenage things I did becoming the talk of lazy media.
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