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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe reality of abortion bans hits home
Got a call from a friend asking me for a loan to help with expenses to take her daughter to NY for an abortion. That was on Tuesday. Im in GA. I said to her oh, no need to go to NY, the ban here in GA was overturned. She hadnt heard that. Shes not someone that obsesses over news and politics like I do. I knew there was going to be an appeal, I had hoped that she could get it done before the appeal.
I had to call her this morning to tell her that ruling was overturned and the ban is back in effect.
So she will have to take time off from work. She has no more PTO left. Get plane tickets for 2, hotel accommodations. Shes divorced, her ex lives in another state, She has 3 younger kids, that shes trying to figure out who will care for them when she goes to NY.
I am more than happy to help. At least we dont have bounty hunter laws here in GA.
😞
usaf-vet
(6,092 posts)DownriverDem
(6,205 posts)When abortion was legal in some states in the 1970s a friend of mine had to travel from Ohio to New York to get an abortion. She had to travel alone because she and her boyfriend did not have enough money for both of them to go & pay for it. Abortion rights are legal in Michigan thanks to the state passing Proposal 3 in the Midterms.
ShazzieB
(15,952 posts)Flew out of Chicago early in the morning, flew back the same day. I guess a lot of women were doing the same thing, because the clinic I used actually ran a free airport shuttle bus to pick up patients at the airport and take us back afterwards.
The only snag I hit was that I got back to Chicago later than I planned and missed the limo that would have taken me back to the college town where I was living and going to school at the time. Took CTA bus to downtown Chicago, spent the night in the Greyhound bus station, and caught the first bus home in the morning.
If I'd had the $, I'd have stayed in a hotel in New York and flown back the next day, but the cost of just getting there and back stretched my financial resources to the max. I have no regrets except for not planning things out a little better.
Gato Moteado
(9,841 posts)...like that and then have to ride a greyhound bus back to school. things shouldn't have to be that difficult for women. but thank goodness everything turned out OK.
which college town were you living in? champagne? normal?
ShazzieB
(15,952 posts)Only 60 miles from Chicago, so it wasn't a very long bus ride.
The night in the bus station kind of sucked, but overall, I was proud of myself for the way I coped with everything. I was only 22 at the time, but I always was a very self-sufficient, "I can handle this, just give me a minute to figure things out" kind of person.
Anti-choicers who clutch their pearls and insist that abortion should be outlawed because "It's a devastating experience that leaves extreme psychological damage and we must protect women from it!!! really piss me off. I can believe that's the case for some (people are all individuals and can have vastly different reactions to similar situations), but they are a small minority (there's a ton of research that supports this). I've BEEN there, so they can just fuck off, because I don't need anyone trying to tell me how MY OWN experience affected me!
Gato Moteado
(9,841 posts)are you from chicago originally?
ShazzieB
(15,952 posts)I was born in Chicago, but i haven't lived there since I was a baby and spent most of my childhood in another part of the country entirely. (My parents moved us around way too damned much, but that's a whole other story.)
We were back in Illinois (in a different part of the state) for my last two years of high school. I decided to go to NIU because they had a program for what I thought I wanted to major in at the time (andnn I ended up majoring in something completely different, lol). Met and married a guy from the Chicago surburbs, and at this point in my life, I feel like my roots are in the Chicago metro area, if not the city itself.
I ❤ Chicago, and I am proud to have been born there, but not sure if I'm entitled to claim it as my "home town."
Gato Moteado
(9,841 posts)i was born and raised in the city. went to lane tech high school, right down the street from wrigley field. left chicago in 1990, 5 years after i graduated from college (loyola) and now i'm in costa rica.
ShazzieB
(15,952 posts)barbtries
(28,702 posts)but i think she can still get one here in NC - that would be closer and cheaper.
good luck. thankfully she has you!
mwooldri
(10,291 posts)Except in case of life of parent, of course.
barbtries
(28,702 posts)i was making the assumption that she wasn't that far along but of course i don't know.
paleotn
(17,778 posts)but there are still restrictions in NC that might overly complicate matters.
barbtries
(28,702 posts)and women here will have to travel for abortions.
i hate republicans and they hate me. as they hate women in general
paleotn
(17,778 posts)Cooper is a godsend in the governor's chair. He's held back an avalanche of awful.
DownriverDem
(6,205 posts)Proposal 3 which put abortion rights in our Constitution. It will be hard for the MAGA repubs to change it.
barbtries
(28,702 posts)Thankful that there are still sane states out there. NC elected the magat for the Senate and made the NC SC a republican court. We're fucked here in NC.
roamer65
(36,739 posts)We will just disregard a law like that the way we disregard federal MJ laws now.
calimary
(80,693 posts)If indeed there arent any getting started already.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,145 posts)eggplant
(3,891 posts)Just visit here: https://abortionfunds.org/
Timeflyer
(1,961 posts)Hekate
(90,189 posts)driver. Docs, nurses, clinics, and of course the woman or girl.
Hekate
(90,189 posts)spooky3
(34,300 posts)triron
(21,914 posts)Maybe look into it?
claudette
(3,376 posts)Roe v Wade, a very young friend of mine asked if she could use me as an excuse to tell her parents where she was visiting (in PA) when she went to NY for an abortion. Of course, as a pro choices, I was happy to help.
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WhiskeyGrinder
(22,145 posts)Liberty Belle
(9,528 posts)It's sunny here right now and abortion is legal everywhere in CA.
libtheoman
(7 posts)There are closer options. Wishing you the best[link:https://ncpolicywatch.com/2022/11/01/out-of-state-patients-spur-abortion-increase-in-north-carolina/#:~:text=Abortion%20is%20legal%20in%20North,providing%20abortions%2C%20among%20other%20restrictions.|
haele
(12,581 posts)We donate $5 a month to them just for this situation.
Good luck.
On edit -
https://brigidalliance.org/
Haele
Hekate
(90,189 posts)haele
(12,581 posts)The Brigid Alliance has been around for a while prior, as even when Roe was still in place, it was difficult for a lot of women to get their reproduce health care taken care of because distance to services, kids, etc...
That's what they came into being.
They've got a high rating for charities that actually spend the money on the services. So that's why we donate.
Haele
Hekate
(90,189 posts)Will send an email to my sis while drinking my morning coffee.
Mom named us Sheila and Brigid. The pre-Christian Brigid had a lot of aspects that I know of, and one was midwife. I never knew which aspects were carried over when the Christians adopted her, but it seems St Brigid of Kildare got that one.
DFW
(54,047 posts)I wrote to their email address asking for an address where I can send a check.
No Act Blue or Mastercard taking any 8% out of this--organizations like this need every cent that they can get.
Hekate
(90,189 posts)DFW
(54,047 posts)I know there are some on here who oppose abortion, but there are very few indeed who oppose abortion RIGHTS. A woman can always CHOOSE not to abort. But it takes the height of cruel arrogance to forbid her from making that choice for herself.
wryter2000
(46,016 posts)Is NY the closest state?
SharonAnn
(13,766 posts)As a young woman in the 1960s and early 1970s, I saw the impact an unwanted pregnancy had on the lives of women I knew.
Shotgun weddings, going away to visit grandma and giving the baby up for adoption, bearing the shame if you chose to keep the baby, illegal abortions and ,yes, self abortions with devices like coat hangers or rifle cleaning equipment.
And my circle of women were educated, professional, white women.
Before Roe v Wade, New York passed laws permitting abortion so women could travel to New York for a safe, legal abortion.
It was a big change. Roe v Wade was an enormous one.
Deep State Witch
(10,350 posts)My husband and I would be happy to be her "aunt" and "uncle" for a few days, if she would like to come for a visit. She would have to fly into Baltimore.
Joinfortmill
(14,231 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,145 posts)BidenRocks
(813 posts)This would not be an issue. Sigh!
erronis
(14,941 posts)I'm pretty sure we could advance our biological sciences to do the meiosis/fertilization sequence without the messy male presence. Of course the pleasurable bits can be taken care of also...
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,450 posts)Male gene is a mutation. Its a more recent
of the ancient changes in the human genome.
Originally humans were all females.
We start out in the womb as all females.
The fact some animals can change genders at will,and some carry both types of gonads it makes me wonder.
I read it on a science website. It could all be bunk. But maybe not. I dunno.
Interesting idea tho.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,145 posts)NullTuples
(6,017 posts)Upthevibe
(7,879 posts)As others have mentioned, it seems like there would be someplace closer than New York.
Also, I hope you're able to check out the charity that someone posted about.
tulipsandroses
(5,092 posts)Shes from NY so thats why its the first place she thought of. I almost feel guilty for encouraging her to move to GA after her divorce.
I will help her find somewhere closer to GA.
wnylib
(21,146 posts)locating a clinic and finding places to stay. Also includes info on financial aid available for some people.
https://www.ny.gov/abortion-new-york-state-know-your-rights/safe-abortion-access-all
Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)Warpy
(110,900 posts)Abortion bans are different in every state, another huge problem with overturning Roe. Those sanctimonious morons on the USSC created the biggest mess they could have managed. It's just so hard to keep up.
So far, NC is her best bet. They've got a ban, but it's not stupidly short like the GA ban. "Heartbeat," my flabby old ass.
Medical care dictated by a bunch of medically ignorant old fools with no personal boundaries and blame god for it is horrific.
wnylib
(21,146 posts)not just in NYC. Small towns and cities where it is less expensive than NYC. Also, an organization in NY that offers financial assistance for abortions. I linked to a state government website in my above post.
Warpy
(110,900 posts)but you did a good thing by linking to the financial help available there.
We haven't gotten that far here in NM, but the state is cheaper than dirt compared to anywhere in NY or CA. Our outmoded antiabortion laws were completely removed nearly 2 years ago, early in 2021. There are plans to build a large clinic in the southern part of the state, mostly to accept women from slave states like Texas and GA.
There are options and many of them won't break the bank.
Eventually, there will be a pipeline to a black market for abortion inducing pills, with travel plans as a backup in case counterfeit pills are out there.
We are not going back to lying on a kitchen table while someone punctures our uterus with a filthy crochet hook.
Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)Thanks to Mexican women.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/20/world/americas/mexico-abortion-pill-activists.html
No Paywall: https://archive.ph/sOz9X
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/15/world/americas/abortion-pills-mexico-us.html
No Paywall: https://archive.ph/hnlTF
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/with-pills-burner-phones-mexican-abortion-activists-prepare-roe-v-wade-overturn-2022-06-23/
Warpy
(110,900 posts)because most of my friends have daughters and granddaughters. While none of them live in slave states these days, that could change.
Hekate
(90,189 posts)tulipsandroses
(5,092 posts)I was venting this morning. Never really expected all the great responses. We have so much more to work with now. You guys rock !
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(7,520 posts)dflprincess
(28,057 posts)especially the hotel rooms & meal expenses.
ismnotwasm
(41,916 posts)To Seattle for abortion care. They are people who can, barely, afford this.
roamer65
(36,739 posts)Buses to IL, MI, NY, CA, OR, WA, etc.
Cheaper than plane flights and more regional in nature.
I hafta think its gonna start soon.
yankee87
(2,075 posts)I cant believe this is happening. Im sorry for whats happening in the country where women have no right to bodily autonomy.
Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)There's a PP in Fairview Heights, and another clinic that's not PP in Granite City. Don't remember the name of it right now.
Both are much closer to, say, Atlanta than NYC, and it won't be nearly as expensive to get there or stay there.