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Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:08 AM

The reality of abortion bans hits home

Got a call from a friend asking me for a loan to help with expenses to take her daughter to NY for an abortion. That was on Tuesday. Iím in GA. I said to her oh, no need to go to NY, the ban here in GA was overturned. She hadnít heard that. Sheís not someone that obsesses over news and politics like I do. I knew there was going to be an appeal, I had hoped that she could get it done before the appeal.

I had to call her this morning to tell her that ruling was overturned and the ban is back in effect.
So she will have to take time off from work. She has no more PTO left. Get plane tickets for 2, hotel accommodations. Sheís divorced, her ex lives in another state, She has 3 younger kids, that sheís trying to figure out who will care for them when she goes to NY.

I am more than happy to help. At least we donít have bounty hunter laws here in GA.
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tulipsandroses Nov 24 OP
usaf-vet Nov 24 #1
DownriverDem Nov 24 #2
ShazzieB Nov 24 #42
Gato Moteado Nov 25 #52
ShazzieB Nov 25 #59
Gato Moteado Nov 25 #60
ShazzieB Nov 25 #64
Gato Moteado Nov 25 #65
ShazzieB Nov 26 #66
barbtries Nov 24 #3
mwooldri Nov 24 #9
barbtries Nov 24 #16
paleotn Nov 24 #13
barbtries Nov 24 #15
paleotn Nov 24 #17
DownriverDem Nov 25 #53
barbtries Nov 25 #54
roamer65 Nov 25 #61
calimary Nov 24 #4
WhiskeyGrinder Nov 24 #11
eggplant Nov 24 #39
Timeflyer Nov 24 #14
Hekate Nov 24 #41
Hekate Nov 24 #40
spooky3 Nov 24 #5
triron Nov 24 #6
claudette Nov 24 #7
Liberty Belle Nov 24 #8
WhiskeyGrinder Nov 24 #10
Liberty Belle Nov 24 #12
libtheoman Nov 24 #18
haele Nov 24 #19
Hekate Nov 24 #22
haele Nov 24 #24
Hekate Nov 24 #27
DFW Nov 24 #32
Hekate Nov 24 #36
DFW Nov 24 #37
wryter2000 Nov 24 #20
SharonAnn Nov 24 #21
Deep State Witch Nov 24 #23
Joinfortmill Nov 24 #25
WhiskeyGrinder Nov 24 #47
BidenRocks Nov 24 #26
erronis Nov 24 #30
I_UndergroundPanther Nov 24 #44
WhiskeyGrinder Nov 24 #46
NullTuples Nov 24 #48
Upthevibe Nov 24 #28
tulipsandroses Nov 24 #29
wnylib Nov 24 #33
Genki Hikari Nov 25 #56
Warpy Nov 24 #31
wnylib Nov 24 #34
Warpy Nov 24 #38
Genki Hikari Nov 25 #57
Warpy Nov 25 #58
Hekate Nov 24 #35
tulipsandroses Nov 24 #45
BlueWaveNeverEnd Nov 24 #43
dflprincess Nov 24 #49
ismnotwasm Nov 24 #50
roamer65 Nov 25 #62
yankee87 Nov 25 #51
roamer65 Nov 25 #63
Genki Hikari Nov 25 #55

Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:41 AM

1. Keep us posted. Maybe some of us DUer will chip in.

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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:42 AM

2. Come to Michigan.

When abortion was legal in some states in the 1970s a friend of mine had to travel from Ohio to New York to get an abortion. She had to travel alone because she and her boyfriend did not have enough money for both of them to go & pay for it. Abortion rights are legal in Michigan thanks to the state passing Proposal 3 in the Midterms.

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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 04:31 PM

42. In 1972, I traveled from Illinois to NYC to get an abortion.

Flew out of Chicago early in the morning, flew back the same day. I guess a lot of women were doing the same thing, because the clinic I used actually ran a free airport shuttle bus to pick up patients at the airport and take us back afterwards.

The only snag I hit was that I got back to Chicago later than I planned and missed the limo that would have taken me back to the college town where I was living and going to school at the time. Took CTA bus to downtown Chicago, spent the night in the Greyhound bus station, and caught the first bus home in the morning.

If I'd had the $, I'd have stayed in a hotel in New York and flown back the next day, but the cost of just getting there and back stretched my financial resources to the max. I have no regrets except for not planning things out a little better.

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Response to ShazzieB (Reply #42)

Fri Nov 25, 2022, 08:48 AM

52. wow....that's sad that you had to spend the night at the greyhound station after a medical procedure

...like that and then have to ride a greyhound bus back to school. things shouldn't have to be that difficult for women. but thank goodness everything turned out OK.

which college town were you living in? champagne? normal?

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Response to Gato Moteado (Reply #52)

Fri Nov 25, 2022, 05:29 PM

59. DeKalb

Only 60 miles from Chicago, so it wasn't a very long bus ride.

The night in the bus station kind of sucked, but overall, I was proud of myself for the way I coped with everything. I was only 22 at the time, but I always was a very self-sufficient, "I can handle this, just give me a minute to figure things out" kind of person.

Anti-choicers who clutch their pearls and insist that abortion should be outlawed because "It's a devastating experience that leaves extreme psychological damage and we must protect women from it!!! really piss me off. I can believe that's the case for some (people are all individuals and can have vastly different reactions to similar situations), but they are a small minority (there's a ton of research that supports this). I've BEEN there, so they can just fuck off, because I don't need anyone trying to tell me how MY OWN experience affected me!

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Response to ShazzieB (Reply #59)

Fri Nov 25, 2022, 07:49 PM

60. you rock!

are you from chicago originally?

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Response to Gato Moteado (Reply #60)

Fri Nov 25, 2022, 08:40 PM

64. Sort of, I guess?

I was born in Chicago, but i haven't lived there since I was a baby and spent most of my childhood in another part of the country entirely. (My parents moved us around way too damned much, but that's a whole other story.)

We were back in Illinois (in a different part of the state) for my last two years of high school. I decided to go to NIU because they had a program for what I thought I wanted to major in at the time (andnn I ended up majoring in something completely different, lol). Met and married a guy from the Chicago surburbs, and at this point in my life, I feel like my roots are in the Chicago metro area, if not the city itself.

I ❤ Chicago, and I am proud to have been born there, but not sure if I'm entitled to claim it as my "home town."

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Response to ShazzieB (Reply #64)

Fri Nov 25, 2022, 10:31 PM

65. so, you live in the burbs now?

i was born and raised in the city. went to lane tech high school, right down the street from wrigley field. left chicago in 1990, 5 years after i graduated from college (loyola) and now i'm in costa rica.

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Response to Gato Moteado (Reply #65)

Sat Nov 26, 2022, 12:40 AM

66. Yes, my spousal unit and I have been living in the burbs for over 30 years now.

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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:42 AM

3. probably too late,

but i think she can still get one here in NC - that would be closer and cheaper.
good luck. thankfully she has you!

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Response to barbtries (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 12:06 PM

9. NC bans the procedure after 20.5 weeks.

Except in case of life of parent, of course.

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Response to mwooldri (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 12:12 PM

16. that is a consideration.

i was making the assumption that she wasn't that far along but of course i don't know.

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Response to barbtries (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 12:09 PM

13. My first thought was Planned Parenthood in Asheville...

but there are still restrictions in NC that might overly complicate matters.

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Response to paleotn (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 12:12 PM

15. give the republicans a few more months

and women here will have to travel for abortions.

i hate republicans and they hate me. as they hate women in general

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Response to barbtries (Reply #15)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 12:14 PM

17. Exactly.

Cooper is a godsend in the governor's chair. He's held back an avalanche of awful.

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Response to barbtries (Reply #15)

Fri Nov 25, 2022, 10:15 AM

53. Michigan passed

Proposal 3 which put abortion rights in our Constitution. It will be hard for the MAGA repubs to change it.

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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #53)

Fri Nov 25, 2022, 10:18 AM

54. go Michigan!

Thankful that there are still sane states out there. NC elected the magat for the Senate and made the NC SC a republican court. We're fucked here in NC.

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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #53)

Fri Nov 25, 2022, 08:13 PM

61. The only way they can now attempt to nullify it in MI is with a federal abortion ban.

We will just disregard a law like that the way we disregard federal MJ laws now.

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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:44 AM

4. Wonder how soon we'll have a new "underground railway".

If indeed there arenít any getting started already.

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Response to calimary (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 12:08 PM

11. Abortion funds already help people get abortions by providing travel, funding and lodging logistics.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 02:41 PM

39. Yes! You can find local funds via the National Network of Abortion Funds...

Just visit here: https://abortionfunds.org/

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Response to calimary (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 12:10 PM

14. And runaway pregnant women laws, with bounties for bagging one.

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Response to Timeflyer (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 02:44 PM

41. You didn't know about Texas? You can get 10 grand for turning in anyone involved including the Uber

Ödriver. Docs, nurses, clinics, and of course the woman or girl.

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Response to calimary (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 02:42 PM

40. Happening now

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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:46 AM

5. would coming to Virginia be cheaper? Youngkin hasn't been able to change our law yet. nt

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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:48 AM

6. I bet it's much less expensive here in NM

Maybe look into it?

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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 11:52 AM

7. Back before

Roe v Wade, a very young friend of mine asked if she could use me as an excuse to tell her parents where she was visiting (in PA) when she went to NY for an abortion. Of course, as a pro choices, I was happy to help.

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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 12:08 PM

10. Have her call her local abortion fund. They will help.

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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 12:38 PM

19. The Brigid Alliance is a resource to find funds and lodging for abortion travel.

We donate $5 a month to them just for this situation.

Good luck.

On edit -
https://brigidalliance.org/

Haele

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Response to haele (Reply #19)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 12:56 PM

22. My sister's name is Brigid, and I will send her this link. How did you find them, Haele?

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Response to Hekate (Reply #22)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 01:05 PM

24. As soon as Texas started their bounty, there was a show on charities that help women who need aborti

The Brigid Alliance has been around for a while prior, as even when Roe was still in place, it was difficult for a lot of women to get their reproduce health care taken care of because distance to services, kids, etc...
That's what they came into being.
They've got a high rating for charities that actually spend the money on the services. So that's why we donate.

Haele

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Response to haele (Reply #24)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 01:21 PM

27. That's good to know. I'm exploring their site now, & have already signed up for emails...

Will send an email to my sis while drinking my morning coffee.

Mom named us Sheila and Brigid. The pre-Christian Brigid had a lot of aspects that I know of, and one was midwife. I never knew which aspects were carried over when the Christians adopted her, but it seems St Brigid of Kildare got that one.




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Response to haele (Reply #19)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 01:42 PM

32. I have never heard of them

I wrote to their email address asking for an address where I can send a check.

No Act Blue or Mastercard taking any 8% out of this--organizations like this need every cent that they can get.

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Response to DFW (Reply #32)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 02:12 PM

36. Let us know what you find out. I haven't got that far, and will have to leave for the day soon.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #36)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 02:25 PM

37. If I hear from them, I will pass it on to all of DU

I know there are some on here who oppose abortion, but there are very few indeed who oppose abortion RIGHTS. A woman can always CHOOSE not to abort. But it takes the height of cruel arrogance to forbid her from making that choice for herself.

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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 12:47 PM

20. Damn

Is NY the closest state?

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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 12:56 PM

21. I remember those days. Finding illegal abortion providers and loaning money for it.

As a young woman in the 1960ís and early 1970ís, I saw the impact an unwanted pregnancy had on the lives of women I knew.

Shotgun weddings, going away ďto visit grandmaĒ and giving the baby up for adoption, bearing the shame if you chose to keep the baby, illegal abortions and ,yes, self abortions with devices like coat hangers or rifle cleaning equipment.

And my circle of women were educated, professional, white women.

Before Roe v Wade, New York passed laws permitting abortion so women could travel to New York for a safe, legal abortion.

It was a big change. Roe v Wade was an enormous one.

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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 01:02 PM

23. Come To Maryland!

My husband and I would be happy to be her "aunt" and "uncle" for a few days, if she would like to come for a visit. She would have to fly into Baltimore.

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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 01:05 PM

25. Wow. Getting real, folks.

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Response to Joinfortmill (Reply #25)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 08:49 PM

47. People faced barriers like this before Dobbs.

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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 01:13 PM

26. If men got pregnant

This would not be an issue. Sigh!

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Response to BidenRocks (Reply #26)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 01:27 PM

30. If men had to go through any part of gestation, there'd be no more men involved.

I'm pretty sure we could advance our biological sciences to do the meiosis/fertilization sequence without the messy male presence. Of course the pleasurable bits can be taken care of also...

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Response to erronis (Reply #30)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 07:25 PM

44. Well I read somewhere that the

Male gene is a mutation. Its a more recent
of the ancient changes in the human genome.

Originally humans were all females.
We start out in the womb as all females.
The fact some animals can change genders at will,and some carry both types of gonads it makes me wonder.

I read it on a science website. It could all be bunk. But maybe not. I dunno.

Interesting idea tho.

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Response to BidenRocks (Reply #26)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 08:48 PM

46. Men can get pregnant, and abortion is still an issue.

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Response to BidenRocks (Reply #26)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:44 PM

48. Some men do. Perhaps you mean if more men could?

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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 01:24 PM

28. tulipsandroses ..............

As others have mentioned, it seems like there would be someplace closer than New York.

Also, I hope you're able to check out the charity that someone posted about.

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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 01:25 PM

29. Thank you all for all for the suggestions and resources

Sheís from NY so thatís why itís the first place she thought of. I almost feel guilty for encouraging her to move to GA after her divorce.

I will help her find somewhere closer to GA.

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Response to tulipsandroses (Reply #29)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 01:58 PM

33. This website might help with

locating a clinic and finding places to stay. Also includes info on financial aid available for some people.

https://www.ny.gov/abortion-new-york-state-know-your-rights/safe-abortion-access-all

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Response to tulipsandroses (Reply #29)

Fri Nov 25, 2022, 05:00 PM

56. This site will also help find a facility.

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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 01:29 PM

31. Charlotte, NC is closer and a hella lot cheaper than NYC

Abortion bans are different in every state, another huge problem with overturning Roe. Those sanctimonious morons on the USSC created the biggest mess they could have managed. It's just so hard to keep up.

So far, NC is her best bet. They've got a ban, but it's not stupidly short like the GA ban. "Heartbeat," my flabby old ass.

Medical care dictated by a bunch of medically ignorant old fools with no personal boundaries and blame god for it is horrific.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #31)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 02:01 PM

34. There are clinics all over NY state

not just in NYC. Small towns and cities where it is less expensive than NYC. Also, an organization in NY that offers financial assistance for abortions. I linked to a state government website in my above post.




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Response to wnylib (Reply #34)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 02:25 PM

38. Even upstate is more expensive than NC

but you did a good thing by linking to the financial help available there.

We haven't gotten that far here in NM, but the state is cheaper than dirt compared to anywhere in NY or CA. Our outmoded antiabortion laws were completely removed nearly 2 years ago, early in 2021. There are plans to build a large clinic in the southern part of the state, mostly to accept women from slave states like Texas and GA.

There are options and many of them won't break the bank.

Eventually, there will be a pipeline to a black market for abortion inducing pills, with travel plans as a backup in case counterfeit pills are out there.

We are not going back to lying on a kitchen table while someone punctures our uterus with a filthy crochet hook.

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Response to Genki Hikari (Reply #57)

Fri Nov 25, 2022, 05:17 PM

58. Thanks! That's great to know

because most of my friends have daughters and granddaughters. While none of them live in slave states these days, that could change.

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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 02:08 PM

35. You are a good friend & you've inspired a good thread

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Response to Hekate (Reply #35)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 08:45 PM

45. Thank you, and this thread shows why I love DU

I was venting this morning. Never really expected all the great responses. We have so much more to work with now. You guys rock !

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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 04:45 PM

43. I'm so sorry that she has this extra cost and stress

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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 09:54 PM

49. It might be cheaper in Minnesota

especially the hotel rooms & meal expenses.

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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2022, 10:00 PM

50. My friend flew her daughter up from Texas I think

To Seattle for abortion care. They are people who can, barely, afford this.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #50)

Fri Nov 25, 2022, 08:15 PM

62. Makes me wonder when the abortion buses are going to start running.

Buses to IL, MI, NY, CA, OR, WA, etc.

Cheaper than plane flights and more regional in nature.

I hafta think itís gonna start soon.

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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Fri Nov 25, 2022, 05:36 AM

51. What country is this?

I canít believe this is happening. Iím sorry for whatís happening in the country where women have no right to bodily autonomy.

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Response to yankee87 (Reply #51)

Fri Nov 25, 2022, 08:19 PM

63. ...

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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Fri Nov 25, 2022, 04:58 PM

55. St Louis Metro on the Illinois side is much closer and cheaper

There's a PP in Fairview Heights, and another clinic that's not PP in Granite City. Don't remember the name of it right now.

Both are much closer to, say, Atlanta than NYC, and it won't be nearly as expensive to get there or stay there.

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