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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWe have seen this threat before. Rachel Maddow's podcast Ultra tells the story
Of America First. Illuminating, riveting, and if we are smart, instructive.
Its as if the invisible forces who cultivated the Lauren Boberts and EmptyGs of our era studied this history. Im persuaded they did. The circus like tactics, the profoundly cynical and anti-American beliefs cloaked in the flag are all too familiar. If you havent listened yet, please do. Wherever you listen to podcasts. If you dont this is a good reason to start.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rachel-maddow-presents-ultra/id1647910854

Samrob
(4,298 posts)mahina
(17,111 posts)2naSalit
(81,975 posts)Recently released for public view, like the 72 year rule?
mahina
(17,111 posts)triron
(21,590 posts)mahina
(17,111 posts)John Favreau Offline. Theres a lot here.
flying rabbit
(4,546 posts)Looks fascinating. Just downloaded them all. Thanks.
mahina
(17,111 posts)Im curious what you think about it. Aloha.
mitch96
(13,189 posts)FDR and the new deal...They liked the way Hitler treated big business..
The Businessman's plot was found out and never got going. When the nazi got involved it got started again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot
This is where I first heard it on a PBS radio program from the BBC years ago...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007tbs0
What amazes me is all this stuff is in the library of congress!!! It's been known for years.
Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it.
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Hassin Bin Sober
(25,968 posts)Kablooie
(18,397 posts)I was surprised at how familiar it all felt.
And history has forgotten all about them until now.
ramapo
(4,577 posts)I knew there was a Nazi-movement pre-WWII. I knew about America First and Lindburgh. I knew about the isolationists and anti-immigration/anit-jew zealots
The rest? I'm 67 years old, well read, and didn't have a fucking clue about the extent that the Nazi influence went in Congress and society. No idea about the sedition trials. Or the terrorist attacks.
It was all so very familiar. Shockingly so. It was a very established movement thruout the country.
I've started a book on the era, "Hitler's Friends". He had many here.
mahina
(17,111 posts)Jewish conspiracies and Protocols of Zion when shed had to much to drink. Everyone thought she was just nuts.
This woman was her friend since they were children. They were not really close friends. They were still pals until they died but my Grandmother thought she was out of her mind to believe that garbage.
When I asked my grandmother about it she said Ina is not very bright in some ways.
Now I understand where the poison came from. Im thankful my family never ate it. I have to wonder if I would think the way I do if they had.
Talitha
(6,215 posts)Would love to share them with someone who doesn't have any devices.
Thanks!
mahina
(17,111 posts)(Apple) Download an app. Mine is just called Podcast but the url is https://www.apple.com/apple-podcasts/
On your app search for Ultra Maddow
Once youve found the podcast play an episode
Poke around for an option that looks like save or check settings, scroll down to the bit about downloading and deleting played episodes.
Thats the best Ive got at hand. If you are a Windows user Im not sure but you can certainly find a way on google.
Good luck and thank you for sharing with your friend. Aloha.
Talitha
(6,215 posts)
mahina
(17,111 posts)Wishing you the very best luck
W T F
(1,138 posts)Hong Kong Cavalier
(4,564 posts)Simply frightening.
I'm glad someone out there noticed. I only wish we could get more people to see the road ahead.
electric_blue68
(14,016 posts)bc I didn't know how big this Pro-Nazis movement had gotten in the USA, and higher ups affected.
Yeah, knew about Lindberg, and Nazi rallies at the older MSG, but not all the rest! Wow
Highly recommend!👍
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)mahina
(17,111 posts)It took her about a year of work, not to mention the others who worked on it. I realize we listen to ads but is that where the money comes from? I wonder how the decisionmakers think about this.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Hard to believe actual ad time would fund it.
JHB
(37,039 posts)...i.e., her show that has ads.
Other podcasts have ads, or limp along on listener contributions.
moondust
(19,594 posts)From this day forward, its going to be only America first, Trump said during his (2017) Inauguration, invoking a phrase that has troubling roots in nineteen-forties nativism and anti-Semitism. About a week later, Konstantin von Notz, a Green Party parliamentarian in the German Bundestag, tweeted, America First is an update of _Deutschland, Deutschland über alles _. . .
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https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/deutschland-uber-alles-and-america-first-in-song
mahina
(17,111 posts)Samrob
(4,298 posts)to believe it while others simply ignored it. Much too focused on bashing HRC.
treestar
(82,366 posts)amazing parallels. I recall TFG going on about America First.