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"You have Joe Biden, still, purging military heroes who don't want to get a vaccine," said Booth (Fox News Disinformation Bimbo)
It's a mischaracterization of the idea that Biden is purging the anti-vaccine people. The reality is that because soldiers are sent all over the world, they're required to have all vaccines from Malaria to Hep A and B, the flu vaccine each year, as well as specific immunization for the country to which they're being deployed, all of which are listed here.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/fox-commentator-melts-down-over-vaccinations-saying-she-s-going-to-be-sent-to-a-concentration-camp/ar-AA14CDMD?cvid=bb3796545c5449eab921ba5945664f4c
For your information -
https://www.health.mil/MHSHome/Military%20Health%20Topics/Health%20Readiness/Immunization%20Healthcare/Vaccine%20Recommendations/Vaccine%20Recommendations%20by%20AOR#PACOM
Ray Bruns
(4,110 posts)They just said, Go down to the mess deck and get your shot.
Wounded Bear
(58,691 posts)Mickju
(1,805 posts)Aristus
(66,436 posts)Of course, I served in the days before FOX News started trying to tell everyone what to think.
When I was getting ready for deployment to the Gulf in 1991, I was told to get a typhoid shot. I told them I had already had it in Basic Training. They said: "Well, you're getting it again." I got it again. Sore arm and everything.
Prof. Toru Tanaka
(1,980 posts)I never thought of saying no to them and that included a cholera shot for the year I served a remote tour.
Looking back, I am thankful to be vaccinated against many different diseases and I will be getting another COVID booster this coming month. Instead of doubting science, I trust the knowledge of those who know much more about it than I do.
mahina
(17,692 posts)Understanding peoples distaste for Twitter, maybe their Facebook page?
oldsoftie
(12,584 posts)I did NOT like that because ive always HATED needles & would usually need to "psych myself up" to get one. I found out that day that surprise is also a way around the fear. I didnt have a chance to get nervous!
EYESORE 9001
(25,965 posts)Nothing optional about it. This was at a time when people were actually dying from the vaccine, mind you.
appalachiablue
(41,168 posts)and I was really annoyed. Many years later I heard about issues with the Swine Flu Vaccine, esp. that many young, healthy soldiers were wiped out and laid up after receiving it at bases. Later I also met a middle aged man who had Guillaume Barre syndrome, possibly related to the SFV.
Oh well, all in the effort to prevent infection and stay healthy. A strong reaction to a vaccine may be an indication that your body is responding and active so I've read.
Farmer-Rick
(10,201 posts)I have a friend who can't take most vaccines and has to get special ones made up for him without a specific chemical in it.
He got his COVID vaccine made special for him and he didn't have to pay for it. His Mom was the same way. But she died of COVID before they got the vaccine out.
appalachiablue
(41,168 posts)hesitant because of a slight reaction to previous flu shots in the 2000s and 1990s (after the 1970s Swine Flu shot) .
I was with my mom for the later shots. She was in her late 60s and did fine, but after leaving the RX I felt weak and spaced for an hour or two. Wimp! I wondered about it, am over it but will mention to the pharmacist next week when I get the new flu shot.
I just read online that adverse/allergic reactions to vaccines include breathing/heart problems, fever, swelling, etc. which I never had.
(Years ago a corneal specialist said to stop using my contact lens solution because the * thimerosol preservative in it was causing irritation in my eyes, after years with no problem. The body can change I guess.Thimerosol is derived from mercury I think and may be the chemical your friend is allergic to, like other people. Thimerosol and the many vaccines given to children were debated years back but I didn't follow it closely).
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/thimerosal/index.html
I think the weird response I had to vaxes was related to my body building up strong immunity, at least I hope so. Anyway, it's all's good, thanks for replying & stay well!
Farmer-Rick
(10,201 posts)Yeah, bodies change over time. I suddenly had a reaction to aspirin when I use to take it all the time.
Take care of yourself.
Red Pest
(288 posts)The Guillaume Barre syndrome link to influenza and to influenza vaccines is not completely clear. Here is a link to a review article by Vellozzi et al. 2014. Guillain-Barré Syndrome, Influenza, and Influenza Vaccination: The Epidemiologic Evidence. Clinical Infectious Diseases, Volume 58, Issue 8, 15 April 2014, Pages 11491155, https://doi.org/10.1093/cid/ciu005
(alternative link: https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/58/8/1149/355966#5094598)
Based on my quick read, while there is a small, but not consistent link between flu vaccines and GBS, there is also a link (a bit more significant) between GBS and an influenza infection. This link appears to vary depending upon the particular flu season and, therefore, the influenza strain.
albacore
(2,404 posts)..until I looked at my shot card.
immunizations are a readiness issue.
Wounded Bear
(58,691 posts)It was shot time, line up and roll up your sleeves.
Some times they told what they were, but not necessarily.
Prof. Toru Tanaka
(1,980 posts)sarge43
(28,942 posts)My vac book is almost as thick as an old NYC phone book.
About that readiness, fun fact via The Oxford Companion to American Military History
Revolutionary War: Casualty rate due to disease, 90% of the total number
Civil War: 71.4% per 1K
WWI: 16.5% per 1K
WWII: .6% per 1K
That significant drop in WWI in great part was because to a man the US Army was vaxx'd for typhoid, once called "the soldier's disease".
As far as this ole sarge is concerned, every one of those idiots should have had their 214 the same day. "You didn't read the contract, did you bunkie. With very little wiggle room, it's Orwellian. 'What isn't forbidden is mandatory'."
albacore
(2,404 posts)sarge43
(28,942 posts)The devil's in the fine print, Puddin'.
Norbert
(6,040 posts)pwb
(11,287 posts)Trust and not ask questions was my service. I stood in line and had 5 or six shots shot into my arm with air injectors one after another. You couldn't say hey wait a minute? No get your shots or get out IMO.
SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)FOX thinks this is too much for a member of the military to endure?
Farmer-Rick
(10,201 posts)You know that bacteria that can kill you from just a tiny scratch.
As a farmer, there are a lot of dangers from tetanus. I stepped on a rusty nail that went right through my foot. It took a year to properly heal. But I didn't have to worry about dying from tetanus.
Gore1FL
(21,151 posts)21 years in Uniform.
Vaccines keep your fellow solders alive. You refuse, and you are a danger to your fellow men and women in uniform.
Botany
(70,558 posts)November 25, 2022 144.00
November 24, 2022 123.00
November 23, 2022 1093.00
November 22, 2022 552.00
November 21, 2022 194.0
https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_coronavirus_deaths_per_day
Look if you don't want the shot don't get it but then you can't be in the military and BTW you have to
be vaccinated to be allowed into the News Corp building. The real question is why is Fox News purposely
spreading Covid 19 by spreading disinformation about the disease, vaccine, and masks?
jaxexpat
(6,843 posts)The right to free not-speech. At least that's the way their little minds see it. They'd prefer you not have the right to even ask it in the first place.
Botany
(70,558 posts).... they want to give you. Fox News really is a cancer on America.
calimary
(81,421 posts)That why I usually refer to them as Pox Noise.
Cyrano
(15,046 posts)I was in a line just like that. But there were about eight to ten nurses/medics on both sides giving us shots in both arms as we moved down the line. No one knew where in the world they were going to be sent, so we were all being immunized against everything from malaria to "Jungle Crud."
Nobody asked if you wanted the shots. You just got them. And you got annual boosters. Fox is full of shit.
Botany
(70,558 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 28, 2022, 08:36 PM - Edit history (1)
... after I started school there that I got sent to the nurses office and my brother and 1 other
kid who was new to the school district were already there and although I think I was up on all
my shots I got one or two more vaccinations and an old school TB test were they scratched off
about dime sized piece of skin and then put something on the wound. There was no questioning
about getting the shots and tests we all got them end of story.
Hieronymus Phact
(369 posts)If only they were treated with the urgency we treat a cancer in our bodies. Make fun of it all you want, but it will kill you.
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)Botany
(70,558 posts)Let them die. The best scientists in the world using some of the best technology and genetic information (thank bill Clinton.... human genome project) have found vaccines that will keep them alive and out of the hospital but they just know more about everything so fuck 'em.
There refusal to get vaccinated has allowed the C-19 virus to keep growing, mutating, and the disease to spread.
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,342 posts)as possible. Yes. Purge. Purge away. Purge on.
Midnight Writer
(21,782 posts)If they refuse to take their vaccines, what other orders are they going to refuse?
How much danger will they put their fellow soldiers in by refusing orders or believing indoctrination from the internet?
They are not fit to serve.
sakabatou
(42,170 posts)I always thought it was/is, "You're getting this due to [x-disease] is still active, and [y-location] has [y-diseases]. You need a vaccine for those so you don't spread it to your fellow service members."
Historic NY
(37,452 posts)General Washington ordered inoculations of cowpox to stop the spread of smallpox in the army.
appalachiablue
(41,168 posts)relayerbob
(6,550 posts)A significant threat to his or her entire company, and possibly many more.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)is dangerous.
Historic NY
(37,452 posts)He spent some time with our then Town Supervisor, who was considered one of the most active wartime community servants. Dr. Adams inoculated his family that live a short distance from the encampment.
[link:https://allthingsliberty.com/2020/07/lessons-from-an-outbreak-smallpox-in-the-hudson-highlands-1781/|]
Dr. Samuel Adams wrote a brief entry in the diary he had kept throughout his service as a surgeon attached to the Continental Armys artillery: inoculated my waiter and three children of Mr. Smith for the smallpox.[
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)Thanks for the history link!
RAB910
(3,508 posts)40RatRod
(532 posts)...the man in front of me got his shot and staggered over to the wall and fell in the floor. When the Major giving the shots told me to roll up my sleeves I said "What if I don't want the shots" to which she replied, "OK then. I will charge you with insubordination and have you locked up in the stockade." I quickly rolled up my sleeve and for the next 20 years I rolled up my sleeves and never had a problem.
relayerbob
(6,550 posts)Period
They should be getting dishonorable discharges, IMO
FromNY
(27 posts)Especially shipboard.
Ships are kept exceedingly clean to help prevent the spread of disease.
Sailors were stacked 3 high in the berthing compartments and racks were right next to one another when I was in.
jmowreader
(50,562 posts)And to be very blunt, this whole everyone in the military is a hero thing is making me very uncomfortable. The term should be reserved for those who do heroic things. If Fox News would have watched me sit in a chair writing reports and making phone calls all day, they definitely wouldnt have accused me of being a hero - but thats what I did in the Army.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)⬆️
republianmushroom
(13,653 posts)Submariner
(12,506 posts)it gave me a feeling that he didn't give a damn about my feelings on the issue.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,136 posts)Response to packman (Original post)
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spanone
(135,858 posts)multigraincracker
(32,713 posts)Typhoid Mary?
Sgent
(5,857 posts)sidelined mid-deployment due to COVID -- and that was with taking precautions but pre-vaccine? The nation's premier war machine was stuck in port due to this disease.
treestar
(82,383 posts)since he refused to cooperate with whatever MAGA agenda and the rest on the ship applauded him?
sarge43
(28,942 posts)It was a monumental cluster coitus mainly due to the tfg and his lackeys "What pandemic? There's no pandemic. Besides, it's the Chinese fault."
One crewman died and over a thousand, including the captain, tested positive.
xmas74
(29,675 posts)And the number of Dependas screaming about vaccines was insane. I can't imagine hearing the same crap 20 years ago
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)My Dad was army and he had to get shots too.
And the repukes call US pu**ies.
Skittles
(153,174 posts)UGH
littlewolf
(3,813 posts)got all my shots if I wanted them or not
the option was UCMJ refusing an order
I hated some of em ... had to wait to give
blood 6 months because of one ... but
2 choices ... pick one ...