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[GenXer47]

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[Gore1FL]

1. Apple's response should be

"Not at all, but Twitter sure is hate-filled since you bought it." This is why we pulled our advertising, and perhaps the Twitter iPhone app."

[grumpyduck]

2. "Hey, Elon, it's your platform, so you can run

whatever you want on it. Meanwhile, it's our company, so we can advertise wherever we goddam well fucking please. So fuck off."

[Hugh_Lebowski]

3. You can't be arrested for your speech, when spoken to other people (like with your voice)

Nor can you be if you hand out pamphlets on a sidewalk, or someone publishes a book of your writings (be that you or some third party publisher).

Unless of course it violates laws about making illegal threats, etc.

Your 'speech' on social media, however, is PRODUCT. Its appearance (or non-appearance) thereon is arbitered by the platform owners, and they can refuse to host what you wrote just like the NYT doesn't have to publish every LTTE they receive.

First Amendment doesn't guarantee anyone a worldwide soap-box, esp. not one provided at someone else's expense.

[Caliman73]

17. Simply put...

You can say whatever the hell you want, but not in my house... Don't like it? Get the fuck out!


We can have a discussion about whether certain social media companies are too big and too monopolistic, but that is not a "Free Speech" discussion as you pointed out.

[C_U_L8R]

4. Does Muck believe in free advertising?

A victim of collision on the open sea
Nobody ever said that life was free
Sank, swam, go down with the ship
But use your freedom of choice
I'll say it again in the land of the free
Use your freedom of choice
Your freedom of choice
In ancient Rome
There was a poem
About a dog
Who found two bones
He picked at one
He licked the other
He went in circles
He dropped dead
Freedom of choice
Is what you got
Freedom of choice!

[Trenzalore]

5. I haven't been over to Twitter in years

but from what I'm reading it is being bombarded with porn and hate speech.

Advertisers don't like advertising in mediums where they are bombarded with porn and hate speech. That is why they had all the paid moderators lol.

[Cha]

6. Ask muskRatFucker if he Hates

Democracy... & Why he Banned those exercising their "Free Speech"?

[dalton99a]

7. +1. The richest man on the planet also wants to be the most powerful man on the planet.

Sick motherfucker.

[Cha]

9. that brings to mind.. The bigger

they are the harder they fall.

Be ironic if the $44 Billion dollar twitter is the one that does it.

[jimfields33]

14. I hope so. Twitter has been a cesspool for years.

Time to close up shop

[Kid Berwyn]

8. Apple doesn't want to support NAZI propaganda, I believe.

Hey, Elon! Wake up and smell the foul stank.

[Cha]

11. John Scalzi explains it well..

Link to tweet

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217416661

[Kid Berwyn]

13. How Elon Musk's Twitter reign magnified his brutal management style

Excerpt from The Guardian…

But some of what he’s done has gone beyond what has been reported or trickled into the public arena at Musk’s other companies. Part of that is by design. After a series of employee leaks, Tesla required its employees to “renew their vows” and sign new confidentiality agreements in 2018 that barred them from speaking with the media. The confidentiality agreement was the subject of a legal challenge from the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) for violating workers’ rights.

At Twitter, where the culture before Musk allowed for some degree of public pushback or critiques of company policy, employees – or now former employees – are also seeing their voices stifled. Several employees who publicly tweeted corrections or pushed back on assertions Musk made were fired. In one case, Musk publicly announced the termination of an engineer named Eric Frohnhoefer, tweeting “he’s fired” in response to Frohnhoefer’s tweet correcting an assessment Musk made about why the site was so slow. Musk later deleted the tweet. The Tesla CEO then made light of the terminations. Musk is also reportedly firing employees who’ve criticized him on Slack, the third-party messaging service employees use internally.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/19/elon-musk-management-style-twitter-tesla-spacex

We got to tax the Barbarian out of the Plutocrat. Thanks for grokking, Cha!

[Cha]

15. That's a Badge of Honor for Eric

Frohnhoefer and all those who've been fired by the twitter mad man.

Thank you for the article.. Bravo & Brava to those employees speaking out!

You're Welcome for the Grokking, Kid Berwyn.. I looked it up!

[Freethinker65]

10. People and corporations are free to leave Twitter. Musk cannot require anyone to stay.

[chriscan64]

12. Doesn't look like they hate free speech.

They just used theirs to pull advertising.

[Skittles]

16. WTF is wrong with people who DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT FREE SPEECH MEANS

it does NOT mean FREEDOM FROM CONSEQUENCES for what you say!!!!!!!!!!

[RobinA]

24. The Free Speech

message has become hopelessly bastardized in this country. Dumbed down to, "I can say whatever I want whenever and wherever I want." Drives me nuts!

[Skittles]

26. but they THEMSELVES want to literally limit speech

for example, DON'T SAY GAY.........

[Caliman73]

18. Idiot Musk should know Capitalism when he sees it.

He's supposed to be some kind of genius businessman. He doesn't recognize a shitty marketing situation? Apple doesn't advertise on Stormfront or MRA Weekly either. Why? Because the executives at Apple are smart enough to know that doing so will sink the brand.

Musk as rarely, if ever, been told NO in his life. Now that he is getting a small taste of NO, he is throwing a tantrum like a two year old.

[Galraedia]

19. Elon Musk is literally banning liberals and people who disagree with him

His whole "free speech" is an oxymoron whereas he's an actual moron. Seriously, Twitter has to be the worst acquisition of all time. Imagine spending $44 billion all to expose to the world that you're actually a complete dumba**. Cut off all government subsidies to this a**hole and see how long his billions last. He has no talent except sucking on the government's teat and then using the money from those companies to bail him out of his failed business adventures.

[C_U_L8R]

20. Freedom means

Apple can advertise where it damn pleases. And is free to kick some miscreant app out of its store. And the world can laugh as baby Musk throws tantrum after tantrum

[GoodRaisin]

21. He should just call "Tim Apple".

Oh wait, that’s Trump. Never mind, I’m starting to confuse the two…

[GoCubsGo]

22. He' a hopelessly confused megalomaniac.

The ignorant boob bought himself a company he knows nothing about, thinking he could run it the way he runs his other companies, while refusing to understand that he can't control who wishes not to be part of his new, little fiefdom. He's an entitled prick who thinks he owns the loyalty of the advertisers that came with the company. Too bad for him that life doesn't work that way, and neither do media businesses, social or otherwise.

[usedtobedemgurl]

23. I think it was Jeff T. who replied.....

It’s as if they (Apple) are using their right to free speech!

[bluesbassman]

25. It's gaslighting to enhance the feelings of victimhood among the White Nationalists.

Musk surely knows what is and isn’t Constitutional free speech. He, like Trump, also knows what riles up the rubes, and for whatever reason that serves his purposes.