So, they got the two top Oath Keepers for seditious conspiracy.

[lees1975]

And this was instigated by Trump, with plenty of evidence to show they responded to his call to come to Washington and to his orders to attack the Capitol.

So when is FP45 going to get indicted for seditious conspiracy, tried, convicted and sent to prison for 20 years?

[Eyeball_Kid]

1. The convictions set precedent.

Now, "seditious conspiracy" isn't an hypothesis. It's now documented in the US justice system as a real crime committed by Trump's worshippers. This becomes important, IMO, when the 14th Amendment is invoked to prevent candidates from taking political office. It's now much easier to point to the trials as confirmed evidence that seditious conspiracy was really committed on, before, and after 1/6/21. Anyone involved in sedition is no longer eligible to assume or remain in office. It's virtually guaranteed that lawyers are constructing briefs that will lead to the expulsion of office holders.

[GenXer47]

5. Clarence Thomas funded his wife's involvement

so he's the first that needs to go.

[progressoid]

2. When?

I'd say never.

[lees1975]

3. I think the Democratic Party's hopes for a large victory in 2024

are at least, in part, dependent on Trump being indicted and convicted.

If that doesn't happen, it will confirm that there are two Americas, one with laws for most people, one without consequences for the wealthy and powerful. And I think a lot of people, especially younger voters, will decide that if we're really not a nation of law and order, why vote?

[gab13by13]

4. Why go after seditious conspiracy

when there are numerous other crimes Trump committed that are cut and dried? Trump is 76 years old, convicting him of impeding an official act of Congress, obstruction of justice, and crimes under the Espionage Act is a life sentence.

[pnwmom]

6. That was a major step, but they're still working to make the case as strong as possible.

There are at least two more major trials, of more Oath Keepers and some Proud Boys, to go.

The only thing worse than this long wait is if they had charged Trump, taken him to trial, and lost.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

8. +1. . . .nt

[gab13by13]

10. No one suggested, at least I didn't,

indicting Trump without a rock solid case. I just wanted Trump and his inner circle investigated. DOJ treated Trump with kid gloves but now there is a new sheriff in town.

[Scrivener7]

15. Tfg is reacting badly to the new guy. Makes me hopeful.

[pnwmom]

18. You asked when he will be indicted and convicted, and that's what I answered. nt

[republianmushroom]

7. 22 months and counting DoJ

[gab13by13]

11. The special counsel is in charge now,

we already had one of Trump's pals, Steven Miller, subpoenaed before the DC grand jury. Jack Smith has a lot of time to make up.

[republianmushroom]

19. MORE DELAYS (?)

Attorney General Merrick Garland deliberated for weeks over whether to approve the application for a warrant to search former President Donald Trump’s Florida home, people familiar with the matter said, a sign of his cautious approach that will be tested over coming months.

Read more: https://www.wsj.com/articles/merrick-garland-weighed-search-of-trumps-mar-a-lago-for-weeks-11660601292

Notice the word weeks

[Beastly Boy]

16. I hope that your counting the months it took DOJ to successfully prosecute Rhodes

for seditious conspiracy has come to its fitting conclusion.

BTW, how did your studious undertaking affect the outcome?

...You were counting, weren't you?

[republianmushroom]

21. No I'm counting trumps indictment.

[Beastly Boy]

22. So what are you counting, what is the purpose for counting, and what does

the mention of DOJ in your post have to do with the counting?

[republianmushroom]

23. How long it takes the DoJ to indict trump. Do you think they should not indict ?

[Beastly Boy]

24. I think it's way above my pay grade to second-guess DOJ.

And that includes the counting of time they are taking to make a decision to indict. I think this kind of counting is absolutely pointless, if not counter-productive. DOJ is not beholden to any kind of deadlines, and counting how long the process takes them implies they are. That's absolutely false.

[republianmushroom]

25. We do know that the DoJ doesn't count time with the statutes of imitation running out

with the Mueller investigation. Do you think they should not indict Trump ?

[Beastly Boy]

26. Nor should they. They are not in the counting business.

They are in the beyond reasonable doubt business. If they didn't find it in the Mueller report, they don't have a case to prosecute. Maybe it reflects badly on Mueller, which I doubt, but it certainly does not reflect on DOJ.

Should they indict Trump? You are asking for my opinion which reflects even less than the Mueller report, if at all, on DOJ. Yes, I think they should indict and prosecute Trump, despite my abysmal absence of competence in the subject I am opining on. But my opinion, being inconsequential as it is, doesn't create in DOJ a sense of obligation.

[republianmushroom]

27. thank you

[ToxMarz]

9. I think one the most satisfying results of the verdict isn't just the jail time for Elmer

It's knowing that his perception of himself as the most patriotic of patriots is bunk and will now be memorialized in history (and not some obscure fact of history) as a treasonous pariah that this country has rejected. The antithesis of how he sees himself, he is the poster child.

[KS Toronado]

12. In his tiny brain, he probably believes he's the victim of ______?

[ShazzieB]

13. Not holding my breath about him getting sent to prison.

It would be a pleasant surprise,, but I really don't expect it. I think he'll be convicted of something, but at his age he may just be put on house arrest, and I'm okay with that. As much fun as it would be to see him behind bars, my biggest concern is that he become a convicted felon and be barred from running for office ever again.

I know some may feel that would be letting him off too lightly, but I think it would be much more severe punishment for him than it would be for most people. We're not talking about a normal human here. This is a guy who things he's the best, smartest, strongest, most amazing person who ever existed. The ignominy of being labeled a FELON, along with having to wear an ankle monitor and having his movements restricted, would send him into an apoplectic rage, and having to permanently give up his dream of ever being president again would crush him. If that's not punishment, I don't know what would be.

[Warpy]

14. Maybe never

but he'll likely go broke trying to keep himself out of it. I hope so.

I also expect some blowback as people who went to prison get out and realize he never did a damned thing for any of them and turn against him, publicly and loudly.

[Beastly Boy]

17. For the record, let's define "they". It's the much maligned United States Department of Justice.

And DOJ doesn't do guilt by association. Or deadlines. They do guilt beyond reasonable doubt, however long it takes.