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Irishxs

(622 posts)
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 06:08 PM Dec 2022

Did Sick Pay Days Pass or Fail?


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Did Sick Pay Days Pass or Fail? (Original Post) Irishxs Dec 2022 OP
Failed in the senate, as expected. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #1
That's from the House Vote earlier this week blogslug Dec 2022 #2
Failed. onecaliberal Dec 2022 #3
Another big win for big business and big money. Chainfire Dec 2022 #4
Everyone please understand lapfog_1 Dec 2022 #5
I doubt this will be an issue in 2024. Elessar Zappa Dec 2022 #7
Failed Beachnutt Dec 2022 #6
then Dems should make it an issue that the Repugs are not a party for the working class onetexan Dec 2022 #9
Harder to do that qazplm135 Dec 2022 #10
oh we, and the conservatives, all know Manchin's a wolf in sheep's clothing. Nothing new. onetexan Dec 2022 #12
That picture needs to be sent to every rail worker Beachnutt Dec 2022 #8
I want Biden to veto any bill that reaches his desk... mike_c Dec 2022 #11

lapfog_1

(31,794 posts)
5. Everyone please understand
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 06:25 PM
Dec 2022

Senate repukes were never going to pass a bill that favors the union (or even comes close)... because they want the workers to turn against Biden and Democrats. Biden understands that a rail strike while coming out of a pandemic, end of the child tax credit, China manufacturing supply (that supply chain) issues, would create havoc with our economy.

Repukes don't care.

Either screw the unions or run the risk of the coming recession being not the soft landing that lessens inflation, but a crash... which they will use to put DeSantis (the much more dangerous version of Trump) into the White House. Authoritarian rule comes to the USA... poor Ukraine (and NATO) offered up to the emerging Russia/China hegemony in Asia to Europe.

This is their game plan. And the vote today on the railroad strike that screwed the unions (and may yet lead to a wildcat strike) is certainly going to hurt Dems on taking the House/Senate/re-elect in 2 years.

The Machin vote wasn't good either... but his vote Aye wasn't enough to get to 60.

onetexan

(13,913 posts)
9. then Dems should make it an issue that the Repugs are not a party for the working class
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 06:40 PM
Dec 2022

they clearly don't care about helping middle class families put food on the table and make ends meet. They're all about further enriching the rich by ripping the shirts off the backs of working Americans.

mike_c

(36,960 posts)
11. I want Biden to veto any bill that reaches his desk...
Thu Dec 1, 2022, 06:50 PM
Dec 2022

...without seven days paid sick leave, but I know he won't. This is what labor power is all about. If government imposes terms that undermine union negotiation, including the right to strike when management imposes a unilateral new contract, then it stands with the robber barons. Full stop.

If Biden signs that bill he's hanging those workers out to dry. If they are willing to take on a strike, government has no business imposing terms that deny them that right, and most especially not on a one-off basis that says "we support your employment rights, but only when it's painless and convenient."

I'm a union man from my earliest days at work. I retired a union man-- and I have a decent retirement because my union fought for every benefit I enjoy. Government needs to step out of this matter and let the rail companies and their labor unions follow through on the process of negotiation and work actions, including strikes if employees are pushed to the point of willingness to stop work (and pay).

I'm sorry, and I probably need a cool down time out because I'm absolutely livid that a democratic administration isn't willing to go to bat for workers demanding rights that dems themselves acknowledge they should have. If we believe it, then suck it up and do whatever is necessary-- or just get out of the way and let the rail workers fight for themselves without kneecapping them in the name of timely Christmas deliveries. FFS!

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