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SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 02:54 PM Dec 2022

Ivanka Has The Fucking Nerve To Call Herself A Jew

Of course, she hasn't said a damn thing about her Anti-Semitic dad, or the fact he associates with outspoken Anti-Semites and Holocaust Deniers.

Not being part of her Failure of a father's 2024 campaign does not make her a decent person.

Fucking Coward! Is she afraid of losing her Trust Fund when he dies? She's a Piece Of Shit, just like her corrupt husband and her corrupt father.

Just another Phony Orthodox Jew, hiding behind her religion, like all the other typical Right Wing religious assholes.

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Ivanka Has The Fucking Nerve To Call Herself A Jew (Original Post) SoCalDavidS Dec 2022 OP
In her 'defense' she thinks "Jewishness" is a fashion accessory. nt Carlitos Brigante Dec 2022 #1
Maybe because the word "Jewish" is often followed by the word "Princess"? calimary Dec 2022 #22
Sounds about right to me! PatSeg Dec 2022 #29
well what do you know? 90-percent Dec 2022 #33
I knew it! 90-percent Dec 2022 #36
Of course, conservatives once again show that they know how to read the room. Initech Dec 2022 #2
Trumps falsely claimed they were Swedish keithbvadu2 Dec 2022 #3
I think Ivanka was already a Jewish American Princess no_hypocrisy Dec 2022 #4
..with Jared a Jewish American Prince whathehell Dec 2022 #24
Her husband is Jewish. Did she convert? maxsolomon Dec 2022 #5
Yes and yes. onenote Dec 2022 #8
I understood (it was a while ago) jimmil Dec 2022 #23
Different "denominations" of Judaism have different conversion rules, but all allow women to convert onenote Dec 2022 #34
It happens when you convert. imanamerican63 Dec 2022 #11
Perhaps she said, "Achoo." TheBlackAdder Dec 2022 #6
I'm an atheist and your criticism is uncalled for. brooklynite Dec 2022 #7
Agree but I think we can all agree that she has forfeited her right to say, "never again". grantcart Dec 2022 #9
Agree, plus I hate name calling womanofthehills Dec 2022 #10
She is Jewish since 2017 Tickle Dec 2022 #12
She's been Jewish since 2009. ancianita Dec 2022 #18
Before they married, TFG asked why Kushner wouldn't convert kskiska Dec 2022 #13
Worship of TFG, obviously... regnaD kciN Dec 2022 #14
Her Jewish husband took plenty of money from Saudis IronLionZion Dec 2022 #15
She's Jewish. Their father/daughter dynamic is a whole other subject. Solly Mack Dec 2022 #16
"As is her reticence on things people would think she should (or it is expected to) speak out about. Behind the Aegis Dec 2022 #19
Yes, I do too. Solly Mack Dec 2022 #25
As she and cuckold Jared take turns wanking MBS off. Pepsidog Dec 2022 #17
So do you think she should do battle with her dad publicly? Didn't she quit his circle after ancianita Dec 2022 #20
Um, well what about Jared? whathehell Dec 2022 #21
I Meant No Offense SoCalDavidS Dec 2022 #26
Well said peppertree Dec 2022 #28
JINO Aussie105 Dec 2022 #27
Well this thread is kind of ugly Sympthsical Dec 2022 #30
She converted so she's Jewish. xmas74 Dec 2022 #31
She calls herself a Jew because she's a Jew kst Dec 2022 #32
Thank you for this post LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2022 #39
Great job, everybody. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2022 #35
It's probably part of a "rebranding" effort tishaLA Dec 2022 #37
I am a convert to Judaism and I am not going to attack another convert LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2022 #38
I'm Attacking Her Hypocrisy SoCalDavidS Dec 2022 #40

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
36. I knew it!
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 06:06 PM
Dec 2022

the "la-la-la" part was incorporated in to the MYSTERY SCIENCE THEATER 3000 opening theme song!





-90% Jimmy

no_hypocrisy

(46,174 posts)
4. I think Ivanka was already a Jewish American Princess
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 03:09 PM
Dec 2022

before she converted.

She doesn’t care one wit about Jews.

jimmil

(629 posts)
23. I understood (it was a while ago)
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 05:21 PM
Dec 2022

That women could not convert to Judaism, even if they marry into a Jewish family. Men, however, could convert. A women had to be born Jewish. Tue or false???

onenote

(42,752 posts)
34. Different "denominations" of Judaism have different conversion rules, but all allow women to convert
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 06:01 PM
Dec 2022

There are various "denominations" of Judiaism - reform, conservative, orthodox, etc. The standards for converting vary from one to the next (and sometimes within a denomination), but all of them allow women to convert.

imanamerican63

(13,812 posts)
11. It happens when you convert.
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 04:08 PM
Dec 2022

Same for a Catholic, a Luthierian or any other religion. Some of my family has left the Catholic religion and claim another religion.

brooklynite

(94,721 posts)
7. I'm an atheist and your criticism is uncalled for.
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 03:44 PM
Dec 2022

Nobody gets to decide whether someone else is a "real" adherent of their chosen religion.

Tickle

(2,540 posts)
12. She is Jewish since 2017
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 04:14 PM
Dec 2022

But in Israel, it’s not that simple: You’re only Jewish if the rabbinic authorities say you’re Jewish

Israel’s chief rabbis made a proclamation: They were looking to change the guidelines on which Jewish conversions they recognize.

According to the proposed guidelines, they said in a statement, Ivanka Trump would be certified Jewish.

Solly Mack

(90,780 posts)
16. She's Jewish. Their father/daughter dynamic is a whole other subject.
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 05:02 PM
Dec 2022

As is her reticence on things people would think she should (or it is expected to) speak out about.

She converted and that's a case closed kind of thing.

She's Jewish.

Behind the Aegis

(53,979 posts)
19. "As is her reticence on things people would think she should (or it is expected to) speak out about.
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 05:07 PM
Dec 2022

I have a word for that. Not that she does or doesn't say/do something, but those who expect and demand it.

Solly Mack

(90,780 posts)
25. Yes, I do too.
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 05:23 PM
Dec 2022

But I also find myself guilty of it when something is so egregious that surely, just surely, something will be said now.

And even in duress, it is wrong. I know it. You know it. Other people know it.

But we sometimes voice our despair, our outrage, our confusion, without checking where it is coming from.

A single individual, no matter how high profile, does not represent everyone in any given group.

Being high profile makes them a target for every emotion held - and not all of those emotions are unbiased or free of prejudice.

A fair and deserved critique all too often is mingled with the unfair - the biased, the prejudicial, the bigoted.

For some, getting the bigotry in is the point. The outrage of the day is merely an excuse for them to do so. Something to glom on to.

For others, they don't see, can't see, or refuse to see, where the root of it actually lies.







ancianita

(36,132 posts)
20. So do you think she should do battle with her dad publicly? Didn't she quit his circle after
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 05:17 PM
Dec 2022

Jan 20 2021?

I wouldn't call her silence complicity.
What more likely defines her silence is that she's been so done with her dad since his term was over and he denied it.

Why do you accord her so much influence over her white nationalist dad; she's probably as put out with him as you are, but knows he's desperate to keep his base for 2024. Why do you demand she prove her faith when things are going badly enough for all of them.


from wikipedia

Raised as a Presbyterian Christian,[224] Trump converted to Orthodox Judaism in July 2009,[225][226] after studying with Elie Weinstock from the Modern Orthodox Ramaz School.[227] Trump took the Hebrew name "Yael" (Hebrew: יָעֵל, lit.?'ibex').[228][229] She describes her conversion as an "amazing and beautiful journey" which her father supported "from day one", adding that he has "tremendous respect" for the Jewish faith.[230] She attests to keeping a kosher diet and observing the Jewish Sabbath, saying in 2015: "We're pretty observant... It's been such a great life decision for me... I really find that with Judaism, it creates an amazing blueprint for family connectivity. From Friday to Saturday we don't do anything but hang out with one another. We don't make phone calls."[231] When living in New York City, she used to send her daughter to Jewish kindergarten. She said: "It's such a blessing for me to have her come home every night and share with me the Hebrew that she's learned and sing songs for me around the holidays."[230]

Trump and her husband made a pilgrimage to the grave of the Lubavitcher Rebbe, a popular prayer site, shortly before her father's election victory.[225][232] On May 22, 2017, the couple also accompanied her father on his first official visit to Israel as president. As part of the trip to Israel, her father became the first sitting U.S. president to visit the Western Wall .[233] Ivanka also visited the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial in western Jerusalem and the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in the Christian Quarter of the Old City of Jerusalem during the trip.[234]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivanka_Trump#Relationships_and_marriage

Is your issue about religion being used as a political tool and not being used as a political tool? Because religions have been embroiled in American politics since Father Coughlin in the 30's.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
26. I Meant No Offense
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 05:26 PM
Dec 2022

I myself am Jewish. I just find her to be contemptible in general. She's obviously a convert to Judaism, but my point is that if her religion were of value to her, she would have no problem condemning her father, and the Slime that he associates with.

But of course, she won't do that, because like the rest of her family, she's a Hypocrite. Incapable of calling out anti-semitism and Holocaust denial.

peppertree

(21,658 posts)
28. Well said
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 05:30 PM
Dec 2022

Zero principles, probably since the time she could ride a tricycle.

And now, she's become a weather vane and all-purpose demagogue - a chip off the old block, in just about every way.

xmas74

(29,675 posts)
31. She converted so she's Jewish.
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 05:38 PM
Dec 2022

It doesn't make her good at it. She's possibly in name only or someone who cherry picks.

Every faith has those people who are super shitty at following the tenants.

kst

(69 posts)
32. She calls herself a Jew because she's a Jew
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 05:42 PM
Dec 2022

She converted to Orthodox Judaism in 2009 (source: Wikipedia). Therefore she is a Jew.

She has the nerve to call herself a Jew because she is one.

Find something else to criticize her about.

If you're disappointed that a Jew would behave the way she does, say so. If you think she's a hypocrite, say so.

A bad Jew is still a Jew.

(Disclaimer: IANAJ.)

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
37. It's probably part of a "rebranding" effort
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 06:07 PM
Dec 2022

that's destined to fail. My guess is that she's intentionally distancing herself from anything "political"--although I'm not sure how one would construe antisemitism as political--and stay out of the spotlight for a while.

TBH, I don't want to hear from her. I'm sure she'd say "as a Jew, I..." and it would make me want to break things

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,518 posts)
38. I am a convert to Judaism and I am not going to attack another convert
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 07:52 PM
Dec 2022

Judaism has been a great home for me. I am more observant in some respects than some members and far less observant than other members of the faith. I am not comfortable attacking another convert.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
40. I'm Attacking Her Hypocrisy
Fri Dec 2, 2022, 08:36 PM
Dec 2022

Her daddy is associating with Anti-Semites and Holocaust Deniers, and is probably one himself.

But she won't publicly stand up to or criticize daddy because it might impact her.

She's Scum.

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