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Hekate

(90,829 posts)
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 04:43 PM Dec 2022

Op-Ed, LA Times on Fentanyl poisoning. This is not "Reefer Madness" of the old days...

I highly recommend the whole article, and have cross-posted this from Editorials.

No more ‘harmless’ recreational drug experimentation

ROBIN ABCARIAN

This is shocking: Poisoning by illicit fentanyl is now the leading cause of death for adults aged 18 to 45 in the U.S., says the federal government, surpassing suicide, gun violence and car accidents.

The tragic stories are becoming commonplace. Three young professionals in New York City ordered cocaine from the same delivery service and died alone after the coke turned out to be fentanyl. Three adults died in a home on the Venice canals after snorting what they thought was cocaine. A 17-year-old Eagle Scout in Northern California bought what he thought was a Percocet tablet and died slumped over the desk in his bedroom. A 15-year-old girl was found dead in the bathroom of her Los Angeles high school after swallowing what she thought was a prescription pain pill. Five West Point cadets on spring break in Florida were poisoned by fentanyl-laced cocaine.

You can’t really call most of these deaths and near-deaths overdoses, though they are usually described that way. “Overdose” to me implies the victims were aware of what they were ingesting and overdid it. (These are not people addicted to fentanyl; they haven’t developed a tolerance for opioids, although anyone who gets clean and relapses could be in danger of accidentally overdosing.) Instead, these are unwitting self-poisonings. The victims didn’t sign up for fetanyl.

MORE at page A18


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Op-Ed, LA Times on Fentanyl poisoning. This is not "Reefer Madness" of the old days... (Original Post) Hekate Dec 2022 OP
Yup. These are not ODs. They're fatal poisonings. SunSeeker Dec 2022 #1
It is absolutely imperative that take fentanyl seriously. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #2
Now come the folks who will call the article alarmist and say "its not that bad" WarGamer Dec 2022 #3
Intentionally putting fentanyl into anything is murder. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 2022 #4
I agree Hekate Dec 2022 #5
So Do I ProfessorGAC Dec 2022 #6
What I don't understand is why would dealers want to kill their customers Beaverhausen Dec 2022 #7
It doesn't make a whole lot of sense. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 2022 #8
Drug users often mix uppers and downers Genki Hikari Dec 2022 #9
Sure but most people aren't interested in speedballing. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 2022 #10

SunSeeker

(51,726 posts)
1. Yup. These are not ODs. They're fatal poisonings.
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 05:34 PM
Dec 2022

And the often only witness to who the pusher was is dead, so arrests are rarely made.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
2. It is absolutely imperative that take fentanyl seriously.
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 05:42 PM
Dec 2022

Time to stop making it into a joke just because some right-wing loon does a bogus "Halloween scare."

This shit is real. And deadly as fuck.

My wife, who works in the schools, did training for administering Narcan earlier in the term. Because kids are dying.



WarGamer

(12,484 posts)
3. Now come the folks who will call the article alarmist and say "its not that bad"
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 05:45 PM
Dec 2022

I've NEVER understood why some people are against people spreading the word re: Fentanyl.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,503 posts)
4. Intentionally putting fentanyl into anything is murder.
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 06:16 PM
Dec 2022

If you're cutting your coke with fentanyl, you're a murderer. If you're pressing it into pills and selling it as Percocet, you're a murderer. Putting it in anything without warning people is murder. Flat out.

ProfessorGAC

(65,212 posts)
6. So Do I
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 08:57 PM
Dec 2022

Knowingly put a deadly substance into anything is the same as the Tylenol/cyanide event.
That was murder & so is this.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,503 posts)
8. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 09:48 PM
Dec 2022

Not a lot of these people are super smart either. It could be that they’re trying to get their customers addicted. It could be that they think they’re enhancing whatever it is they’re selling. Putting a depressant into a stimulant seems incredibly stupid to me.

Whatever the reason, they’re killing people.

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
9. Drug users often mix uppers and downers
Mon Dec 5, 2022, 05:49 PM
Dec 2022

They get high on the uppers for fun, then need to come down, so they take a downer. Some users take one with the other to take the worst edges off both. Or they take coke, and then take heroin to come down a bit so they can do MORE coke. See: John Belushi. That's what he was doing when he was mixing coke and heroin.

Either way, the combination of uppers and downers becomes a vicious cycle, and one that's really--really--hard to break free of. When my mom worked drug rehab, she said that they had close to 0% success breaking the upper + downer patients of their addictions.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,503 posts)
10. Sure but most people aren't interested in speedballing.
Mon Dec 5, 2022, 06:27 PM
Dec 2022

That’s pretty advanced behavior. And people who are into it like to regulate their intake on their own.

These victims were just looking to do a few lines and party. They were murdered.

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