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lees1975

(3,838 posts)
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 08:24 PM Dec 2022

Maybe I am thinking too much about American democracy, and the founding and history of this country

but I think a call from a former President to suspend the constitution and put him back in the Presidency is unacceptable incitement, coming as it does from an angry psychopath who is still obviously in denial about his election loss and is trashing the constitution and making himself an enemy of constitutional law.

And I think this is a major crossing of the free speech line, enough to warrant more than just disqualifying him from running for office. Most countries find people who make statements like this either deranged, and put them in asylums, or enemies, and exile them or put them in prison.

And this article indicates that it is not possible to trust Republicans on this issue because they'd set aside or abolish the constitution's provision for the peaceful transition of power if they thought it would work for them.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/leading-house-republican-trumps-call-suspend-constitution-2024/story?id=94397805

Suspend the constitution and put me back in the White House against the will of the American people? Seriously?

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Maybe I am thinking too much about American democracy, and the founding and history of this country (Original Post) lees1975 Dec 2022 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Baked Potato Dec 2022 #1
It is, and in a more normal political environment, he would be kicked to the curb lees1975 Dec 2022 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Baked Potato Dec 2022 #3
I thought it might fit. lees1975 Dec 2022 #4
He's entitled to his political opinions Zeitghost Dec 2022 #5
In a democracy, people can vote out democracy and install a dictatorship? Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #6

Response to lees1975 (Original post)

lees1975

(3,838 posts)
2. It is, and in a more normal political environment, he would be kicked to the curb
Sun Dec 4, 2022, 10:21 PM
Dec 2022

by his own party. But some of his supporters are really anti-social, anti-everything kind of people and they take these statements as signals from him to commit violence. That's what he's really trying to do, and it is against the law to threaten the United States government, which is what his public statements like this are doing.

Makes the statements by the defendants in the insurrectionist trials that their priority is to "defend the constitution" look stupid since their inamorata isn't interested in defending it.

Response to lees1975 (Reply #2)

Zeitghost

(3,839 posts)
5. He's entitled to his political opinions
Mon Dec 5, 2022, 12:55 AM
Dec 2022

His status as a former President changes nothing. People are allowed to have bad ideas in this country. The First Amendment is clear and has no personal or occupational conditions that must be met.

Irish_Dem

(46,381 posts)
6. In a democracy, people can vote out democracy and install a dictatorship?
Mon Dec 5, 2022, 01:31 PM
Dec 2022

One third of the country is onboard with this idea.

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