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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,703 posts)
Mon Dec 5, 2022, 12:29 PM Dec 2022

Good morning from Santa Ana, California, where Michael Avenatti is to be sentenced for stealing ...

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Good morning from Santa Ana, California, where Michael Avenatti is to be sentenced for stealing millions of dollars from clients. Judge James Selna takes the bench at 9 a.m. Prosecutors are asking for nearly 18 years. Follow this thread for live updates from the courtroom. 🧵


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Good morning from Santa Ana, California, where Michael Avenatti is to be sentenced for stealing ... (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2022 OP
Reprehensible scumbag. Ocelot II Dec 2022 #1
Oh, he had a lot of fans here. BlackSkimmer Dec 2022 #11
Me, too, and I recall getting a ration of shit Ocelot II Dec 2022 #15
Yep, me too. BlackSkimmer Dec 2022 #16
Oh, yeah. There were even some who wanted him to run for President. MineralMan Dec 2022 #19
Avenatti himself announced he was considering it, summer of 2018. Ocelot II Dec 2022 #21
All True. MineralMan Dec 2022 #24
We are susceptible to Dorian Gray Dec 2022 #35
Perhaps, but it's good to check those things from time to time. MineralMan Dec 2022 #41
Certainly not me. I always got a bad vibe from him. liberal_mama Dec 2022 #32
"there was actually support for him running for president, on DU and elsewhere." Talitha Dec 2022 #23
Ooof. Yep Dorian Gray Dec 2022 #34
Is this new? Hasn't he been in jail serving time for quite a while? brush Dec 2022 #2
Here is what he is being sentenced for today: emulatorloo Dec 2022 #4
Yes, he already got 4 years for stealing from Stormy Daniels Ocelot II Dec 2022 #5
They got Avenati, tried him, jailed him and are taking another bite... brush Dec 2022 #8
Avenatti, who is also a rich white guy, is getting exactly what he deserves. Ocelot II Dec 2022 #9
No doubt. I'm sure you agree with the point about trump though, right? brush Dec 2022 #17
I think TFG will eventually get at least some of what's coming to him. Ocelot II Dec 2022 #18
I remember when overly credulous folks were suggesting that Avenatti would make a great president. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #3
I remember also, MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2022 #6
I remember them. BlackSkimmer Dec 2022 #13
I just watched some Netflix doc about some dumbass who tried to get Pepsi to give him a Harrier AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2022 #7
I still remember those here who were cheering him to become our candidate. BlackSkimmer Dec 2022 #10
Kinda makes one wonder where they're at now. MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2022 #12
Lol, they're here. BlackSkimmer Dec 2022 #14
They're probably quiet kcr Dec 2022 #20
And you'll never hear the end of "I told ya so!" harumph Dec 2022 #22
Told ya so Hekate Dec 2022 #26
Thank you. BlackSkimmer Dec 2022 #28
Told ya so. Ocelot II Dec 2022 #29
ESP? BlackSkimmer Dec 2022 #25
My sixth sense told me to read a reputable newspaper Hekate Dec 2022 #27
And mine told me to make the reasonable inference that a lawyer Ocelot II Dec 2022 #30
If you have a healthy skepticism Dorian Gray Dec 2022 #36
He got 14;years. BlackSkimmer Dec 2022 #31
That's not all. mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2022 #33
OMG Dorian Gray Dec 2022 #37
Yikes. BlackSkimmer Dec 2022 #38
Reminder: mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2022 #39
LOL, Chris Cillizza! FSogol Dec 2022 #40
LOL! MineralMan Dec 2022 #42

Ocelot II

(115,928 posts)
1. Reprehensible scumbag.
Mon Dec 5, 2022, 12:33 PM
Dec 2022

And to think there was actually support for him running for president, on DU and elsewhere. He was the big hero, was regularly interviewed on the cable shows - Melber and O'Donnell thought he was the bee's knees for awhile - due to his representation of Stormy Daniels vs. TFG. He later stole almost $400K from Daniels and got four years for that. Lock him up.

Ocelot II

(115,928 posts)
15. Me, too, and I recall getting a ration of shit
Mon Dec 5, 2022, 12:56 PM
Dec 2022

for pointing out early on that Avenatti wasn't all that - it was pretty obvious that he was just in it for the publicity when a NY judge told him that he could either intervene in the Cohen case on behalf of his client's privacy interests or he could do TV interviews, but not both - and he chose to keep doing TV interviews instead of protecting his client's interests.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
16. Yep, me too.
Mon Dec 5, 2022, 12:57 PM
Dec 2022

Lots of fanboys and girls here. All very quiet now.

they know who they are. And so do we.

MineralMan

(146,341 posts)
19. Oh, yeah. There were even some who wanted him to run for President.
Mon Dec 5, 2022, 01:28 PM
Dec 2022

Not a high point at DU. Not one bit.

Ocelot II

(115,928 posts)
21. Avenatti himself announced he was considering it, summer of 2018.
Mon Dec 5, 2022, 02:46 PM
Dec 2022
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2018/08/09/michael-avenatti-iowa-wing-ding-president-exploring-run-caucus-2020-stormy-daniels/935636002/

Many talking heads and media pundits were delighted because it was further evidence of Democrats In Disarray. Some DUers loved the idea of fighting the GOP's rude, disreputable, narcissistic asshole with a rude, disreputable, narcissistic asshole of our own. Fortunately Avenatti's manifold sins and wickednesses started to catch up with him at about that time, and we were at least spared that embarrassing spectacle.

MineralMan

(146,341 posts)
24. All True.
Mon Dec 5, 2022, 03:43 PM
Dec 2022

It's always fun to watch folks declare that someone who gets some publicity on the news should "run for President."

It doesn't seem to matter whether such people are in any way qualified or suited for that job. A flash of popularity and there are people who clamor for the Presidency for the newly popular person.

Oprah? Avenatti? It's all silliness and interferes with the genuinely serious task of choosing a candidate.

By the same token, if a candidate, especially a female one, is in the least disliked by someone, people are quick to condemn that person's candidacy. We saw that with Hillary Clinton. I remember one person I knew who voted for Jill Stein. When I asked why, she said, "Well, I just don't like Hillary." Later on, I asked her how she liked Donald Trump. She made a face and refused to say anything at all.

Bizarre!

Dorian Gray

(13,515 posts)
35. We are susceptible to
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 06:47 AM
Dec 2022

our own confirmation biases and cults of personality. Luckily this one was short lived.

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
32. Certainly not me. I always got a bad vibe from him.
Mon Dec 5, 2022, 05:54 PM
Dec 2022

Reminded me of a weasel. Didn't he try to extort Nike or some other big company?

Talitha

(6,634 posts)
23. "there was actually support for him running for president, on DU and elsewhere."
Mon Dec 5, 2022, 03:32 PM
Dec 2022

I remember his fanbase here. Admittedly, it was fun hearing him mouth-off about Dump, but that doesn't mean he'd make a good President. (Anymore than Walker's past would make him a good Senator.)

Dorian Gray

(13,515 posts)
34. Ooof. Yep
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 06:46 AM
Dec 2022

He had a twitter following that believed he could do no wrong. And i remember posts here where people supported him saying we needed a fighter like him. He was willing to fight fire with fire re: trump.

I suppose if we're looking for an unrepentant asshole who has no shame, he's our guy.

Thank God support for him has been put to bed.

Now if only they'd do the same thing for the number one grifting asshole in america, I'd feel good about society.

brush

(53,960 posts)
8. They got Avenati, tried him, jailed him and are taking another bite...
Mon Dec 5, 2022, 12:46 PM
Dec 2022

out to the apple, so to speak. But trump is still running free calling for the termination of the Constitution.

There's a massive imbalance in our justice system.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,129 posts)
7. I just watched some Netflix doc about some dumbass who tried to get Pepsi to give him a Harrier
Mon Dec 5, 2022, 12:43 PM
Dec 2022

Avenatti was his lawyer, and all the stupid shit we’ve seen with Stormy Daniel’s and Nike recently, he was doing with that stupid Pepsi case 25 years ago.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
10. I still remember those here who were cheering him to become our candidate.
Mon Dec 5, 2022, 12:51 PM
Dec 2022

Many of us pointed out what a con man he was, and we were attacked for it.

Oh, I remember his supporters here.

kcr

(15,320 posts)
20. They're probably quiet
Mon Dec 5, 2022, 02:09 PM
Dec 2022

because they don't want to deal with people who are strangely giddy over a Dem public figure who turned out to be a con artist. Maybe instead of gloating they should feel grateful for having ESP. Because I'm sure they will also be strangely quiet when one of their own heroes takes a fall, for the exact same reason.

harumph

(1,917 posts)
22. And you'll never hear the end of "I told ya so!"
Mon Dec 5, 2022, 03:01 PM
Dec 2022

They appear to need it to feel better about themselves.

Hekate

(90,939 posts)
26. Told ya so
Mon Dec 5, 2022, 04:01 PM
Dec 2022

Shortly after Avenatti rocketed to national prominence by taking on the Stormy Daniels case, the Los Angeles Times did an in-depth article on his career, since a lot of his career was in California. It was not pretty — he hurt his clients. Fast-forward: he hurt Stormy, who didn’t deserve that kind of treatment.

I shared the info here at the time because some people were going over the edge in their enthusiasm and really had no idea what kind of man he was.

So yeah. All of what Ocelot and Skimmer said above.

And for the record, I get no particular pleasure out of saying I told you so.

Ocelot II

(115,928 posts)
29. Told ya so.
Mon Dec 5, 2022, 04:36 PM
Dec 2022

I don't feel good about it; I'm just pissed off that (a) Avenatti is such an embarrassment to the legal profession, and (b) that so many people can be so easily taken in by the latest shiny object just because they were slinging shit at TFG.The enemy of my enemy is my friend only up to a point.

Ocelot II

(115,928 posts)
30. And mine told me to make the reasonable inference that a lawyer
Mon Dec 5, 2022, 04:56 PM
Dec 2022

who decides he'd rather make TV appearances rather than protect the interests of his client is a publicity whore, a shyster, a phony and a grifter. I was not wrong.

Dorian Gray

(13,515 posts)
36. If you have a healthy skepticism
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 06:50 AM
Dec 2022

of everybody and don't make idols out of popular figures, then this won't happen.

Seriously. There are many politicians I like, but I would never argue that they can't do wrong.

And Avenatti was an obvious big mouth and grifter from the start. Everything about him screamed slime-ball.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,703 posts)
33. That's not all.
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 06:42 AM
Dec 2022
/3 Wow. I predicted a max of 15 total. Judge Selna, by making the sentence consecutive with the NY sentences, made the final sentence 20 years.

Or 17 years with good behavior.

This is big: Judge Selna says Avenatti's 168-month sentence (14 years) is to run consecutive with his New York sentences. A major, major win for prosecutors.
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