Kirstie Alley has died.

[edbermac]

Link to tweet

Hated her politics but Cheers was a favorite show.

[CatWoman]

1. ....

wow, just wow!!!!

[Igel]

6. When I was much younger I remember my mother watching the news.

Somebody I'd never heard of had died. And she seemed oddly emotional. (This was my mother. She'd yell, shun, but be sentimental? Nah. Except for the news.)

I understand my parents and more as I age. I only really remember them in great detail when I was nearing my teens. Meaning I saw them reflected in myself when my kid turned 10 or 11, as far as parent-child relations are concerned. But for extra-familial relationships? The age of teens and celebrity icons was a bit greater then. I'm hitting that now. Rock singers, actors, politicians, various other celebrity types ... Dropping like flies. There was the Great Die-off from the older members of my former church, and the leading edge of my high school class.

Makes you feel really old. You see those 10, 15, 20 years ahead of you dying off and you can start a kind of count down.

[Codifer]

24. It is worse when they

are younger

[no_hypocrisy]

2. My guess is that she had a substandard doctor that Scientology recommended.

[Lucinda]

41. Her family sad it was cancer. Came on quickly and she went fast.

❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️

[Duppers]

55. She was being treated at Moffitt Cancer Center.

Moffitt Cancer Center in Tampa, one of the country's best.

Strange how religion goes out the windows when it come down to trying to actually survive.

[hlthe2b]

3. Wow... Yes, she had quite the rollercoaster life the past couple of decades...

and she seemed really off the charts politically. But sorry to see her lost to cancer.

[Igel]

25. Perhaps.

But my SIL wasn't a Scientologist and died years earlier in her struggle against cancer than Alley.

Didn't always approve of her, but I always appreciated her. She managed to get my mother to accept a caregiver when nobody else could--and that made the difference between having cops haul her off to "assisted living" against her will and not. Forced to move would have destroyed my mom. I owe her, but can never repay her. Oddly, I don't think she'd be okay with repayment.

At the same time, she was church treasurer for her Episcopal church. After years of fundraising to build a church building, a year after it opened the church split. The official church changed doctrine and her "heretical but faithful" group split off. The result was that the congregation was too small to pay utilities and grounds-keeping, and a few months later the building was put up for sale, to benefit "central office." Her new but same church started a new building fund. She forgave those she thought heretics--after all, a heretic is somebody who starts and promotes a faction at odds with historical precedent, and that was clearly "central office"--power and privilege wins most of the time. In her view, the heretics won. And she moved on. Only to die a year or so later, her will asking that large donation from her estate be donated to the building fund.

I attended a church that met at libitum of other groups. A grange met on some night? We met on Shabbat. Conveniently, almost always when they needed their hall a 7th-day group didn't observe the same day as sabbath. In the days before email and texts, it was totally possible to show up and find that it was a different group at the grange or meeting hall and wonder where you were to be. There were limitations on storage, on what was on the walls (invariably there'd be things opposed to our doctrines on the wall). We'd haul things every week, cover things every week. Kludges abounded.

Wasn't close to my SIl, who died at 72 but I still really miss her. As does my brother.

[Takket]

4. pretty tumultuous life she had. Really went off the rails in her later years.

Hope she rests in peace.

Wrath of Khan is one of my all time favorite movies

[Earth-shine]

5. She wanted more money than Shatner to do ST:III. So they replaced her with the lovely Robin Curtis.

>> Wrath of Khan is one of my all time favorite movies

Yup! I got my 4k blu ray disk.

[JHB]

11. If I recall correctly, that was sort of a "give us an offer we have to refuse" sort of thing

She was up and coming, and was worried about being locked into that one role, so the way she could depart with everyone saving face was "we just couldn't come to an agreement about money. No harm, no foul, no hard feelings, just couldn't come to an agreement."

[Takket]

18. me too lol

I actually had a crush on Curtis. Preferred her to Alley as Saavik. Loved her as Tallera in Next Generation's Gambit too. I have an autographed photo of her which I bought from a dealer at a convention (never met her in person)

[Earth-shine]

19. Got you beat! I met her at an ST con at the Stony Brook, NY campus in the late 80s.

This was one of her first cons. She was overwhelmed and a bit afraid of all the attention.

I got to talking with her. Somehow, she started to trust me. I led her around for about half an hour helping her to find her way to the next event. She thanked me. It was a real thank you.

In the movies, she looks like she's 6ft tall and could beat up a Klingon. In reality, about 5'2" if I recall. Quite petite.

[Takket]

22. ah! that's so cool!

I went to a con, geez i can't even remember where exactly, somewhere outside NYC in the late 90s. I didn't get into Trek until the early 90s.

[KS Toronado]

66. She was taller

When I meet her mid 70s in Wichita I was impressed at how tall she was until I noticed she had on real tall
high heels. But she was 5ft 7/8 inches barefooted, and pretty average sized.

[Igel]

8. Didn't recognize her.

Surprising, that. Had had a mild crush on her when I was much younger.

Also on the Star Trek character.

Surprise! They're the same woman!

Oddly, preferred her in Vulcan-face.

[debm55]

60. Earlier in her career, Kristie was in rehab for cocaine use. She then got into Scientology.

Regardless, may she rest in peace and may her memories be a blessing to those she left behind.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

7. So sorry

[Iggo]

9. Seventy-one?!?! Jeezus, when did that happen?

[W_HAMILTON]

40. I was thinking the same thing...

Time has just been flying by lately (read: past two decades for me, heh).

[a kennedy]

10. Always sad to hear of deaths by cancer.......

I didn’t like her on Cheers, and her politics really stunk.

[Xavier Breath]

26. That they did.

As to her acting, I watched Cheers until the very end, but I just never could warm to her character. In retrospect I probably never wanted to.

Her only sin on that show was following Shelley, and IMHO she was never quite able to fill those shoes.

[a kennedy]

31. Exactly, Shelley was a goddess on that show.

[Solly Mack]

12. Cancer sucks.

[Elessar Zappa]

13. That it does.

It took my grandparents and an uncle. My dad had prostate cancer but it was caught early and he’s thought to be cured.

[Solly Mack]

15. I'm a survivor. It got my father.

[Elessar Zappa]

16. Sorry to hear about your dad but glad you're a survivor!

You’re an important voice on DU.

[Solly Mack]

17. Thank you.

Nah. I'm just an old timer is all. Every now and then I get dusted.

[Solomon]

44. My mom is dying from it now. We signed the hospice papers today.

[Solly Mack]

45. I'm so sorry.

It's an ugly disease.

[Duppers]

56. So sorry. 🕯

[littlemissmartypants]

46. So sorry, Solly Mack. But I can relate on both. ❤️

[Solly Mack]

47. It's a big club. Too big. Developing cancer, that is.

I'm glad you're a survivor.

[littlemissmartypants]

49. You're right about the too big club. Thank you. I'm glad you are, too. ❤️

[Just A Box Of Rain]

20. Only some people are really people.

[TheProle]

21. Well aren't you edgy.

[Ocelot II]

23. That's a pretty crappy thing to say.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

27. +1

[hamsterjill]

38. Another +1

Really crappy.

[SCantiGOP]

30. I'll just put you on Ignore

Bet you’ll get quite a few of those, Illuminist.

[The Grand Illuminist]

34. It's war. No one has to like it.

Just got to look back.

[debm55]

53. Don't understand your shitty comment.

[WarGamer]

58. Nice to see you deleted your original comments...

Sounded like you were calling her a sub-human...

Or untermensch as the Germans used to say? Ja?

[The Grand Illuminist]

64. I may have went a little too far, given losing my parents to cancer.

But politics has always been deeply personal for me and my family. I get diarrhea of the mouth at times. Apologies to all offended.

[hamsterjill]

36. Well, your enemy is dead.

I did not agree with her politics but I can still feel badly that she was sick and died. Should we be laughing that her children mourn?

I don’t think you’re going to get many to agree with you on your post.

[LenaBaby61]

43. She is an enemy, and not our fellow american.

Yes, she said some pretty rotten and hideous things on twitter about Dems et al. I hope she gets a better send off than RBG got when she died. Many reich-wingers were practically celebrating and giddy over RBG's death on Twitter (and some still are believe it or not), and I can only imagine the fights on there tonight with Musk the clown bringing back white nationalists, and people who daily pray for Pres. Biden to die (Boebert is one of them, and she gets away with it of course), and those who are in the same camp with holocaust deniers.

I hate cancer though .....

[Ohio Joe]

28. RIP

[48656c6c6f20]

29. Well

[SergeStorms]

39. +1000

nt

[UTUSN]

32. (For ME) Her authentic fun charisma crashed on her limited insight.

[Lunabell]

33. I have nothing to say.

[Kennah]

35. She really YOLOed life

[Lucinda]

37. ❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️

[Grumpy Old Guy]

42. I met her many years ago.

She was a guest on a show I was stage managing in the mid eighties. She was very nice, and we had an interesting conversation waiting for the show to go on the air. R.I.P.

[Liberal In Texas]

48. RIP.

I f'ing hate cancer.

It took my wonderful doggie of 12 years from me last week.

[niyad]

62. Lady of the Beasts, please take Your little one gently home in Your loving arms, and

send peace and comfort to the grieving loved ones.

I am so very sorry for the loss of your precious baby.

[ismnotwasm]

50. Just found out from TikTok

RIP. She was funny before she became a right wing bigot.

[VWolf]

51. All things must pass

Cheers was part of our must-see-TV Thursday evenings when my friends and I were in college. That was our weekly study break, before we pulled all-nighters to get the problem sets done by Friday morning. We all bonded around the show, especially because we were living in Back Bay at the time.

Can't believe she was 71. Where does the time go?

[Celerity]

52. RIP. I detested her politics, but cancer is horrid. Trump deserves it though, in spades.

[Norbert]

54. Was never a great fan but sorry she has passed

When she replaced Shelly Long on Cheers I quit watching it about 3 episodes in.

[Omaha Steve]

57. Waiting to hear from John Travolta

He just went through this with Olivia Newton John.

[iluvtennis]

59. May Kirstie Alley Rest In Peace and May her Memory be a Blessing. n/t

[Catherine Vincent]

61. May she rest in peace.

[Tarc]

63. oh well?

I cannot muster sympathy anymore for people with hate in their souls.

[Sky Jewels]

67. Yeah.

She won’t be missed … at least not by me. I’m far more sad about the death of Bob McGrath, who was a magical, wonderful person who made this planet a far better place.

[AlexSFCA]

65. Karma is unforgiving.