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MOTHERFUCKER's Org Verdict - GUILTY ON ALL 17 COUNTS (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Dec 2022 OP
K&R Blue Owl Dec 2022 #1
They never should have let Hunter Biden do their taxes Effete Snob Dec 2022 #2
GUILTY Best_man23 Dec 2022 #3
Show me a liar and I'll show Thee a thief. Kid Berwyn Dec 2022 #4
Omg! Ugh Joinfortmill Dec 2022 #14
Ugh ugh. iluvtennis Dec 2022 #28
I think Weisselberg took the hit for Trump. I doubt there was anything that happened in that Lonestarblue Dec 2022 #5
I have a pretty good suspicion that the IRS is already on this. gab13by13 Dec 2022 #6
Remember that IRS Commissioner Rettig is Trump appointed... Grasswire2 Dec 2022 #36
Glenn Kirschner speak of Alvin Bragg's cowardice... RobertDevereaux Dec 2022 #7
Right. But Bragg just hired a major attorney involved in the civil case. nt wiggs Dec 2022 #10
It looks like they hired a GREAT new guy..... MyOwnPeace Dec 2022 #20
I'm thinking this verdict was a take down of merely one column of tRump's criminal empire. msfiddlestix Dec 2022 #32
I guess the 'idealist' in so many of us...... MyOwnPeace Dec 2022 #33
Is that man behind bars tonight? msfiddlestix Dec 2022 #34
I'm sure you'll know without the need to hear from me........ MyOwnPeace Dec 2022 #35
Indeed! Party big tonight! Two Big Victories, actually right?!! msfiddlestix Dec 2022 #37
Agree. nt wiggs Dec 2022 #9
I'll take it as a good sign of things to come. Torchlight Dec 2022 #8
You DO know that Wile E. Coyote....... MyOwnPeace Dec 2022 #21
Now I understand why he headed to Florida malaise Dec 2022 #11
Florida also has the homestead law NewJeffCT Dec 2022 #16
Thanks for this malaise Dec 2022 #19
Oh, I hope he does lose it! ShazzieB Dec 2022 #26
We can hope NewJeffCT Dec 2022 #31
Yes, and I hope that backfires on his ass. Dan Dec 2022 #27
Now reported by CBS Warpy Dec 2022 #12
Ooohhh, that's right! ShazzieB Dec 2022 #29
Yup. Tick Tock. More coming Joinfortmill Dec 2022 #13
"I think nobody knows more about taxes than I do, maybe in the history of the world" muriel_volestrangler Dec 2022 #15
Nobody knows more about anything than he does. ShazzieB Dec 2022 #30
this paragraph....... Takket Dec 2022 #17
His organization was found guilty, so what will the punishment be? panader0 Dec 2022 #18
A million dollar fine. That's it. Anyway, that's what it sounded like on CNN today. nt LAS14 Dec 2022 #23
The real crime is the low fine. It works out just to be the cost of doing business. nt LAS14 Dec 2022 #22
Has sentencing been scheduled? Evolve Dammit Dec 2022 #24
Thanks STC, and GK. 👍 I guess we'll see. 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞 electric_blue68 Dec 2022 #25

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
5. I think Weisselberg took the hit for Trump. I doubt there was anything that happened in that
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 06:29 PM
Dec 2022

organization that Trump didn’t authorize. He is known as a micromanager. Now investigators need to look into the tax fraud by the Trump spawn. I remember a NYT report that Ivanka received a salary but then also received several hundred thousand in consulting fees. I don’t remember whether the consulting fees were reported as income, but salaried personnel do not get paid consulting fees.

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
36. Remember that IRS Commissioner Rettig is Trump appointed...
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 11:34 PM
Dec 2022

....and, earlier as a tax attorney, he advised Trump to never release his taxes. Voila, he gets appointed Commissioner!

And then Rettig refused the lawful request from Congress for release of Trump's date. The law says the Commissioner SHALL release the data to Congress on request.

MyOwnPeace

(16,920 posts)
20. It looks like they hired a GREAT new guy.....
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 07:12 PM
Dec 2022

one with plenty of great experience and plenty of background on other tRump cases. That's great - let's hope he's a 'KILLER!'

BUT, what about the 2 attorneys who HAD been handling the case for C. Vance before Vance retired? When he took office Bragg told those guys that he was NOT going to pursue the tRump case. They made a 'respectful' public stink about NOT going after tRump, but did NOT go nutso against Bragg or the Manhattan Office.

Whey were THEY not brought back?

Were they asked and declined?

Might be a big NOTHING - but I'd sure like some answers about it all.

In the meantime - LOVE THE VERDICT - the "HOUSE OF tRUMP CARDS" is starting to crumble!!!!!!

msfiddlestix

(7,271 posts)
32. I'm thinking this verdict was a take down of merely one column of tRump's criminal empire.
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 10:03 PM
Dec 2022

I remember Vance wasn't exactly 'On the Case' in terms moving the investigation along in preparation for trial.

Vance struck me as foot dragging at a painfully slow pace., in fact there were times when it was reported nothing was going to proceed.

But then with political events being what they were, seemed to have been like a fire getting lit under his ass. except again, signs of foot dragging right through the period leading up to his retirement, he hired those well known, experienced prosecutors, then Braggs comes i and douses cold water on all that work. Like it was all worked out behind closed doors.. leaving the public, prosecutors and AG twisting the wind.

I'm sure I have all of this wrong, just grist for a film script that's been recycled hundred million times.

I recognize that tune! Just a few of the same words but re-arranged to fit the given chorus line.

I find this closing argument fascinating, obviously transmitting it to the public, praying that a sort of baton was being passed to whoeer outhere to whoever might have legal standing and the fortitude to carry on and finishing it.







MyOwnPeace

(16,920 posts)
33. I guess the 'idealist' in so many of us......
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 11:07 PM
Dec 2022

just still wanting to believe that there really is a 'good, happy' ending, just like the film script.....

Come on, aren't we due for ONE 'good, happy' ending after the past 6-7-8 years of 'Nightmare on Pennsylvania Avenue?'

msfiddlestix

(7,271 posts)
34. Is that man behind bars tonight?
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 11:18 PM
Dec 2022

Let me know when that happens, then we'll have something to celebrate?

Surely drink a toast for this one, it's a victory none the less. a small one, but sure I'll drink that for what it's worth.

cheers!



MyOwnPeace

(16,920 posts)
35. I'm sure you'll know without the need to hear from me........
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 11:27 PM
Dec 2022

Last edited Wed Dec 7, 2022, 06:02 AM - Edit history (1)

it will be plenty loud outside in MANY parts of the country!

Torchlight

(3,293 posts)
8. I'll take it as a good sign of things to come.
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 06:34 PM
Dec 2022

I don't wear a t-shirt that reads 'Wile E. Coyote, Super Genius', so I'm not the guy who pretends to know what will or won't happen. But I'll sure take this as a good sign.

MyOwnPeace

(16,920 posts)
21. You DO know that Wile E. Coyote.......
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 07:14 PM
Dec 2022

was a MAJOR stock holder in the ACME COMPANY, right? He was only creating his own share of profit!

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
16. Florida also has the homestead law
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 06:58 PM
Dec 2022

so, no matter how egregious the crimes, Trump would be allowed to keep his "primary" residence.

NY does not have a similar law. I don't think NJ does, either.

ShazzieB

(16,291 posts)
26. Oh, I hope he does lose it!
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 07:27 PM
Dec 2022

And whoever the eventual owner is changes the name.

Can you imagine how much he would HATE that? Plastering his name on things is incredibly important to him. Having his name removed from one of his precious buildings would make his head explode!

And after that, somebody please do the one in Chicago. SO sick of seeing his name emblazoned on that thing. (Although it did make a handy focal point for protests when he was in office. )

Hey, if the Sears Tower could become the Willis Tower, anything is possible!

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
31. We can hope
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 08:34 PM
Dec 2022

I remember the Homestead law because there was a big scandal in my neck of the woods in the late 80s (Colonial Realty & Benjamin Sisti) and Benjamin Sisti had his wife purchase a $30 million home in Florida for that very reason.

And, one of the people he scammed back in the day was Donald Trump. The home Sisti built in the Hartford, CT area was later purchased by Mike Tyson and then 50-Cent.

https://www.ctmq.org/the-sisti-mansion/

The wife ended up getting convicted of fraud for helping him hide his assets
https://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-xpm-1997-12-12-9712120380-story.html

Not sure what happened to the home in Florida, though

Dan

(3,539 posts)
27. Yes, and I hope that backfires on his ass.
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 07:38 PM
Dec 2022

Cause according to Trump, Mar-a-Largo is not his residency, he resides there as an employee….(I was laughing when I first discovered that); he is being too smart by half….

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
15. "I think nobody knows more about taxes than I do, maybe in the history of the world"
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 06:56 PM
Dec 2022
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-says-his-tax-rate-is-none-of-your-business

Just a reminder for when he or MAGAs say he knew nothing about what his own company was up to, tax-wise.

Takket

(21,529 posts)
17. this paragraph.......
Tue Dec 6, 2022, 06:58 PM
Dec 2022

"The trial also revealed potentially embarrassing details about Trump, including that he reported nearly $1 billion in operating losses over a two-year period in 2009 and 2010, as well as losses each year for the decade between 2009 and 2018 -- some of the same years Trump was touting his business acumen on reality television and as he was campaigning for president."

HE'S A FUCKING FAILURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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