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The leaders entourage has not ruled out that he will lose the war, be stripped of power, and have to urgently evacuate somewhere.Russias Vladimir Putin and his cronies already have a plan in place to flee the country once things go sideways, a former aide to the Russian president has claimed.
Abbas Gallyamov, a former speechwriter for Putin, made the astounding claim on Telegram early Wednesday, citing an unnamed source that he said had insider information on the whole affair.
The evacuation plan, according to Gallyamov, got underway back in the spring, when it was unofficially dubbed Noahs Ark.
As the name implies, its about a search for new land to go to in case it becomes completely uncomfortable in the homeland. The leaders entourage has not ruled out that he will lose the war, be stripped of power, and have to urgently evacuate somewhere, Gallyamov wrote.
Putins inner circle first considered a plan to evacuate to China, Gallyamov said, but later thought better of it, fearing the chances of cooperation from the Chinese were slim, especially since they despise losers. Now, he said, the focus has shifted to either Argentina or Venezuela, with Putin ally Igor Sechin currently overseeing an evacuation plan for the latter country.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/vladimir-putin-is-preparing-to-flee-to-venezuela-when-russia-implodes-ex-aide-abbas-gallyamov-says
Beetwasher.
(2,971 posts)And what will poor Eddy Snowden do....
PortTack
(32,762 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,014 posts)And safe spots where he can hide.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,367 posts)Not sure where he could go that would leave him untouchable.
Irish_Dem
(47,014 posts)And has extensive experience with evacuation plans.
I assume he has fully equipped hidey holes all over the world.
It would be easy for him to fake his death, get some plastic surgery and live quietly somewhere.
StormKing
(243 posts)... could probably disappear as well as his money. Now? Ain't happening. He might get away for a few months, but his resources will get caught and taken until he's penniless and his entourage, unpaid, will flee.
Irish_Dem
(47,014 posts)And he has his cash well hidden.
He may get caught yes.
But I don't think he'll go easy.
StormKing
(243 posts).... he's done f*cked with Jews. And they are still hunting Hitler's people down. Putin will hide, it'll be good, but once they start closing in his money will disappear, his options will dwindle and they'll get their hands around his neck physically. Even if he kills himself first.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,367 posts)Any proof to that? Sure he has swiped a buttload of money, but The Richest?!? Bit of a stretch, I'd say
Really? Is he like some sort of a James Bond type that has a complete understanding of every possible scenario that might be thrown at him? Able to fly a helicopter one minute and an airliner the next? Ridiculous. He ain't superman.
Another Really?!? How many other people like him have hidey holes all over the world?
So now we're into the realm of a Hollywood Movie script. Got ya.
He can hide for a while, but as I said below, if someone is determined to get to him, he won't have any luck at all in staying alive for long.
Justice matters.
(6,928 posts)Lots of isolated spaces to go with millions of $$$ (converted before the illegal invasion and stored in Swiss banks I'm sure).
Also, lots of crowded spaces, like Dubai, UAEs, SA (but a little too hot to my tastes).
Just don't use real names in communications.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,367 posts)I can order up flights to all 3 of those places in 2 minutes on Google.
I just don't buy the idea that he can truly hide if someone, be it a government or pissed off Russian he betrayed, really wants to unalive him.
Someone could poison his Mai Tai in Bora Bora pretty easily, and a Submarine can put a strike team undetected on any island you can possibly think of.
grandpamike1
(193 posts)Osama Bin Laden, thought the same thing, as did Saddam Hussein, but you will be found and destroyed.
mitch96
(13,895 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)2naSalit
(86,579 posts)Big shocker, he's the kind who will run. Hope he's intercepted if he does try to.
Sogo
(4,986 posts)but, sheesh, I'd personally feel much better if it was in a different hemisphere (or galaxy)....
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Sogo
(4,986 posts)"You are about to enter another dimension. A dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land of imagination. Next stopThe Twilight Zone."
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Twilight zone is great, too.
The Roux Comes First
(1,299 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Tfg would drive pootin nuts & pootin would not pay any attention to tfg because he would no longer be of value.
The 50th circle of hades for both of them!
StClone
(11,683 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Sogo
(4,986 posts)Packing my bags, going away
To a place where the air is clean
On Saturn
There's no sense to sit and watch the people die
We don't fight our wars the way you do
We put back all the things we use
On Saturn
There's no sense to keep on doing such crimes
There's no principles in what you say
No direction in the things you do
For your world is soon to come to a close
Through the ages all great men have taught
Truth and happiness just can't be bought or sold
Tell me, why are you people so cold?
I'm
Going back to Saturn where the rings all glow
Rainbow, moonbeams and orange snow
On Saturn
People live to be two hundred and five
Going back to saturn where the people smile
Don't need cars 'cause we've learn to fly
On Saturn
Just to live to us is our natural high
We have come here many times before
To find your strategy to peace is war
Killing helpless men, women and children
That don't even know what they are dying for
We can't trust you when you take a stand
With a gun and bible in your hand
And the cold expression on your face
Saying give us what we want or we'll destroy
I'm
Going back to Saturn where the rings all glow
Rainbow, moonbeams and orange snow
On Saturn
People live to be two hundred and five
Going back to saturn where the people smile
Don't need cars 'cause we've learn to fly
On Saturn
Just to live to us is our natural high
It's my dad birthday
I'ma stop on J
Don't do that (let her go first)
Let her go first, please let her go first (let me go first, go 'head)
Alright, let Alwatta go by herself
Okay, then we gon' take turns
Alright
Strawberry, shortcake, cream on top
Tell me the name of your sweetheart
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P
Paul, oh, Paul
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Ty for sharing!
My fav Christmas song is by Stevie! One radio stations never play:
Someday at Christmas men won't be boys
Playing with bombs like kids play with toys
One warm December our hearts will see
A world where men are free
Someday at Christmas there'll be no wars
When we have learned what Christmas is for
When we have found what life's really worth
There'll be peace on earth
Someday all our dreams will come to be
Someday in a world where men are free
Maybe not in time for you and me
But someday at Christmastime
Someday at Christmas we'll see a land
With no hungry children, no empty hand
One happy morning people will share
Our world where people care
Whoa, someday at Christmas there'll be no tears
When all men are equal and no man has fears
One shinning moment one prayer away
From our world today
Someday all our dreams will come to be
Someday in a world where men are free
Maybe not in time for you and me
But someday at Christmastime
Someday at Christmas man will not fail
Hate will be gone and love will prevail
Someday a new world that we can start
With hope in every heart, yeah
whoa, yeah
(Someday in a world where men are free)
Maybe not in time for you and me
But someday at Christmastime
Someday at Christmastime
Thx for sharing!
calimary
(81,238 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Sky Jewels
(7,088 posts)Maybe Ye can come with.
SergeStorms
(19,200 posts)after I do the pre-flight check. Sure, you're cleared to take off now.
Sky Jewels
(7,088 posts)"Uh, my bad. I'd meant to tighten that one screw."
SergeStorms
(19,200 posts)I believe in redundancy. 😉
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)if when the time comes and he arrives at his "sanctuary" he finds himself under arrest for war crimes.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)UTUSN
(70,686 posts)StormKing
(243 posts)...the next regime will want him alive.
He'll have a job at the Gremlin soon enough.
Oh did I misspell that?
dweller
(23,629 posts) have to urgently evacuate somewhere
if this were a game of Clue , it would be On the staircase , in your trousers
Ill settle for Hell
✌🏻
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,340 posts)Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)ornotna
(10,800 posts)moondust
(19,979 posts)Trueblue1968
(17,217 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,733 posts)They should take drumpf too.
grumpyduck
(6,232 posts)magicarpet
(14,145 posts).... he will need more than a bottle of aspirin to keep his body going. More stability and less travel might be better results for his medical team.
One would hope that in advancing years,... Putie is not inclined to making rash moves in the Ukraine War zone so he can cement his warmonger legacy as the victorious tactician of the battlefield.
If he gets desperate or backed against the wall he might be inclined to look more favorably upon nuclear weapons in a more dangerously cavalier way - to induce a cease fire or surrender by Ukraine to the "Russian Motherland".
Desperate and deranged people do desperate and deranged things.
Justice matters.
(6,928 posts)By phone or by text comms.
No suspicious moves get detected by surveillance satellites.
To start using nukes, even tactical, means nobody knows where that will lead, when that will end and in which condition the human race as a whole will be left when that will end.
lindysalsagal
(20,680 posts)Love the sound of this. Wear down the Ukrainians? Nope.
barbtries
(28,789 posts)on some faraway deserted island and trump can kiss putin's ass all the way to hell.
tinrobot
(10,895 posts)I suspect he'll be stuck in North Korea.
peppertree
(21,627 posts)Something we could definitely use (especially in Miami).
jerseyjim
(129 posts)Where would that be?
aeromanKC
(3,322 posts)Just follow the soiled diapers.
LiberalFighter
(50,912 posts)They would need to consider he might want to overthrow their government.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)Vogon_Glory
(9,117 posts)Taking up residence in Caracas.
Hed definitely feel out of place.
Traildogbob
(8,731 posts)world wide wally
(21,742 posts)Bedminster.... Bumphuk?
KS Toronado
(17,220 posts)onetexan
(13,040 posts)can't happen soon enough.
Yavin4
(35,438 posts)Argentina should be asking themselves this question.
peppertree
(21,627 posts)Have you ever visited the Highway 78 corridor between Carlsbad and Escondido?
Thousands of them; their descendants will (after a few beers) proudly tell you about their Oma's and Opa's SS past.
And yes, they're mostly Republicans.
peppertree
(21,627 posts)A lot of them ended up in the Carlsbad/Escondido, CA, area. And yes, their descendants are mostly Republicans.
japple
(9,823 posts)madinmaryland
(64,931 posts)Pounding snow.
IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)Maybe they'll catch him like they did with Eichmann https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Eichmann#Capture
Chainfire
(17,536 posts)Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)Putin will die thinking he still controls Russia. Doesn't sound like a bad way to go.
WarGamer
(12,440 posts)Xolodno
(6,390 posts)But disgruntled ex-aides, etc. will spin it to get media time and capitalize on it.
And people buy it. Remember the story about Putin falling down and crapping himself. It was largely accepted and lauded by a number despite the dubious source and even the CIA stating awhile back that Putin was entirely too healthy.
General Miley acknowledged that the casualty ratio is pretty much 1 to 1, you never know it reading here.
Hamlette
(15,412 posts)Kennah
(14,261 posts)Warpy
(111,255 posts)It shut when those columns of tanks heading for Kyiv got turned into columns of smoking scrap metal and when most air space was closed to Russian planes.
Now the Russians know that Ukraine is willing and able to strike deep into Russia and they're not safe any more because of Putin's war.
Give that one a while to sink in and there is no way he's going anywhere, not even welded into a chipping container or stuffed into a locker on an oil tanker. It's just not going to happen.
Dictators always think they can skedaddle just before the shit hits the fan. This is wrong because they are incapable of recognizing the moment the shit gets too near the blades and are egocentric enough to think only they can stop the process once it starts.
It's why so many meet violent, grisly ends.
indigoth
(137 posts)How would anyone, outside of putins inner-most circle, have access to this kind of information.
Warpy
(111,255 posts)and weaving his way through traffic running away from nuclear Armageddon, AR-15 stripped to the handlebars, to where his private jet was all fueled up and waiting for him, the pilot not daring to take off before he got there and the bike and the jet still operational despite multiple electromagnetic pulses.
They can't help sharing their master plans with people around them who don't have access to things like private jets.
msfiddlestix
(7,281 posts)He and Patre Friedman (Milton Friedman's grandson) planned it out for years.. I thought it was a thing that ame to fruition.
I haven't checked in a long time.
They had it all figured out, down to the minting of their money. to be floating in the San Francisco Bay, dumping their shit in the sea using up our energy resources, but yeah an independent and free sovereign city, state, country
https://www.seasteading.org/
Warpy
(111,255 posts)Turns out a bunch of rich Randhorrhoids weren't very good neighbors.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)where will he go So. America, No. Korea.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,853 posts)"Trump is toast! He's about to be indicted!"
People here have also predicted endlessly that he will flee the country.
Sorry, I don't believe either man will do such a thing.
And I'm tired of waiting for Trump to face real consequences of anything he's done.
edbermac
(15,939 posts)And joins his buddy Saddam.
republianmushroom
(13,590 posts)msfiddlestix
(7,281 posts)What exactly are we to understand by the meaning of an Imploding Russia?
Like there's going to be some sort of new Bolsheivick style revolution or perhaps people storming the Kremlin with their pitchforks?
I don't think the people are armed like people here are. Though I guess I could be wrong, I was under the impression that guns were illegal among civilians at any rate.
Used metaphorically, I don't see an imploding Russia. I know that from time to time, there were protests in Moscow, but they have been severely crushed by Putin's security forces and imprisoned. At least that was my understanding from the occasional reading in the past few years.
I remain curious..
Torchlight
(3,331 posts)Too many broken people, broken families and broken hearts lie at the feet of this guy. No way he'll last more than a year or two before someone finds the weak spot, exploits the leverage, and gets to him.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)That is about the only place that would take him at this point.
maxsolomon
(33,327 posts)Putin's not going anywhere. He has nowhere to go unless it's Belarus.
TomSlick
(11,098 posts)Stash assets in foreign accounts and have a plan for a quick escape.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,176 posts)This war is becoming increasingly unpopular in Russia and Putin is worried
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)He'll probably try to get to Switzerland where his girlfriend is hanging out with his children and a lot of his money.
Kennah
(14,261 posts)genxlib
(5,524 posts)When he pulls the ripcord, the only people who have a ticket to ride are the ones he needs: body guards, money launderers and private chefs that wont poison him.
Everyone else will be left to take the fall