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The Supreme Courts Most Conservative Justices Got Humiliated on Wednesday
Great lawyeringand, surprisingly, Amy Coney Barrettdebunked a legal theory designed to subvert democracy.
BY MARK JOSEPH STERN
DEC 07, 20226:34 PM
(Slate) After three hours of oral arguments at the Supreme Court on Wednesday, only one thing is certain: If the justices want to blow up federal elections, they will have nothing to hide behindnot history, not logic, and certainly not the Constitution. The three lawyers defending democracy methodically dismantled the independent state legislature theory from every conceivable angle, debunking each myth, misreading, and misrepresentation deployed to prop it up. They bested the conservative justices who tried to corner them, identifying faulty reasoning and bogus history with devastating precision.
Those of us whove been ringing the alarm over this dangerous theoryand whove been disgusted by the campaign to drag it from the far-right fringe all the way to the Supreme Courtcan take solace that these capable lawyers exposed it as an utter fraud. This idea was at the center of Donald Trumps efforts to overturn the 2020 election, so it was a relief to hear five justices sound deeply skeptical that it has any basis in the Constitution. It is far too early to celebrate the demise of the independent state legislature theory, since four justices have already endorsed it. But the skepticism it faced at arguments suggests that democracy has a fighting chance of survival.
If Wednesdays case, Moore v. Harper, is new to you, prepare to be startled by how ridiculous it is. The petitioners are Republican leaders of the North Carolina legislature. They are angry that the North Carolina Supreme Court struck down the congressional map that they drew after the 2020 censuswhich was, objectively, an extreme partisan gerrymander. The court found that the map violated various provisions of the North Carolina constitution, including a guarantee that all elections shall be free. There was nothing unusual about this decision: It is a bedrock principle of federalism that state courts have final authority over the meaning of state constitutions. Other courts, including the Supreme Courts of Florida and Pennsylvania, issued similar decisions invalidating congressional districts, and SCOTUS did not get involved.
But North Carolina Republicans decided to use this case to achieve a broader GOP ambition: the revival of a long-discredited doctrine known as the independent state legislature theory, or ISLT. This theory rests on the Constitutions elections clause, which says the times, places, and manner of federal elections shall be prescribed in each state by the legislature thereof. It posits that this clause frees the state legislature from restraints imposed by the state constitution when regulating federal elections. Specifically, it would prevent state courts from enforcing those restraints when the legislature passes a law that violates them. The usual checks and balances of state lawmaking do not apply, the ISLT claims, because the U.S. Constitution gives power over the manner of these elections to the state legislature exclusively. ..............(more)
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/12/supreme-court-elections-legislature-trump-north-carolina.html
momta
(4,079 posts)Thanks for posting it.
brush
(53,833 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,696 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts)msfiddlestix
(7,285 posts)good read, essentially explains the case quite clearly, background, legal concepts, theories, history and arguments as well as summarization of the hearing itself.
housecat
(3,121 posts)ampm
(301 posts)Yes, but the power is in their hands. How many times, have we got to watch them tear into us one case after another?
czarjak
(11,287 posts)Obstructionists rueing oppression? Ha!
republianmushroom
(13,661 posts)Martin68
(22,853 posts)limitations.
mahina
(17,693 posts)They lost the word conservative along time ago. I realize that OP doesnt have a choice. But between us
Martin Eden
(12,875 posts)If a fifth "conservative" justice joins the dark side, then Trump (or should I say Mitch McConnell) will have succeeded in destroying American democracy despite failing in the J6 coup attempt.
I can't help but go back to all the efforts to smear and undermine Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election, and all the people who didn't support the Orange Abomination but voted 3rd party or stayed home.
The consequences will be harming our republic and the American people for many years to come.