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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhite women did their white women shit in GA.

What is wrong with my demographic?
How can we complain about women's rights and then vote for the oppressor?
I don't get it. I see it. I believe it. I just don't understand it or how to reach them. It's like their political party is religion and can't ever be wrong.
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Walleye
(43,618 posts)Im telling you they think the Democratic Party is the great Satan and God will know if they vote for us. They will go downstairs instead of to heaven when they die. Im positive thats it.
brush
(61,033 posts)tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)Was visiting me prior to one of the former elections. I was working at the local Democratic office part time. One day I asked her if she wanted to go to office with me just to see what I do etc. She gave me a look like I had asked her to go to the most evil place on this earth. Didn't understand that look at that time but, as time passed I did understand where it came from.
SharonAnn
(14,131 posts)Rhiannon12866
(248,791 posts)Lysol2020
(25 posts)The White women in GA are still hard core Republicans resembling Laura Ingraham. Nothing that can be done about this, but we do appreciate White women who choose love and human rights.
Walleye
(43,618 posts)We were taught tolerance, racial equality, love and generally just looking out for the little guy. I dont know what happened to religion in this country. I became an atheist in about age 12 when our public schools integrated and the bigots were revealed in our church. They decided to cancel the Saturday night sock hops rather than let the black kids attend. I was pretty disappointed to find out they didnt mean what they preached
certainot
(9,090 posts)support 14 ex limbaugh stations without complaint!
rw radio is the only unique significant advantage the cons have and if the pollsters would start doing their job it would show how much of that dumbass vote is primarily or secondarily connected to the fact that 40 or so radio stations in Ga dominate political priorities there, like in most states - INFLATION! GAS PRICES! CRIME! IMMIGRANTS WITH EBOLA! MASK MANDATES! GLOBAL WARMING IS A FRAUD! WALKER IS A HEISMANN WINNER! and so on, all for free all day long on 40 or so radio stations.
and if the women don't listen to it their dumbass republican husbands do. and so do their preachers so they know what to say the one day a week they get the dittoheads who listen to the alt reality 5 days a week
Tumbulu
(6,611 posts)And for the life of me, I cannot understand why.
Thanks for not giving up!
certainot
(9,090 posts)keep trying to convince others to do that. it might be lucrative, aside from saving democracy and the planet.......
betsuni
(28,620 posts)"dems stupidly ignore" "we let" ...
certainot
(9,090 posts)words should be applied to the few dozen dominant blowhards on 1500 radio stations.
the democratic party and the 'left' and all environmentalists tired of hearing global warming denial have to stop ignoring RW radio or go down as the most incompetent political force in history. the dem party or it's allies must digitize RW radio and force the ad industry to democratize rw radio.
https://www.media.mit.edu/publications/radiotalk-a-large-scale-corpus-of-talk-radio-transcripts/
it's fuckign stupid, the biggest political mistake in history
'we let' 1500 radio stations put carnival barkers on every corner and stump in the country, screaming your sister's a whore, your brother's a thief, and your ideas are treasonous all day and then celebrate close elections that should have been no brainers.
a no brainer election is one where a global warming denier makes it through the primaries
betsuni
(28,620 posts)Why blame Democrats?
certainot
(9,090 posts)dwellers dominating dem and media leadership
for eg, no one will likely ever feedback to ari melber that maybe the next time he has sam nunberg on maybe he should bring up nunberg telling NY magazine that he listened to "1000s of hours of talk radio" for trump in 2014 and question if those reports might have gone to russian troll farms.
stephanie rhule puts on someone re salem talk radio, stupidly declares limbaugh was king of the alternate reality and for decades he was the ONLY one doing that, and counters it with reg guest charlie sykes who was doing the same thing as limbaugh in the Wisconsin area since the early 90s.
dems celebrate recent elections but how could they have been close after what TFG and co did? incumbent party historical precedent factors are idiotic - how often do losers do what he did?
it should not have been close. to lose the house is incompetence and maybe the new leadership can adjust in time
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)should ever be ABLE to fool himself that it's only on the right and that only on the right is it condoned and even encouraged. Tenor of the times.
Walleye
(43,618 posts)Samrob
(4,298 posts)want the rest of us to have it either.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)I cant even fathom what is running through the empty skull that supports their evil.
brush
(61,033 posts)onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)Children. My oldest daughter married into one of those Christian families. We dont recognize her anymore. Its very sad and painful.
brush
(61,033 posts)Biden admin and Dems keep getting things done domestically and internationally.
yardwork
(68,838 posts)Ocelot II
(128,732 posts)Speaking as a white woman who has always voted Democratic, like almost all the other white women I know, I can't figure it out either.
brush
(61,033 posts)Ocelot II
(128,732 posts)A lot of them probably found Walker to be an embarrassment, a sad stereotype of what white racists think Black men are like - and why TFG and the GOP pushed him to run.
whathehell
(30,326 posts)than there is between Black Women and Black Men -
- Check the stats.
Solomon
(12,628 posts)Nothing.
yardwork
(68,838 posts)SomedayKindaLove
(1,171 posts)At this point Im pretty sure wed be completely fascist without them.
Better Days Ahoy
(706 posts)Where the Ignorant White Woman (IWW) syndrome is less of an issue. We just ignore them as irrelevant howlers at the moon and elect high majority Dems at state, local and national levels. We wouldn't considering living in any states with that problem.
Much respect to all of you who do and soldier on.
Albuquerque, New Mexico, and possibly southern Colorado are future options, too. So is Portugal.
Ocelot II
(128,732 posts)and this year we elected an all-Dem legislature, kept our Dem governor, lt. gov. and AG - but they're out there when you get out of the cities.
Better Days Ahoy
(706 posts)Also beautiful and quite livable. Too cold for us! I also lived in Michigan and am proud of what's happening there, too.
Minnesota and Michigan are great states!
Keep fighting the good fight.
whathehell
(30,326 posts)Given that white women of ALL classes vote Democrat in larger numbers than white men, I'd guess you're not quite as "fortunate" there.
Scrivener7
(58,042 posts)Better Days Ahoy
(706 posts)That's where my comments went. Seemed just a tad off-topic to broaden the chat to strike out at white men. They're otherwise an easy target. 😉
Not sure of your point because I'm not clear on what you're saying. Interested in any clarification you'd like to offer.
whathehell
(30,326 posts)..Race-based broad brushing is never a good look.
Better Days Ahoy
(706 posts)Go after that person.
I'll wait.
whathehell
(30,326 posts)Enough here seem to agree with me.
Better Days Ahoy
(706 posts)And I am of the same mind as the majority here.
Go after the original author who started the post if you have the stones. Guess not.
whathehell
(30,326 posts)but if you'd read the thread, you'd know I challenged several here, including the op.
peacebuzzard
(5,789 posts)Love New Mexico, love Portugal. spent much time in both.
I do live around the IWW but I have a big yard and a hard-to-reach cabin.
bdamomma
(69,130 posts)us again thank you. And men.
rubbersole
(10,956 posts). .black women" - Frangela
czarjak
(13,413 posts)Ocelot II
(128,732 posts)czarjak
(13,413 posts)yardwork
(68,838 posts)Better Days Ahoy
(706 posts)Me, too, and me, neither.
Black women rock the elections!
raging moderate
(4,600 posts)Pale skin worshipped as a sign of God's favor. In spite of the increasing danger of skin cancer for very pale skin here on our Earth. They exhort each other to preserve the "white" heritage.
They overlook the Bible passage that says the Lord will appear at the Judgement with a bronze face and hair like white wool.
whathehell
(30,326 posts)I'm a white woman who has NEVER voted for a Republican, nor do I "exhort" other white women to "preserve white heritage",
so please stop using that absurdly broad brush to paint white females in this country as bogots and narcissists.
raging moderate
(4,600 posts)Last edited Sat Dec 10, 2022, 08:58 AM - Edit history (3)
I am a "white" woman (born with "red" hair) with a mostly "white" family history (European except for the spouses of two male ancestors, 250 and 150 years ago respectively, who married Algonquin and Mohawk women). My family WAS mostly Republican for a long time, and ardent Abolitionists, and Anti-racist (my Methodist great-grandfather and great-grandmother, running a small poor rural church, did all their own manual labor, invited African-Americans to be their houseguests sometimes, and participated in a large petition drive to close those infamous Indian schools). Our family taught us that all human beings are equal. I never heard that n-word until I went to play at a new schoolfriend's house at age 8, and my mother's jaw dropped in horror when I asked her what it meant, and she told me about the horrors of slavery and the continued killings and beatings of Black people, etc., and WHY I must never, never say that word again. The change in both parties was gradual, and my family gradually switched allegiance as the Republicans grew increasingly racist. I will never forget the bewildered look on my mother's face, not long before she died, after that horrendous switch between the two parties, as she said, "I guess I am voting only for Democrats this time."
I DID NOT say that all "white" females are bigots and narcissists. I said that most of the "white" women who cast these votes for racist Republicans are bigots and narcissists, and deluded about reality from an early age. Do you notice how I put the word "white" in quotation marks? Just telling children they are "white" loosens their grasp on reality. And SOME children in these families ARE taught that our pale skin is a sign of superiority. And that IS narcissism. I do not refer only to southern US states. I grew up in Illinois, and later worked in Illinois schools. When I was working in small-town public schools and some Black children first appeared in our school, I overheard some of my little fellow palefaces expressing some bad feelings about that. I gathered them around a pale brown table and placed a sheet of white paper on the table. "What color is the table," I asked ("brown"
. "What color is the paper?" ("white"
. "Now let's all put our hands on the paper," I said (done). "What color are our hands?" (consternation). "If the the paper is white and the table is brown, and our hands are about the same color as the table but not the paper, then, don't you see, we are not white." There was silence, and then one little boy quavered bravely, "My Mommy is white!" Of course I did not press the issue further; he was only being loyal to his family. I just left it for them all to remember and think about.
If you are a non-narcissist, then I am glad to hear it. We need all the support for equality that we can get. And we need all the non-deluded Caucasians to speak up against the delusions of grandeur that have plagued our European heritage for centuries, possibly stemming from the geographical isolation of so many of them back in the old country across the sea. Europe was pretty isolated and primitive for a long time, especially England/Scotland/Ireland. They often painted themselve Blue to keep invaders away. I studied Social Anthropology a lot in college, including the nature of most of the most isolated bands of people. Of course, it is common for these isolated groups to imagine that they are the only real people, at least at first. Whenever these "white" fools start up about our so-called Heritage, I just want to whisper, "SHHH! You are busting our cover!"
whathehell
(30,326 posts)is qualified to give a psychological diagnosis to a group of women you don't know. I mean, please, at very least you over simplfied a sociologocal issue that is certainly more complex than "narcissism" and some idea of fetishizing white skin, which, even IF relevant, Is no more so than it would be for men -- The fact is, women of ALL races are far more likely to.vote Democratic than their racial counterparts, so why not focus on THEM?
yardwork
(68,838 posts)White women (and men) overwhelmingly chose to vote for the Republican. This is generally true across the nation. If it weren't for non-white voters, Republicans would win almost all elections. Why do you think they're working so hard to suppress votes?
whathehell
(30,326 posts)but NOT in the same proprtions...White Men ARE more likely to vote Republican, and so are Black men..Check the percentages.
yardwork
(68,838 posts)Walker was so obviously impaired and incompetent, it is mind boggling that a large percent of white voters still chose him. Since Republican policies are so oppressive toward women, it's particularly disheartening that a vast majority of white female voters chose the abuser.
whathehell
(30,326 posts)How do you explain that discrepancy?
P.S. The idea that Republicans are "oppressive" isn't accepted by all women. Those who do believe it are generally Pro- Choice women and all women are not Pro- choice.
rubbersole
(10,956 posts)I'm a white male that met a white woman many years ago and I'm almost positive she's part witch 🧙♀️...but she still puts up with me! (24 years and counting. But don't piss her off. Your health/sanity could be at risk.)
whathehell
(30,326 posts)..getting tired of the "Let's trash white women" party.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)Don't let facts get in the way of denial,
yardwork
(68,838 posts)I'm a white woman who agrees with that post. Too many white racists who don't even know what the Bible actually says.
whathehell
(30,326 posts)and my objection has nothing to do with the Bible, either way...Men of ALL races are far more.likely to vote Republican, but I think white women make easier targets here.
yardwork
(68,838 posts)I think the OP's point is that Republican policies oppress women, so it's mind-boggling that a large majority of white women still vote Republican. Data shows that the reason is often based on religious teachings.
whathehell
(30,326 posts)ESPECIALY those of the working class, and they
they, no less than the women, keep voting against their own interests...It's been a widely discussed issue for years.
yardwork
(68,838 posts)whathehell
(30,326 posts)electric_blue68
(25,442 posts)anti-BIPOC immigrants etc issues. Those unfortunately override their economic self Interests.
Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)They have read it, and know exactly what it says. It's why they believe what they do.
I have family who belong to the fundigelical sects. One of them is even married to a minister of a fundie church. That's why I know how many of them have read the book.
Maybe you need to read it--ALL of it--to understand how they're not so far from what it says as you think.
Reading it made me an atheist, but made them judgmental loons. Why I don't have contact with them anymore.
raging moderate
(4,600 posts)Their thinking shows that their eyes skip over the words like skipping stones across a pond. Once, I was a member of a church that got taken over by such a right-wing fundamentalist bunch. One Sunday, I volunteered to do the New Testament reading. It was the 25th chapter of the gospel of Matthew. I read it carefully, with good pauses at the proper places, and accurate enunciation of the words. This chapter describes how Jesus told a listening crowd that the last judgement will have a scene in which he will tell one bunch of people, "Come, my wonderful friends, to the everlasting joy I have prepared for you! Because you saved me when I was sick, and cold, and starving, and in prison!" and they will say (essentially), "What are you talking about? We never heard of you!" And he will tell them, "Oh, but you saved my suffering brothers and sisters! Do you remember helping people who were sick, or cold, or starving, or in prison? Well, in my mind, those were all my brothers and sisters! So when you saved them, as far as I am concerned, you saved me! So come on into heaven!" The right-wing parson quickly jumped to the pulpit and essentially said, "Heh! Heh! Of course that doesn't mean that unsaved (meaning "un-fundandamentalist"
people will go to heaven!" Two weeks later, they had somebody read that same passage; she read it at top speed so you could hardly hear what she was saying, and they quickly changed the subject. I left that church soon after that. Of course, the Bible was written 2 - 5 thousand years ago, in a turbulent time and place. But there is a lot of writing in it that condemns greed, snobbery, cruelty, and narcissism.
happy feet
(1,253 posts)hypothesizing why the overwhelming %age of white women voted for Walker/Repubs. Not the 30% who voted for Warnock/Democrat. Especially given that Walker is anti-abortion, et al on women's issues.
JI7
(93,099 posts)Maru Kitteh
(31,164 posts)ProfessorGAC
(75,614 posts)Quite a large difference actually. 61 to 55 seems significant to me.
I find it surprising, like you.
Sancho
(9,172 posts)jezebel321
(285 posts)judesedit
(4,585 posts)Are you part of a club or social circle consisting mainly of dems? I'd love to join you.
malaise
(291,956 posts)Sancho
(9,172 posts)...for lots of reasons, but the votes only reflect the subset who voted.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)it IS all of us.
With every election or event that suggests opportunities to attack "white women," all white women are attacked in free exercises of misogynistic racist bigotry that always "forget" or don't bother to exclude even white women on this forum.
bearsfootball516
(6,672 posts)brush
(61,033 posts)Skittles
(169,100 posts)INDEED
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)There is a bizarre unsupported belief that, through some unspoken magic, women will vote against hypocritical abusive men who want to outlaw abortion.
The fact of the matter is that in vast swaths of the country, that is EXACTLY the sort of candidate that white women consistently favor by a voting majority. This was demonstrated twice with Trump and is replicated in other races throughout the country.
Quite obviously, Marjorie Taylor Green has won more elections in Georgia than Stacey Abrams.
dsc
(53,301 posts)Abrams won 5 elections to the state house in GA
mtngirl47
(1,202 posts)From 2007 to 2017. Presumably she won 5 elections. MTG has only won 2 at this point.
Baitball Blogger
(51,598 posts)BTW, I'm going to gloat a little. I gave birth to a Warnock vote!
You're welcome.
JI7
(93,099 posts)even if Republicans might gain a bit more the overall votes are still more for Democrats than Republican.
dembotoz
(16,922 posts)electric_blue68
(25,442 posts)Response to kpete (Original post)
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Farmer-Rick
(12,386 posts)Was a White Woman.
That's the kind of support they give to white women. They have no problem abusing white women as badly as other races they hate. It's white MEN supremacy. A woman's white skin gets her nothing but abuse in Nazi clan life.
plimsoll
(1,690 posts)So this isnt a surprise. Except that 1/4 of white men and a 1/3 white women could look at walker and say nope.
The disparity might have been bigger had the GOP candidate been white.
JI7
(93,099 posts)for example by age and education ?
I would especially be interested in seeing how whites of different ages voted .
But this really just shows how much we depend on black voters.
We focus a lot of young v old but it's still about race more.
The reason young voters these days vote Democratic more is because younger age groups are more diverse and non white compared to older age groups.
Older black people vote Democratic more than young whites .
GoCubsGo
(34,614 posts)How many of these white Southerners, female and male, get their marching orders from the guy in the pulpit at their mega church every Sunday? Quite a few of them, I'm betting.
RobinA
(10,464 posts)only white people get their marching orders from the pulpit?
GoCubsGo
(34,614 posts)I believe the ones in mostly-white Southern churches get different marching orders than the ones with predominately minority congregations. Sen. Warnock's church is a good example. He's not preaching anti-choice, fascist messages the way many of these right-wing, white preachers are. And, I'd say he's probably pretty typical of black churches down here.
peggysue2
(12,361 posts)Another white woman here who's curious about the age and education markers. I would guess that younger white women would vote Democratic because it's their future on the line, be it reproductive rights, climate change and the ease they have with our growing diversity. Older women? Though they should be concerned about their daughters and grand daughters, too often they become set in their ways and/or vote along with male counterparts. From past analyses, we know that education is an equally important marker.
electric_blue68
(25,442 posts)Takket
(23,414 posts)whathehell
(30,326 posts)than their female counterparts, so I DO wonder why white women seem so often to be the " target of choice".
unc70
(6,491 posts)whathehell
(30,326 posts)It was the opposite in the 2020 election.
quakerboy
(14,689 posts)Lovie777
(21,480 posts)but it seems the opposite when abortion restriction/ban, etc are on the ballot, in other words, they will vote for the oppressor individual. Shakes head
Ocelot II
(128,732 posts)"Women who carry water for the patriarchy just so they can have a slightly longer leash and stand a few rungs up in oppression from other women, especially marginalized women, make me a special kind of angry. Being master's favorite dog is still having a master and being a dog." Despite a few mixed metaphors, this is it.
whathehell
(30,326 posts)Collaboraters and Sellouts abound...Why would women be any different?
lonely bird
(2,690 posts)It is also accurate.
whathehell
(30,326 posts)Women of all races are as diverse in their opinions as men and no more likely to be One Issue voters than men...Stop viewing us as a monolith.
Cuthbert Allgood
(5,339 posts)Having a counterexample, doesn't refute the data.
whathehell
(30,326 posts)Maybe you should read them.
Cuthbert Allgood
(5,339 posts)I only see people painting with a brush as broad as the statistics in the OP.
whathehell
(30,326 posts)the women who voted Republican.
Cuthbert Allgood
(5,339 posts)Nearly 70% voted for the oppressor.
treestar
(82,383 posts)not understanding that there are white women, and even some women of color, who are so religious that they think God intended women to be helpmeets to men and not have their own life. It works for them, so they think, or would if it were still the norm.
The tweet even is confused that "we complain about women's rights" when "we" does not include those women.
The Phyllis Schlaflys of the world. There's a great series dramatizing her and her allies.
whathehell
(30,326 posts)and you are correct..Women are no more monolithic than men are.
malaise
(291,956 posts)That also blew up in their faces
malaise
(291,956 posts)That also blew up in their faces
halfulglas
(1,654 posts)My grandfather was union, worked in the steel mills. My dad was union when he worked a union job. The Republicans were against the unions and always backed the company bosses - and still do. The super rich would take us back to feudal times if they could and the Republicans would help them..
The Butler
(41 posts)hlthe2b
(112,517 posts)Listen to the sorority gals at any big Southern University merge any independent thinking with that of their (soon-to-be) husbands and it persists over their lives--unless or until they encounter the real world via a nasty divorce or other hardship. Plenty of non-privileged young white women WILL be the independent thinkers we'd expect to see today, but I witnessed this firsthand over the decades in college and later during another post-doctoral degree program. Traditions for that segment of the population die hard.
Then you have non-college-educated white women married early to blue-collar white men who are staunchly conservative. They tend to merge as well, especially as they become more dependent with kids.
NewHendoLib
(61,520 posts)GoCubsGo
(34,614 posts)A lot of them are okay with fascism. Some things never change down here.
maxrandb
(17,089 posts)Fixed it for you.
GoCubsGo
(34,614 posts)Thank you.
haele
(14,992 posts)Which means putting up with all sorts of male bullshit to be kept in a "protected" position of "comfortable honor"so long as they are properly married and he does all the heavy lifting providing the house and money for her. All she has to do is take care of the house, any kids, and keep being "there" for him.
See, whatever happens to a woman in a Traditional Womanhood role is never her fault. It's always someone else's. Unless she didn't try hard enough or bucked the system.
A simple, potentially petty life, but one many women are raised to accept as their future, whether they're of a nurturing nature or not. Any threat to that particular position in a smaller, more traditional society is too often something to be feared or avoided.
So they will vote against the greater interests of women or people in general so they can keep their way of life.
Haele
eppur_se_muova
(40,757 posts)Treefrog
(4,170 posts)And watch it disappear. SMH.
whathehell
(30,326 posts)I voted to remove it, but misogyny -- as long as it's directed at White Women -- is apparently okay here
"Misogyny is the last acceptable bigotry of the Left"
..Katha Pollitt, The Nation.
Nailed it.
whathehell
(30,326 posts)Raine
(31,065 posts)whathehell
(30,326 posts)I appreciate your input.
obamanut2012
(29,113 posts)whathehell
(30,326 posts)I appreciate the support.
Cuthbert Allgood
(5,339 posts)Or are you disputing the statistics?
whathehell
(30,326 posts)So why all the focus on women?..Do you really think working class white men have a BETTER reason to vote for the Millionaire's Party, or are we just an "easier target"?
Cuthbert Allgood
(5,339 posts)The narrative has been that Roe would change the white female vote. We need to revisit that strategy based on these statistics (which, admittedly, is one example in a swing state).
electric_blue68
(25,442 posts)leaning more to the values of the Democratic Party.
Response to Treefrog (Reply #34)
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Ex Lurker
(3,966 posts)you may be part of the problem too.

yardwork
(68,838 posts)Raine
(31,065 posts)countingbluecars
(4,771 posts)They buy into the republican replacement theory crap. I watched it happen here in Virginia when Youngkin was elected governor. They are afraid their children won't always be top of the heap.
Roc2020
(1,732 posts)that could not care less about being 'top of the heap'. But most Whites do care. Especially in the South. Reason is there are Whites, especially poor ones, who if they can't see their skin color as an asset, has nothing else in life to be proud of. Very sad.
Trueblue Texan
(4,130 posts)...but plenty of white women in Texas (speaking) helped Warnock win.
lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)"Far away, across the field
The tolling of the iron bell
Calls the faithful to their knees
To hear the softly spoken magic spell"
JohnnyRingo
(20,380 posts)Throughout modern electoral history Southern men have been stumped on how democrats get into office. All their friends voted R, but it didn't go that way.
Many a Wednesday evening conversation down at Skinny Dick's Halfway Inn involved Billie Bob ordering a round of Buds saying: "We all voted for the republican, isn't that right Peggy?" His wife would take a sip of her Gin Fizz and say: "Yes dear" "Of course I did".
Celerity
(53,438 posts)Deffo a pub to avoid for me!
Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #40)
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machoneman
(4,128 posts)I mean, from where (and how) does this report get data that specific for actual voters?
Anyone know?
Wounded Bear
(63,718 posts)Yep, the conservative conflation of religion and politics is hurting us all.
LakeArenal
(29,949 posts)Shipwack
(2,962 posts)Cuthbert Allgood
(5,339 posts)From this specific example, not so much. White women overwhelmingly voted for the oppressor.
LakeArenal
(29,949 posts)White privilege is real for men and women.
Women are not immune to hypocrisy and the I got mine syndrome.
We arent all nurturing earth lovers and justice seekers.
Cuthbert Allgood
(5,339 posts)Aviation Pro
(15,170 posts)I think the graphic doesn't match the true outcomes.
milestogo
(22,400 posts)So these are old results.
TheBlackAdder
(29,944 posts).
Women in Georgia seem to either be in an outlier state or something changed and they swung hardcore paternalistic.
This was one of the things that stopped the E.R.A., thanks to a mobilization by Phyllis Schlafly.
Then that brought about the Moral Majority and other ilk that manifested over the decades.
I took a Center for American Women and Politics class, which was perhaps the most enlightening college course.
This was in 2016, using current data.
No matter how much people question this, religion plays a key role with most, and this also includes supporting paternalism, especially with orthodox and evangelical crowds. This is the main reason why the ERA doesn't pass, because their vote along with their men are enough to prevent its passage.
Visit and check out the site. It's the only university specializing in women and politics. https://cawp.rutgers.edu/
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judesedit
(4,585 posts)I am white, but in the 30% blue for Warnock. Lots of Georgians are still stuck in the past and have never been out of the state, I'm assuming. Thank God Almighty for all of the men and women of color that saved us once again. It is so hard for me to believe in 2022 that a person could actually believe they are superior to anyone else because they happened to be born with light skin. Mind boggling.
Yay! Senator Warnock won! Woohoo!
IronLionZion
(50,691 posts)People get married younger in the south. Married women may not care as much about choice or equal opportunity.
Warnock did well in urban and many suburban areas, and black rural areas, and with college educated voters.
CottonBear
(21,615 posts)Id like to point out that out of 7,008,203 active, registered voters (Nov. 2022 number from the Georgia SoS) in Georgia, only 3,535,579 people, or 50.4% of active, registered voters, voted in the Senate runoff.
I canvassed during the recent Georgia elections. I met all sorts of people who dont vote.
I would be interested in a demographic breakdown of non-voters.
tavernier
(14,173 posts)uponit7771
(93,455 posts)... talk about killing old people and children on talk shows to normalize killing young men for nothing.
Hmmm, how to reach out to a demographic that listens to FAUX News?
I'm thinking sideline FAUX News in to the tabloid news they are and stop treating them like they matter.
Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)Especially in the nether--er, Southern--regions.
Probatim
(3,203 posts)white women will tolerate the misogyny to celebrate the racism.
Ray Bruns
(5,896 posts)It was Georgia and the guy had an R beside his name. What else is there to know?
Bettie
(19,211 posts)white women voting against their own interest.
I WTF white people daily...and I am a white people.
70sEraVet
(5,202 posts)so hard to suppress the American American vote!
My rural county in Tennessee has a population of 1.25% African American. I suspect it will be many years before I see my county support a Democratic candidate.
niyad
(129,204 posts)for anything with an "r" after its name. We are nothing but chattel to them.
DFW
(59,635 posts)White, black, male, female, all voted for Warnock with one possible exception. One guy there I know is a transplant from Alabama, and Walker may have sufficiently freaked him out enough to either hold his nose and vote for a Democrat or stay home. I don't dare ask, so he won't be forced to lie, just in case he voted for Warnock, but is too ashamed to admit it.
Cuthbert Allgood
(5,339 posts)A LOT of people voted for him. Not sure what your antidote adds to the statistical breakdonw.
DFW
(59,635 posts)It means that there is a whole other Georgia out there that we (or the Georgia DP) have to continue to break through to, or else this is a fight that will get repeated over and over again, and not necessarily with results we'll like (just ask Stacey Abrams).
Cuthbert Allgood
(5,339 posts)DFW
(59,635 posts)yardwork
(68,838 posts)Even though the Republican candidate was a cognitively impaired person with no indication of being competent to be a senator. A vast majority of white voters in Georgia chose an obviously incompetent candidate.
Thems the facts.
Genki Hikari
(1,766 posts)You know a self-selected crowd, not all the millions of people eligible to vote in a state like Georgia.
Get out into small town and rural America, especially in the southern states, and you'll see an entirely different demographic with very different views.
The kind that will make you despair of humanity.
Mr. Ected
(9,713 posts)In the USA you can personally apply your religious dogma without voting to force all others to do the same. Our democracy affords greater rights to its citizens than some of its churches. A good American can distinguish between the two. If my religion dictates that I cannot seek abortion services, fine, but don't condemn someone else not of your faith to the same fate.
ancianita
(42,729 posts)hel(l)pmate. Patriarchy is a hierarchal religion with a lot of subsidiary religions in which these women's souls have been groomed and captured to serve, and to believe their faith keeps them free.
They are groomed to believe they're not only situated high on a ladder of spiritual superiority, but gender, race and economic superiority, too. Stick with patriarchy, and they'll be rewarded in heaven.
JT45242
(3,794 posts)When he signed the act he was euphoric, but late that very night I found him in a melancholy mood as he lay in bed reading the bulldog edition of the Washington Post with headlines celebrating the day. I asked him what was troubling him. "I think we just delivered the South to the Republican party for a long time to come," he said.[1] (exceprt from Bill Moyers book)
Because the Democrats gave rights to the blacks.... many whites have taught their children that the Dems are the enemy since 1964. It is pure unadulterated racism condensed and compressed for almost 60 years for generation upon generation.
A semi-literate, lying, black wife beater with an (R) next to his name is better than anyone with a (D) next to their name because that is what they have been told by their parents, grandparents, and great grandparents ever since the Voting RIghts and Civil Rights Acts were passed.
Beaverhausen
(24,675 posts)This white woman would not have voted for Walker and I resent this headline.
sinkingfeeling
(56,989 posts)Cuthbert Allgood
(5,339 posts)We all know where white men stand. Nobody is letting them off the hook.
whathehell
(30,326 posts)Much of your answer lies there.
Cuthbert Allgood
(5,339 posts)But isn't that also the broad brush you were complaining about?
uponit7771
(93,455 posts)whathehell
(30,326 posts)because I said there is SOME of that, the point being, there is no ONE simple answer..Women are no more a monolithic group than men, even though men, especially many here, seem to think so.
uponit7771
(93,455 posts)Beaverhausen
(24,675 posts)stop letting men off the hook.
Cuthbert Allgood
(5,339 posts)soldierant
(9,243 posts)jalan48
(14,914 posts)of these folks don't even believe in science and rather believe that the invisible man in the sky will save them and then they will spend eternity in bliss.
Cuthbert Allgood
(5,339 posts)It's interesting that when some people indicated they wished Warnock hadn't had all the god stuff in his speech Tuesday they were met with a lot of hate here. We need to do everything we can to keep religion out of our government. Even the "good ones." ("ones" referring to religions and not that Warnock needs to be kept out--be religious on your own time, not when you function as a part of the government).
jalan48
(14,914 posts)He's a pastor but he also believes in the inclusion of differing groups within our society, not exclusion. Love not hate.
Cuthbert Allgood
(5,339 posts)when we are fine with the ones we agree with?
jalan48
(14,914 posts)if they are going to do so I'll go with the ones who don't preach hate.
Celerity
(53,438 posts)Also, some people make excuses for certain people holding problematic, self-described religious-based beliefs if those persons holding the repugnant views are members of a group that the apologists deem beyond most criticism provided they vote the right way.
old as dirt
(1,972 posts)when we are fine with the ones we agree with?
Thank you so much for your trust in me and to God be the glory!
After a long and hard fought campaign, it is now my honor to utter the four most powerful words in a democracy, the people have spoken. I have often said that a vote is a kind of prayer for the world we desire for ourselves and for our children.
It is faith put in action. It is the sober recognition that we pray not only with our lips but with our legs.
And Georgia, you have you been doing just that - praying with your lips and with your legs, with your hands and your feet, with your head and your heart! And here we are standing together!
And Georgia once again as you did in 2021 when you sent an African American man and a Jewish man to the Senate in one fell swoop - you are sending a clear message to the country about the kind of world we want for our children.
I stand before you tonight a proud son of Savannah, Georgia, a coastal city known for its cobblestone streets and verdant town squares. Towering oak trees, centuries old and covered in gray Spanish moss bend and beckon the lover of history and horticulture to this city by the sea. And like those oak trees in Savannah, my roots go deep down and they stretch wide in the soil of Waycross, Georgia, and Burke County and Screven County. In a sense, I am Georgia. A living example and embodiment of its history and its hope, of its pain and promise, the brutality and possibility.
I am grateful that my mother, Pastor Verlene Warnock, is here tonight. A teenager growing up in Waycross, GA, she used to pick somebody elses cotton and tobacco. Tonight, she helped pick her youngest son to be a United States senator. My late father, Rev. Jonathan Warnock, a preacher and a junkman, has long entered into the light but he too is cheering us on.
How grateful I am for my very large and beautiful family. I am glad that they are here tonight. Im number 11 of 12 and so my parents clearly read the scripture which says, Be fruitful and multiply.
We were short on money, but we were long on love, faith, and humor, and they poured into me and my eleven siblings the values and hard work ethic that still guide me today.
Thats whats led me to a life of service, its whats led me in the pulpit and its ultimately whats led me to the U.S. Senate
I also want to thank my two children, Chloe and Caleb. You two are the brightest stars in my world and as proud as I am to be a Senator, I am most proud to be your dad. You help inspire me to do my part to build a world befitting of the curiosity, the creativity and the possibility that I see in your eyes and in the eyes of all of our children.
And on this night, where after being on the ballot 5 times in the last two years for the same job I might add I have been entrusted with a six-year term to serve in the Senate, I cannot express how thankful I am to you, the people of Georgia.
I am deeply honored to be on this journey with you.
Its an overwhelming statement for your neighbors to say we want you to represent us and our families in high office. And its something that inspires me every day.
Now there will be those both in our state, and across the country, who will point to our victory tonight and try to use it to argue there is no voter suppression in Georgia.
Let me be clear. The fact that millions of Georgians endured hours in lines and were willing to spend hours in line lines that wrapped around buildings and went on for blocks, lines in the cold, lines in the rain, is most certainly not a sign voter suppression does not exist.
Instead, it is proof that you, the people, will not allow your voices to be silenced. And I am proud to stand with you.
I believe that democracy is the political enactment of a spiritual idea. The notion that each of us has within us a spark of the divine We all have value. And if we have value, we ought to have a voice.
Thats why when officials in our state tried to block Saturday voting, we sued them. And we won. And the people showed up in record numbers within the narrow confines of the time given to them by a state legislature that saw our electoral strength the last time and went after it with surgical precision.
The fact that voters worked so hard to overcome the hardship put in front of them does not eliminate the fact that hardship was put there in the first place.
Our democracy is stronger when more people are able to exercise their right to vote. This is something we all should be able to agree on. And it is something that I will continue to work on until we pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Act.
Democrats, Republicans, independents, should all be able to agree that whether youre black, brown, white or any other color, no matter what neighborhood you live in, in the United States of America you should have the same ability to exercise your right to vote.
Tonight, I want to pay tribute to all those, over so many years, who have put their voices, and their lives on the line, to defend that right.
Martyrs of the movement like Scherner, Chaney & Goodman; Viola Luizzo, James Reeb. And those who stood up and spoke up like Fannie Lou Hamer. John Lewis, who walked across a bridge knowing that there were police waiting to brutalize him on the other side. Yet, by some stroke of destiny mingled with human determination he walked across that bridge in order to build a bridge to a more just future.
And now, it is up to us to keep building that bridge. To keep doing the important moral work. And Georgia, I want you to know that even as I work for you, I intend to walk with you.
Because here is what Ive learned from being a pastor. You cannot lead the people unless you love the people. And you cannot love the people unless you know the people. And the only way to know the people is to spend time among the people. You cannot serve me if you cannot see me. Georgia, I see you. Parents trying to get your kids through school, I see you. Students trying to pay your way and work your way through, I see you. Farmers who are an answer to our most basic prayer give us this day our daily bread and yet struggle to survive, to save the farm, I see you. Workers fighting for a livable wage and decent benefits, I see you. Small business owners, I see you.
I will always be a voice for Georgia. All of Georgia. Whether you voted for me, or whether you didnt, I will always be fighting for you and I hope to serve our state in a way that makes you proud.
And I remain hopeful that Washington can focus more on what we all share in common rather than what sometimes divides us.
Too many folks in Washington enter the conversation everyday thinking they must be armed as gladiators, focused on that days fight, on getting what they can for their side, whoever they consider that to be. I just see things differently. Im proud of my bi-partisan work. And I hope to do more.
Because I believe first and foremost we are an American people and that we all have a covenant with one another. That we must live up to that uniquely American ideal of E pluribus Unum. Out of manyone.
I believe in what Dr. King called the Beloved Community. Over the forces that seek to divide us, we choose a stateand a nation that embraces all of us. We choose America.
I believe in the American dream. My own life is an iteration of its promise and possibility.
And therefore I believe that we can all do better, when were all doing better.
Thats what drives me to work to expand and lower the cost of healthcare, of creating jobs and standing up for the dignity of work, of addressing inequality and criminal justice reform and of taking on the existential threat of climate change that threatens our future.
And as I return to serve as your Senator for another six years, it's that combination of faith, love and hard work that will keep me focused on making change on behalf of our State and our country.
Before I closeand you can never believe a former pastor when they say theyll closeI want to thank some of the people that made this victory possible.
To my campaign staff, led by my incredible campaign manager and son of Schley County, Georgia, Quentin Fulks, thank you. I want to thank Lawrence Bell who one day dropped on me a crazy idea you should run for the senate and the rest is history.
I want to thank my Senate staff in Washington, led by Mark Libell, and my state team, led by Meredith Lilly, for their work on behalf of our state.
I want to thank the volunteers and all of you who believed that we could win.
We won together
Asking that neighbor at the very end of your block to get to the polls.
Turning to one another in our church pews
Talking about what is at stake here in Georgia
Talking about what a brighter future looks like for all of our families.
Volunteers in every corner of the state knocked doors to get people to the polls
And poll workers worked hard to ensure each and every Georgia voter could make their voice heard in their own democracy.
And tonight, all that hard work paid off.
Thank you Georgia.
I know for many these are hard times. Dark times.
There is no question people are feeling the pain and the pinch your children, your aging parents, your neighbors. Weve been through a lot.
But the scripture says the light shines in the darkness and the darkness overcometh it not and I know with all my heart that our best days are ahead of us.
So tomorrow we can all take a hard-earned rest. Just for a moment though because the work continues
And Im not confused about who I work for.
Some of you have heard me tell the story many times of how my dad would wake me up every morning, 6am, no matter what time of year, no matter what day of the week, hed say Son, get dressed, put your shoes on.
Well Georgia, Im up, Im dressed, Im ready and Ive got my shoes on. And I am so honored that you have placed your confidence in me one more time.
From the bottom of my heart, THANK YOU! God bless you.
Keep the faith! Keep looking up.
https://www.11alive.com/article/news/politics/raphael-warnock-victory-speech-full-text/85-1da60dc5-1ba5-4127-9ba6-9ab41d10339e
machoneman
(4,128 posts)old as dirt
(1,972 posts)...just to see what the fuss was all about (with words like "disgusted", no less).
Now that I've read it, I still don't know what the fuss was all about. I find that more surprising than any poll of voters.
Cuthbert Allgood
(5,339 posts)Saying that we don't have a problem with religion in government when it is something we agree with makes it hard to say that those things we don't agree with shouldn't be in government.
Easier to just keep them all out.
old as dirt
(1,972 posts)Stop putting words in my mouth.
It's annoying when tfg points to journalists and says that, and it is doubly annoying when folks do the same thing to me.
I'm not a mind reader.
Why don't you just quote the offending sentence?
Cuthbert Allgood
(5,339 posts)I don't like the god stuff in there because I would like us to keep government secular. i don't have any specific problems with his religious views. They are, from what I can tell, very progressive.
My problem: If we let the "good" religious people bring religion into government, it makes it harder to keep the "bad" religious people out of government, e.g. bans on gay marriage.
I don't think that is too hard to understand, and I don't know how much more plainly I can explain it if you need a 4th time.
old as dirt
(1,972 posts)...if they come from a different culture than your own?
Cuthbert Allgood
(5,339 posts)I don't care if they are religious or pastors. If they are acting as a government official, I would rather they leave god out of it. Which Warnock did not do in his speech.
And I'm saying all religions and not just a specific Christian sect that Warnock belongs to.
old as dirt
(1,972 posts)...upon being shown his actual speech, that there is nothing offensive in his speech.
So this boils down to his identity, and your fundamentalist opposition to his identity.
Cuthbert Allgood
(5,339 posts)I stand by that.
But if you are just going to continue to, ironically, put words in my mouth rather than go with what I've actually said, I don't see a need to continue.
My stance on politicians using god in their position as a politician has been consistent and straight forward.
old as dirt
(1,972 posts)I'm an atheist, but not a fundamentalist.
I don't assume that other cultures are inferior to mine.
Cuthbert Allgood
(5,339 posts)It. has to do with our secular government. You agree our government is secular, right?
We should be doing everything we can to keep religion out of government. People can do the religion all they want on their own time.
And, really, please stop with the strawman arguments.
old as dirt
(1,972 posts)In this case, Black culture here in the USA.
I'm not a fundamentalist.
Cuthbert Allgood
(5,339 posts)Your attempts to make me a racist are failing, obvious, and tiresome.
Congrats on not being a fundamentalist. I hope that makes you happy. I'm not either. Nor are most here.
old as dirt
(1,972 posts)...I'll consult historians, anthropologists, sociologists, etc with actual expertise on the subject.
I've done no such thing, but your defensiveness is noted.
One cannot even hope to understand the evolution of culture (including religion) without considering white supremacy.
whathehell
(30,326 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)CrispyQ
(40,570 posts)They even co-opted the birth process & crafted Eve from one of Adam's ribs. And sadly, a whole bunch of women bought into it.
Years ago, I worked with a woman who honestly believed that men had one less rib than women did.
lindysalsagal
(22,823 posts)Even is the politicians are hugs, rapists, abortionists, and wife abusers who don't support need children.
Wednesdays
(21,515 posts)from past demographic statistics in Georgia senate elections, unless the Dem candidate was a "Dixiecrat."
Emile
(40,113 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)women's rights - right wing women exist, and will in a red state. They just think the old fashioned "deal" under the patriarchy works fine for them and is the way God intended, and so on.
ismnotwasm
(42,661 posts)And please, to my fellow white women, there is no need to be defensive about ones own political virtue. I dont vote for republicans either.
This is a serious problem.
uponit7771
(93,455 posts)... did all he could to lose this election outside of biting puppies on live TV.
Thx in advance
peacebuzzard
(5,789 posts)I can't wait until it's time to leave work and I usually run out as fast as I can.
I will just leave it at that and save further expletives.
Sancho
(9,172 posts)...and I taught in rural public school in both states.
If there was a single overriding motivation for voting Repub, it's racism. The "white" culture has learned how to rationalize, lie, hide, and sneak around racism, but that's the value driving votes for anything the GOP throws out. Yes, there are gun nuts and right-to-life people, but around the dinner table it's a covert racism against all things not-white.
electric_blue68
(25,442 posts)Northern racists as well that didn't have a strong current of racism underlying every thing else. And for the RW Religious sexism as well.
Demsrule86
(71,465 posts)my sister. And consider without their vote, we would have lost. Every vote is needed. I tire of this sort of attack on white women.
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RobinA
(10,464 posts)who actually voted, this is pretty meaningless.
Also, and I could be wrong about this, I thought Hershel Walker was black. Which makes both candidates black. Which makes race kinda not the point. But OK, let's bash white people. It's the trend these days. This too shall pass.
countingbluecars
(4,771 posts)white republicans. They voted for what republicans stand for-not for the black man.
yardwork
(68,838 posts)Herschel Walker is a caricature of what white racists want to believe all Black men are like. Voting for him affirms their racist fantasies.
Sky Jewels
(9,148 posts)(I'm a white woman.)
whathehell
(30,326 posts)than their female counterparts, but don't let that stop the Race-Based Misogyny Fest.
Keepthesoulalive
(2,082 posts)I'm asking that question because it is often asked of minorities when they vote for the Republicans. they must explain and atone for that vote.
relayerbob
(7,338 posts)My wife and I are both in our 60s, and would no more vote for a Q-ball than swim across a lake of lava. And Walker is at the bottom end of the GQP gene pool.
Joinfortmill
(19,818 posts)moondust
(21,173 posts)Somebody's exit poll? How accurate?
I've never had my vote associated with gender or race.
Scrivener7
(58,042 posts)snowybirdie
(6,519 posts)are different. I've lost an entire branch of my family in Georgia because I'm one of those librulls! They don't even respect that I'm their grandmother. Sad!
Ford_Prefect
(8,490 posts)They deal in magical cures, invented history, and Dogmatic faith in the party line.
To accept their assertions is to believe there is only ONE patriotic party with the right to political ownership of America.
Midnight Writer
(25,110 posts)I'm thankful and respectful to anyone who voted blue, even if the majority of the people in their "group" did not side with us.
There are all kinds of "groups" we can divide folks into. My bet is that the biggest difference in voters is rural/urban, regardless of race.
anotherOKIE
(90 posts)The only accurate way to know who voted would be to identify the individual voters along with their ballots and that doesn't happen. Isn't all of this just anecdotal? For what it's worth, as a white male in his 70's I have heard white male bashing most of my life and it is really tiring. If white males didn't support Democratic candidates the Democrats would never win... but that can be said about all genders and all ethnicities, right?
Celerity
(53,438 posts)anotherOKIE
(90 posts)Yes, I know that. No one disputes your statement. What I am saying is that we shouldn't paint everyone with the same brush. But I know that you are not doing that, you are probably very nice and tolerant and I mean that sincerely. Really all I am doing is venting a little bit about being continually judged by other people as a white, conservative, christian when I am very much not that.
cleolew
(18 posts)I am another white woman who has never voted for a Republican. Even lost friends over Trump.
I live in CA and previously lived in Arizona and grew up in PA. So proud of the voters in those two states.
I think it is geography, economics, religion, education and yes, racism that drives white women to vote against their own
best interest. There are plenty of us white women (all of my sisters, daughter, nieces and college friends) who vote for decency,
compassion, fairness, intelligence in a candidate.
BlueKentuckyGirl
(515 posts)As I white woman, approaching the age of 70, I get so tired of being lumped in with white women who vote Republican or vote for the more conservative Democrats running against the more liberal candidates. All white women are not the same so please don't assume we would have voted for Walker over Warnock or for Hillary over say.. Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren. I've always voted for the more progressive Democratic candidates, and NEVER for a Republican. It just gets tiresome. Oh, and also, my niece, who lives in Georgia and is very white, voted for Warnock and was ecstatic over his victory. I'm sure there are a few more white in Georgia who would resent your snarky title. Maybe you could have entitled is "SOME white women did their white women shit in GA".
Boomerproud
(9,095 posts)Maybe it's time to say goodbye.
BlueKentuckyGirl
(515 posts)To whom? The poster was the one that irritated me with his title to the post. I am not disputing that a LOT of white women vote against their best interest by supporting Republicans and conservative Democrats. I just wish people would not act as though ALL white women vote this way. Give some of us some credit for having some sense.
Boomerproud
(9,095 posts)BlueKentuckyGirl
(515 posts)I just didn't know who you were saying that it was maybe time to say goodbye to. DU? Who? Just trying to clarify.
Boomerproud
(9,095 posts)There are spectacular people on here but I came here for the sense of community and it has devolved in certain cases into other toxic social media, which was to be expected. I have been called a liar. Thank you for your concern and I wish you the very best. You deserved clarification.
BlueKentuckyGirl
(515 posts)Not wanting to leave DU just because one person posted something with a title with which I don't agree. I like this site and find most of the information factual and informative.
UpInArms
(53,897 posts)electric_blue68
(25,442 posts)for keeping our Country in Democratic hands!!!!!
And a shout out to my fellow White Women college educated, or not for voting for Democrats as well! Including those who changed from Republican to Democrats like Hillary Clinton! 👍
Ms. Toad
(38,062 posts)Is there a reason your call-out is gender-based?
electric_blue68
(25,442 posts)Last edited Thu Dec 8, 2022, 03:00 PM - Edit history (1)
Democratic household. 🧡
Both my parents were 1st Gen ______-American 🧡 Democrats. Dad was center liberal, mom was
liberal progressive.
Both supported Civil Rights. They welcomed my Black, Latino, and Asian friends into our home, and had no problems with me visiting my friend's homes as well. 👍
I grew up Moderately Religious Catholic with The Sermon on The Mount being the primary base of practice. Learning as I grew up of similar beliefs in All Religions except the RW varieties.
delisen
(7,188 posts)Atlanta has has had two female mayors, both black, and each did much good for the city.
electric_blue68
(25,442 posts)delisen
(7,188 posts)I grew up up in NYC.
electric_blue68
(25,442 posts)downtown, and now the middle western Bronx. 👍
electric_blue68
(25,442 posts)brush
(61,033 posts)Where that those figures?
delisen
(7,188 posts)We achieved this with the votes of both black and white Georgians as well as non Jewish Georgians. We are still working on getting a woman governor, sect of state, and attorney general.
There may be a lesson here for those of you who live in states with less diversity in representation than we have now achieved in our senatorial delegation.
I suggest that trying to divide women into white women and black women, lowering expectations of male voters, and dumping on voters in general is not the way to go.
Cha
(316,291 posts)Hope Still.. they're always on the Front Lines Fighting For Our Democracy by GOTV!!
I Appreciate them with all my heart & soul!
I was glad to see some Very Happy White Women at Sen Warnock's Victory party! In the minority, of course, but obviously grateful for the Senator to be Reelected!
Chainfire
(17,757 posts)electric_blue68
(25,442 posts)that most white women vote Republican, I really do!
I think this is truly dawning on me for the first time! 🙄😄 Duh! But it's kinda understandable.
(While I think I'm a bit more aware that more men vote Republican)
.
And bc living in NYC where more women are Democrats then really the rest of the USA - except for blue cities, and towns(!!!); that that strengthens my wrong perceptions!
(I hope this makes sense! 😄 )
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mcar
(45,581 posts)I also don't get why young women in Florida seem to be OK with being 2nd class citizens so they didn't bother voting.
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Iris
(16,817 posts)And they are not oppressed.
FakeNoose
(39,875 posts)This post is sexist and it shouldn't be allowed on DU.
If you care to make a comment about "white Repukes" well OK - I have no problem with that.
tishaLA
(14,706 posts)Maybe it's because I'm in L.A. and the population is a lot different here than in GA (less Mexican-American, Salvadoran, Guatemalan), but Latinas are strongly Democratic here.
We really need to shore up our support among Latina/os for sure. Get to work building or improving existing culturally attuned structures within the communities.
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58Sunliner
(6,273 posts)If women represent @51% of all eligible voters, that would be @ 26% of all voters who voted (women), assuming racial parity. Of that 26%, 59.4% were white, per the census, so the actual percent of white women who voted was 15.34%. Of that 15.43%, 68%, according to this table, voted for Walker. So actual percent of white women who voted for Walker was 10.43%. White women voters by population and race, make up @ 30% of all eligible voters in the state of Georgia. Basically a third of them voted for Walker. If you are going to use statistics please include the pertinent data. What's wrong with my demographic? It only gives a partial picture. It's bad that anyone voted for Walker, but if we continue to miss the big picture, which is low voter turnout, we will not progress.
iemanja
(57,291 posts)What else is new? Most white people vote Republican. How is that a surprise to you?
CloudWatcher
(2,127 posts)The chart was posted by some twit called "NicolasEdny" ... google isn't turning up anything about
why I should believe their numbers.
Reminder that data like this is not part of the vote. It'll have to be collected with exit-polls or
by some other means. E.g. it's likely BS until proven otherwise.
YoshidaYui
(44,864 posts)must live on the EAST and West Coast or something.
pnwmom
(110,171 posts)besides the fact that we don't know who the pollster was, where they conducted the interviews, and how they accounted for the fact that Democrats tended to vote before election day, and Republicans on the day of.
YoshidaYui
(44,864 posts)I'm Asian.
pnwmom
(110,171 posts)There's no information on who conducted the poll and where they conducted it. The whole state? A specific city or county?
If this is a traditional exit poll, then the stats were drawn from willing interviews of ELECTION DAY voters. And we know that election day voters are heavily made up of Republicans.
Maybe these numbers are accurate but there's no way to tell from this tweet. I certainly would not use this as a pretense to dump on all white women.
uponit7771
(93,455 posts)pnwmom
(110,171 posts)how they conducted the poll, which matters since Republicans are most likely to vote at the polls on Election day.
Scrivener7
(58,042 posts)for white vs. black, but I could find NO sources that broke out white and black women and white and black men.
cstanleytech
(28,145 posts)uponit7771
(93,455 posts)betsuni
(28,620 posts)Temeret
(80 posts)just throwing possibilities out there.
another one is that the 30% of women who voted for Warnock are being lumped into this group.
another one is that Georgia is not Massachusetts, and people may be aware of the distinction not everyone expects White Georgia women to vote the same as white Massachusetts women
Native
(7,287 posts)Ilsa
(63,737 posts)I think many of them vote the way their husbands vote. It's not that they are taking orders from them in all cases, but the women see this as a way to please their spouse. They subjugate their needs, or minimize the perceived damage, to what their husbands want.
The Third Doctor
(447 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)about the world are powerful and typically change very little in any of us. Political psychologists discovered a LONG time ago, repeated since by decades of studies, that people normally vote their convictions over what others often imagine is their personal interest.
Reality is, many nonwhite strong conservatives share a lot more beliefs with white MAGAs than with liberals of any race. Throw a bag over their heads, often won't be able to tell them apart.