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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBrittany's release: Karine Jean-Pierre said: "It was one or none. The choice of who was Russia's."
This is in response to the numerous DUers who think she got some sort of undeserved preferential treatment from the White House. Who repeated the Russian charges as though they are truth itself. Who demanded to know why she was there in the first place.
Dont ask me who not only is it against TOS to do call-outs by name, but I lost count.
One or none. Bidens admin is still working on Whelans case and whoever else is there. Whelans brother isnt blaming Biden.
How can anyone crap on this great accomplishment of the Biden administration? I swear if President Biden cured cancer, they would complain that he didnt cure the common cold. Celebrating here in Ohio.
tulipsandroses
(8,251 posts)at the fact that an American is heading back to America. What do these naysayers want? For the Biden Admin to say no keep her imprisoned if we cant get both at the same time?
She was arrested because of her celebrity status. Whose fault is that? Biden? Or is that the fault of a maniacal dictator?
One could just be happy with the return of one of our own citizens AND actually appreciate that her celebrity status pulled more interest towards other Americans held in Russia and other places around the world.
Alhena
(3,076 posts)If so, would be hard to make the case the greater good has been served.
tulipsandroses
(8,251 posts)This made major headlines but America has a long history of negotiating with bad guys, outside of the headlines. Whenever there is an opportunity to bring our people home, we should do so. Those people buying arms, didnt stop doing it because this guy was in prison.
Elessar Zappa
(16,385 posts)inthewind21
(4,616 posts)because she took hashish oil into Russia, even she admits that. Which by the way, can get you arrested right here in the US as well depending on what state you are caught in. The bonus for Russia was she was a known name who broke a Russian law and she would be better leverage. Why anyone would give the Russians a reason to throw you in their clink is beyond me. US law doesn't apply in Russia any more than Russian law applies in the US. Anyone remember Otto Wombier? Or his parents (Trumps props, until they were no longer useful) Do I think it was bullshit in both cases? Yes, I do. But US law means nadda in foreign countries. And going to a hostile country, like N. Korea or Russia, and giving them a reason to knab you it just about the stupidest move ever.
tulipsandroses
(8,251 posts)They were not going to negotiate otherwise. I dont trust propagandists. Russias courts are a sham. We are not dealing with people who do things honestly or fairly.
moonscape
(5,722 posts)enough about Russia to enter squeaky clean, so the fault is hers. Dumb mistake, reckless chance. Very glad shes coming home, but had she not been so stupid, we wouldnt have had to make that trade. Hopefully, this is a teaching moment, but my concern is how effective authoritarian regimes will think planting small evidence could be.
TheBlackAdder
(29,981 posts)Wounded Bear
(64,323 posts)one that doesn't like us much to boot.
Getting Ms Briner home is a great accomplishment on its own merit.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)Like the POTUS can just decide what happens in a foreign country.
tulipsandroses
(8,251 posts)I dont buy that it was missed here in America and found in Russia. What a coinkidink!
The nonsense that some people come up with, makes me go huh? When this initially happened, some posters said she must have gotten away with it a bunch of times and got busted this time. I said this then, if you believe that, then we have much bigger problems.
If US airports, consistently fail at detecting illegal substances. Boy are we in trouble.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)US airports consistently fail at detecting pretty much everything.
https://reason.com/2021/11/19/after-20-years-of-failure-kill-the-tsa/
stopdiggin
(15,462 posts)and in addition - cartridges are just cartridges, until tested for what they contain. Griner has admitted backwards and forwards that the 'goods' were hers - with the addition of a (U.S.) doctor's prescription submitted by her own defense ...
All of which says nothing to the fact that this celebrity sports figure was employed as a bargaining chip and had the misfortune to fall into the Russian legal system at a time when - well, that part is fairly self-evident. But the continued contortions necessary hold up a claim of 'innocent' or a 'frame up' ... Nope.
I'm glad the young lady is home. Kudos to all those involved in effecting her release. And - strongly suspect that nothing Biden and team attempted were going to avail .. until most recently, when Valdimir himself, felt the need for some positive publicity.
jcgoldie
(12,046 posts)It was a stray cat that we found coming into our casa from the jungle every night to eat our leftover fish. I bought a huge bag of bulk catfood for the owner to take care of her when we left. She refused. So I brought her home in a duffle bag right under the seat on the plane. Through the metal detector in Puerto Vallarta. Through US customs in Houston. Onto another plane home and out the door in StLouis. She lives happily in our farmhouse in Illinois to this day.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)My complaint is about those who seem to see Brittney mostly in terms of identity group.
As an old straight white woman, they make me feel I'd rot and die without their noticing in a hard-labor penal colony. Wrong political identity. A nobody at best. A "white woman" at worst.
God! This is DU. But this is not typical Democratic thinking. Democrats are generous and inclusive. We believe everyone has the right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.
We contain multitudes.
betsuni
(29,075 posts)Bout, out of the loop in prison for fifteen years, is immediately going to kill everyone because his old customers (terrorist groups and dictators are known for their steadfast loyalty and longevity) are eagerly awaiting his calls because the arms dealing business totally stopped when Bout was arrested. BAD DEAL, the Worst Case Scenarios say. Suddenly there are an awful lot of experts on arms dealers, prisoner exchanges, and of course they can all tell the future. Not possible that Bout might just want to see his mama and taste her soup again and maybe enjoy being out of prison before launching into his plans to kill everybody.
Whatabout! Whatabout Whelan? Whatabout other prisoners? The Biden administration only paid attention to Griner's case because they were forced to, blah blah blah.
These kinds of comments are everywhere.
Stinky The Clown
(68,952 posts)I've had to stand on my tongue and sit on my hands at reading and interpreting what was being said right here in River City.