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David Jolly, on MSNBC, just called it a forgone conclusion that the new House . . . . . (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Dec 2022 OP
let em, matters not. senate will not convict nt msongs Dec 2022 #1
I will pull a Carnac and prognosticate that the GOP will impeach Biden 3 times to outdo Trump's 2. TheBlackAdder Dec 2022 #13
It's a lot of work. Kid Berwyn Dec 2022 #19
Anything to distract from doing things that would benefit the average folk. TheBlackAdder Dec 2022 #21
Ipeachments are unpopular with voters. speak easy Dec 2022 #43
Not to the MAGA mind. TheBlackAdder Dec 2022 #47
Maybe he should consult Newt Gingrich about impeaching a popular Democratic president Walleye Dec 2022 #2
Newt has already come out and said Johonny Dec 2022 #12
Ha! Well he ought to know. Maybe Kevin has a mistress Walleye Dec 2022 #25
Like Trumpeachment 1.0, it will be a futile exercise maxsolomon Dec 2022 #3
I think they could attempt to impeach him. I don't believe they'll have the votes. Beautiful Disaster Dec 2022 #4
Who are the moderate Republican NYers? wnylib Dec 2022 #16
The ones who won Biden districts. Beautiful Disaster Dec 2022 #30
Hope you are right. My experience with wnylib Dec 2022 #36
Kevin is not very good at counting votes. He will be a terrible speaker Walleye Dec 2022 #26
Impeaching Biden is the dumbest possible thing they could do EarlG Dec 2022 #5
Well they ARE following up on campaign promises underpants Dec 2022 #6
That's what I was thinking.. Cha Dec 2022 #10
But ...his laptop. wnylib Dec 2022 #20
Oh yeah.. Thanks for Cha Dec 2022 #29
Tara Reed. She claimed Biden sexually assaulted her. haele Dec 2022 #38
If they go for the Afghanistan withdrawal, wnylib Dec 2022 #40
MTG actually added the release of Brittney Griner to her reasons for impeaching Biden, tblue37 Dec 2022 #34
omg.. That Gaslit Idiot needs to Cha Dec 2022 #37
Tweet.. Whelan was arrested in 2018.. Cha Dec 2022 #39
Do they understand that if Mr Biden is not POTUS, VP Kamala Harris is POTUS? irisblue Dec 2022 #7
They know it won't work anyway. They just want Solomon Dec 2022 #33
The Senate won't even take it up bucolic_frolic Dec 2022 #8
lol .. just to show off to their Cha Dec 2022 #11
Damn that's a good rebranding concept ... MAGA as Zombies bucolic_frolic Dec 2022 #14
would I be in the minority if I say I hope they do? mnmoderatedem Dec 2022 #9
Pelosi actually resisted impeaching Trump for as long as she coukd, but he just wouldn't stop tblue37 Dec 2022 #35
For the high crimes and misdemeanors of (as if you didn't know already)......... DFW Dec 2022 #15
I'm sure the Republican House members from NY and CA that gave them their majority... W_HAMILTON Dec 2022 #17
In some California districts Mr.Bill Dec 2022 #23
The narrow-margin districts are the ones that put the Republicans over the top... W_HAMILTON Dec 2022 #24
Cole of Oklahoma is a hard core right-winger, how does Jolly think he will get Dem votes? irisblue Dec 2022 #18
This is NOT a defense of Cole, but he has been occasionally on the right(left) side of issues Stinky The Clown Dec 2022 #41
He has decades of history of being anti choice. irisblue Dec 2022 #42
To be clear, I am not endorsing him. Mainly passing on Jolly's postulation. Stinky The Clown Dec 2022 #44
I totally understand that. irisblue Dec 2022 #45
performance for the cult Skittles Dec 2022 #22
"Fan Service" ThoughtCriminal Dec 2022 #27
I'm not sure about Constitutional Law Trenzalore Dec 2022 #28
I can't imagine Democrats supporting Cole. onenote Dec 2022 #31
Both of Chump's impeachments were just justified - the Dems had grounds and proof of his guilt FakeNoose Dec 2022 #32
i doubt they will impeach Takket Dec 2022 #46

maxsolomon

(33,369 posts)
3. Like Trumpeachment 1.0, it will be a futile exercise
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 07:03 PM
Dec 2022

But UNLIKE Trumpeachment 1.0, it will be an utter Clown Car of a Clusterfuck of an Embarrassment.

THEY GOT NOTHING.

 

Beautiful Disaster

(667 posts)
4. I think they could attempt to impeach him. I don't believe they'll have the votes.
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 07:03 PM
Dec 2022

And that would be a bigger disaster for the GOP than any other alterative. There's enough moderate winners in New York who won't vote to impeach Biden unless there's an absolute case and McCarthy bringing up an impeachment vote that ends with it being voted down would be a huge embarrassment.

 

Beautiful Disaster

(667 posts)
30. The ones who won Biden districts.
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 08:18 PM
Dec 2022

They're the reason the House isn't Democratic going forward.

They won't have the luxury of being rabid conservatives in districts that lean-center or Biden.

wnylib

(21,562 posts)
36. Hope you are right. My experience with
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 08:36 PM
Dec 2022

NY Republicans is that they know that they need to sound "centrist" to win, but what they say on campaigns and what they do in office are often not the same.

EarlG

(21,960 posts)
5. Impeaching Biden is the dumbest possible thing they could do
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 07:03 PM
Dec 2022

Which is fine by me. I guess the lesson they're taking away from the mid-term red trickle is that voters want Republicans to be EVEN MORE extreme, insane, and divisive.

Please proceed...

underpants

(182,866 posts)
6. Well they ARE following up on campaign promises
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 07:08 PM
Dec 2022

sure their echo chamber is nuts and they have more outlets to out outrage each other. Yeah. Go ahead. Knock your own ass out.

Cha

(297,503 posts)
10. That's what I was thinking..
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 07:18 PM
Dec 2022

It seems like it would only Motivate Dems & Indies to be More Active.. not less.

Besides.. what did Pres Biden do? That is insane. They're down the Rabbit Hole having tea with the Mad Hatter.

Pres Biden invited Kev & his Mom to his First State Dinner and Kev wants to Impeach him because mtg?

wnylib

(21,562 posts)
20. But ...his laptop.
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 07:32 PM
Dec 2022

That's what they will try to base it on. Creating implications that Biden has had crooked dealings with foreign governments. Remember, they accuse others of what they are doing.

haele

(12,673 posts)
38. Tara Reed. She claimed Biden sexually assaulted her.
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 08:44 PM
Dec 2022

They will also try to impeach over the Afghanistan withdrawal.

Haele

wnylib

(21,562 posts)
40. If they go for the Afghanistan withdrawal,
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 09:17 PM
Dec 2022

Dems will make them regret it. The media did an extremely poor job of covering how Trump set up a no win situation by selling out the Afghan government to the Taliban in an agreement to withdraw US troops. Then Trump's State Department obstructed attempts to vet people for evacuation.

Biden managed to get an extension of time for the withdrawal and then rushed to vet people - US citizens and Afghan people who were US loyalists - in order to get them out in time. Biden's choices after Trump's sellout to the Taliban were to leave without our citizens and loyal Afghans or go back to square one and fight the Taliban war all over again.

Biden refused to reignite the war and still managed to evacuate thousands of people.

Most Americans do not know this background, thanks to corporate media who backed Republicans on this. But if the House brings up this crap again, the full story will come out very publicly.

tblue37

(65,480 posts)
34. MTG actually added the release of Brittney Griner to her reasons for impeaching Biden,
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 08:30 PM
Dec 2022

because he couldn't get Whelan out.

mnmoderatedem

(3,728 posts)
9. would I be in the minority if I say I hope they do?
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 07:11 PM
Dec 2022

it's a political loser for republicans. Democrats did not set out to impeach trump; they only did so when his actions warranted it. If repubs want to drive this clown car, it is going to be exposed in no uncertain terms as spitting into the win. Voters will take notice.

tblue37

(65,480 posts)
35. Pelosi actually resisted impeaching Trump for as long as she coukd, but he just wouldn't stop
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 08:32 PM
Dec 2022

committing impeachable offenses.

DFW

(54,434 posts)
15. For the high crimes and misdemeanors of (as if you didn't know already).........
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 07:25 PM
Dec 2022

1.) Being elected to the presidency as a Democrat, and

2.) Doing a damned good job of it, too.

W_HAMILTON

(7,871 posts)
17. I'm sure the Republican House members from NY and CA that gave them their majority...
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 07:30 PM
Dec 2022

...will love having to defend that in 2024.

As someone once famously said, "please proceed."

Mr.Bill

(24,312 posts)
23. In some California districts
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 07:40 PM
Dec 2022

they will be cheered for it. Not so much in districts they won by a narrow margin.

W_HAMILTON

(7,871 posts)
24. The narrow-margin districts are the ones that put the Republicans over the top...
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 07:42 PM
Dec 2022

...and are the exact ones I'm referring to.

irisblue

(33,018 posts)
18. Cole of Oklahoma is a hard core right-winger, how does Jolly think he will get Dem votes?
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 07:30 PM
Dec 2022

Clearly, I'll need to see this interview on YouTube later

Stinky The Clown

(67,817 posts)
41. This is NOT a defense of Cole, but he has been occasionally on the right(left) side of issues
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 09:19 PM
Dec 2022

He has always seemed, to me at least, a person I largely disagree with at the outset who demonstrates an ability to listen and a willingness to move.

irisblue

(33,018 posts)
42. He has decades of history of being anti choice.
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 09:30 PM
Dec 2022

His wiki page is telling.
"Political positions
Edit
Cole supported President Donald Trump's 2017 executive order to impose a temporary ban on entry to the U.S. to citizens of seven Muslim-majority countries.[16]

In January 2021, Cole voted against the certification of the Electoral College results in the 2020 presidential election.[17] He subsequently voluntarily gave up an honorary degree from Grinnell College.[18] In May 2021, Cole voted against the creation of a bipartisan commission to investigate the January 6 insurrection.[19]

In 2021, Cole joined a majority of Republican representatives in signing onto an amicus brief to overturn Roe v. Wade.[20] Following the Supreme Court's decision to overrule Roe in June 2022, Cole celebrated the outcome, saying in part "not only is this a monumental win for states’ rights, but also the rights of unborn children."[21]"

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
28. I'm not sure about Constitutional Law
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 08:05 PM
Dec 2022

but couldn't the Senate Majority leader give them 15 minutes to present their case and call a vote lol.

onenote

(42,742 posts)
31. I can't imagine Democrats supporting Cole.
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 08:26 PM
Dec 2022

Why would they? He's a Trumper. He voted against the certification of the Electoral College results and he voted against the creation of a commission to investigate the January 6 insurrection. He also signed onto an amicus brief urging the SCOTUS to overturn Roe.

On what planet would he be a "consensus" speaker?



FakeNoose

(32,714 posts)
32. Both of Chump's impeachments were just justified - the Dems had grounds and proof of his guilt
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 08:27 PM
Dec 2022

How does McCarthy - or any of the Repukes - justify impeaching Biden?

They've got NOTHING. They're just pissing in the wind.



Takket

(21,611 posts)
46. i doubt they will impeach
Thu Dec 8, 2022, 09:51 PM
Dec 2022

first off they really don't have the votes in the House. A few rethugs will break loose from that effort and stop it.

there is more mileage for their "meat feeding to the base" efforts of just constantly TALKING about it, rather than doing it. if they actually do it Schumer should ABSOLUTELY go through with the trial so when they present NOTHING, they will be torched.

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