Fuck you Sinema

[malaise]

That is all

[mnmoderatedem]

1. [phone]

registering as an independent.

and right after we pick up a one seat majority.

removes all doubt about it being all about her her her.

[Scalded Nun]

55. picking up the 1 seat majority is what drove this announcement

[TheBlackAdder]

77. I bet those two had this worked out for months. Just sayin'

.



.

[Celerity]

2. She damn well better still caucus with us.

[brush]

10. So we Dems will still have a majority, 50-49 instead of...

51-49, is that how that works, and we still get committee chairs and majority on committees?

Or does it depend on her caucusing with Democrats instead of republicans, and if she caucuses with republicans, does that put us right back into a 50-50 split?

[Deuce]

15. I have the same concerns!

[2naSalit]

37. We lose majority in committees...

Which also rips the power of subpoena from Dems. She is a fucking traitor because she fucking knows this.

FUCK THAT TRAITOR TO HELL!!

I call on karma to do its thing.

So Maybe we could flip someone like Murkowski-? Someone who actually gives a fuck about Democracy and maybe a woman who cares about not becoming a handmaid.

[brush]

40. She's definitely a disgusting traitor, but my question is if she...

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caucuses with Dems do we still lose the majority on committees? She seems to have indicated she will still caucus with us Dems.

My first instinct was to hope Schumer would strip her committee assignments but if she still caususes with Dems, pragmatism should prevail, we leave her in place and grit our teeth with her obstructionist moves until she's out in the '24 election as she'll more than likely lose if she runs as an Indy.

[2naSalit]

43. Hardly matters now.

We are still stuck in gridlock and she is to blame, entirely. We are not going to be able to do at least half the stuff we need to get done like investigations that won't be happening in the House now.

This has Moscowmitch taint all over it.

[brush]

51. That's a given as the repubs won the House and will go...

hearing crazy against Hunter Biden, Joe Biden and other Dems. Sinema doing her disgusting traitor moves in the Senate, I'm still not clear how it plays out.

[2naSalit]

56. It plays out like this...

With 51, a clear majority, we hold power of subpoena for investigations, without it the committees are still split and the traitors have the ability to prevent investigations from moving forward. (Schumer was elated because we were finally going to be able to have some teeth, not now which makes me think that MM was helping her decide.)

It also removes any buffer we gained, momentarily, from her and Manchin's bullshit.

That's just the top of the pile of shit we can't overcome now thanks to the attention starved attention whore.

I want her to suffer the greatest humiliation she can imagine and soon, something that makes her resign.

Thia just makes me feel like I need to start preparing for my own demise as I can't envision that I will last long when the bullshit in the streets gets rolling.

[InstantGratification]

80. She announced she will caucus with Dems, we still have a 51/49 majority in votes

We will still have the committee majorities and subpoena power. She can take those things away from us at any time by caucusing with or switching to R and sending us back to the power sharing 50/50 split. (or by just threatening to) This is a play to keep the outsized power she has enjoyed the last two years.

I think the real danger is in 2026. She could run as an independent and split the D vote just enough to hand the seat to an R until 2032.

[Celerity]

83. Unless you have some brand new link, she has NOT announced she will for sure caucus with us

[budkin]

91. She specifically said she WON'T caucus with the GOP

Is it possible to just NOT caucus? I'm actually unclear.

[Celerity]

92. Yes, she could refuse to caucus with either Party. I am not sure if 50-49 means we do not have to

power share. I so hope so.

[brush]

111. She's up for re-election in '24 not '26.

[brush]

108. Thanks for this analysis. It clears up a lot of the ins-and-outs.

[certainot]

127. the easy way to end this shit is for the dem party or an allied org to declare, nonchalantly, that

since AI now allows for rw talk radio to be easily digitized and analyzed, including retroactively, that's in the plans. the MIT Media Lab project using AI to automatically record, transcribe, and analyze 2.8 Mil words of talk radio (non political) will be used as a prototype, etc.

the RW think tanks and the GOP will freak out and advertisers will start to abandon political talk radio unless the ad industry acts quickly to break up the rw radio monopoly. without that massive messaging advantage in 40+ states the country will go 10 points left, truth will play a bigger part in politics again, and dems will get supermajorities they should have had when doing something about global warming wasn't so urgent.

take the Ga senate election - why the fuck should it have been close? or the other 2022 elections for that matter. because rural voters are all fucking idiots? why does the GOP want to stop free internet infrastructure? it's their massive but invisible rw radio monopoly that makes the difference. in Ga dems let 3 universities support 14 ex limbaugh stations. without complaint. that's stupid.

in NC, where RW pushed the recent huge voting redistricting case to the supremes with the help of a shiltload of radio stations - dems ignore that North Carolina 8, North Carolina State 3, Duke 3, East Carolina 2 - support 16 ex limbaugh stations. it's dumb. apparently if that decision goes wrong students at those schools might be out of luck voting. it doesn't get stupider than that.

wait, there is something stupider. 87+ universities support 260+ radio stations by broadcasting football on them while they attack kneeling athletes call the stephanie griner deal a treasonous disgrace.

[littlewolf]

107. Here is my concern

She stays within the D fold.. caucuse with us..
24 she runs as an indi.. Team D doesn’t run anyone
Against her or split the D vote n give the seat to GOP.

[True Blue American]

25. She will!

Claims she will keep her Democratic committees. I hope Schumer takes her off some of them.

Democrats broke tradition naming Patty Murray 3 rd in line for the Preidency instead of 89 year old Feinstein.

[quakerboy]

124. Why?

[Celerity]

134. Because we will be back to power sharing if she doesn't, which fucks us in committees

It will slow things down greatly, and will prevent some actions.

[quakerboy]

143. Isnt that the whole point?

Shes here to cash in. Whoever offers her the most.

[brush]

3. Thank you. She's such an obvious attention whore.

This move was calculated to get the most eyeballs, and to dampen the Dems recent, big victories.

She so going to get primaried in '24.

[Celerity]

5. IF she runs as an indie in 2024, we are in deep shit for that seat, as Gallego (the likely Dem) will

lose more votes to her than the Rethug will, especially a non complete MAGAt like Ducey.

Hopefully this switch means she is out in 2024.

[hlthe2b]

11. She'll have corporate money in spades...So Gallego will need Dem $$ to match

in any primary and R's in AZ may just intervene in that match-up.

[mucifer]

17. I bet she retires and becomes a lobbyist.

[ShazzieB]

70. I agree.

I'll be very surprised if she runs again, and becoming a lobbyist would be a likely next step.

[wackadoo wabbit]

27. Not likely. The last time I checked, she had a 9% approval rating amongst ...

registered Democrats in Arizona. And that was before she became an Independent.

I have no reason to believe that her approval rating has gone up.

[Celerity]

33. higher than 9 per cent, it was 37 per cent in September 2022 in one poll

Link to tweet

Kyrsten Sinema: unpopular among everyone.

Sometimes it seems like she's trying to please nobody, and if so, she's succeeding. Sinema is 20 points underwater among Democrats, 10 points underwater with Independents, 18 points underwater among Republicans.

[TheBlackAdder]

74. You know you are doing something wrong when you become the Ted Cruz of your party. Hated by everyone

[appmanga]

78. Those...

...are very tough numbers for an incumbent. This move is a last ditch effort for this egomaniac to try to save her seat, but if these numbers stay the same into 2024, she's vulnerable to getting beaten by a Republican without being a spoiler as an Independent. And she knows jumping parties won't save her. In fact, that would make things worse.

A lot can happen in two years, but to say she's in an unenviable electoral position is a massive understatement.

[quakerboy]

125. this is purely a move to make money

she knows she cant win a primary, or a general as a dem. Or as a republican.

Only as an independent she can be on the GE ballot and screw the democrat.

Now the race will be on.. Will Democrats pay more in extortion to get her to bow out, or will republicans offer her more in bribes to be on the ballot?

[Old Crank]

7. As an independent

Wouldn't she not be primaried? Since she won't run as a Dem.

[brush]

14. Yes, you're right. I'll delete that post.

[whopis01]

22. Correct. Splittingthe vote and getting a Republican elected

is what she will do in 2024.

[True Blue American]

28. You ever watched Sinema on the Senate floor?

She would vote, then hang around until she saw a Republican man. Would head straight for them. They actually began changing course when they saw her coming in her mini skirts and white sneakers.

[Captain Zero]

121. This sounds like she works for the Russians.

Really.

[True Blue American]

138. I watch the Senate when

They have an important vote. It was embarrassing to watch her. Few would talk to her.

You may be right, but she honestly looked like a woman in a bar, craving attention.

For some reason I can not post pictures here as I do elsewhere. Check Google.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

34. Bingo

With 51 in the caucus she was no longer the center of attention.

[2naSalit]

46. +1

And MM promised her something, you can bet on it.

[True Blue American]

71. Did you see her sitting with her arm around Mitch?

[2naSalit]

75. She's pretty blatant.

I think she's like -45 and other sickos in that kkklan.

[progressoid]

90. Oh my. Are we allowed to say that word?

[BeyondGeography]

4. And goodbye

[Murphyb849]

6. Was she not elected by the voters in ARIZONA as a Democrat?

Did THEY make this choice?

[2naSalit]

48. Nope and she should be hounded endlessly...

By her constituents for her assholishness in this move. She should have no peace anywhere. Chase her sorry fucking ass into the bathroom if she runs in there, follow her everywhere and hound her fucking ass! Call her a traitor, let her know that she condemned all of us, the whole world to ruin because she's such a selfish piece of shit.

[Progressive dog]

89. Sinema was chosen

to represent the Arizona voters until 2024. We get to elect individuals not party affiliations.

[hlthe2b]

8. At least she waited until after the midterms and GA runoff.

And Dems will not feel the need to pour $$ into her 2024 reelection campaign--or at least not in any primary.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

9. Recommend. nt

[dweller]

13. LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME LOOK AT MEEEEE !1!

✌🏻

[wnylib]

24. It's more about reelection than about ego.

She knows that she can't win next time as a Dem. As an Independent, she can get backing and money. As a Dem, she would get primaried out of the running.

[childfreebychoice]

16. I save my anger for idiot voters who elected vance, and reelected Johnson. Nt

[True Blue American]

30. I hope you sent an email to the Ohio party expressing your feelings!

I did, and also let the Democratic officials I know how I feel about their lack of support!

[moniss]

118. It is sad but true

that Wisconsin is a deeply racist state. Johnson ran a deeply racist campaign using "scary black guy" "deadbeat black guy" themes. It was just enough to get him by.

Just as an idea of how deep in their bigotry and hatred so many of these people are you can check out their bombings/shootings etc. of indigenous people of the Ojibwe when the members began exercising their fishing rights in northern Wisconsin in the late '80's and into the '90's. I remember people traveling from all over the state in order to "prevent" the Ojibwe members from fishing.

It literally ran on as a war for about 3 years. There were books written about it and a documentary done. It even gained international attention. Suffice it to say that the bigots used the most vile words for the Ojibwe along with violence. In the end the big stink the bigots made was about nothing because the tribal fishing was only ever taking 3% of the subject fish population. Rest assured those feelings towards non-whites of any kind are still mostly there all around Wisconsin. You can do a search for Wisconsin fishing war etc. and get more detail. I won't put up the images from then because it is still too disturbing to me. But as a final thought just imagine how hard it was for Barnes to even come as close as he did when faced with people who would rather commit violence against men, women and children rather than allow them even 3% of their heritage.

[True Blue American]

139. Ohio is worse

Republicans ran right over the Supreme Court. DeWines Son refused to recuse himself, they still lost.Illegal maps 5 times, still used one.Appointed themselves to an unbiased committee we voted for twice.

[Lovie777]

19. I knew she was leaving the party .......

but am surprised about going Indie not GQP.

[True Blue American]

31. She does not want to lose her

Committee assignments!

[2naSalit]

50. She should be kicked off them anyway.

Fucking traitor. All she is doing is preventing accountability for the traitors and she knows it.

Fuck her. I hope something she deserves happens soon.

[True Blue American]

66. Publicity hog.

Her stunts with Republicans in the Senate have become old hat.

[SunSeeker]

20. +1

[lefthandedskyhook]

21. What will this do to committee assignments?

Could this be why she seems to have been bought off again?

[rpannier]

36. She has said she expects to keep them

[lefthandedskyhook]

45. If she doesn't caucus with Democrats does it affect other assignments?

My understanding was that if Warnock won it would help us with other committee assignments. This could be her reason for stabbing us in the back again at this moment.

Let's make sure she loses next time and goes down in flames

[True Blue American]

140. Schumer let her keep them, but she got no special favors from him.

[njhoneybadger]

23. I concur!

[blogslug]

26. Bye bye, Moderate Pixie Dreamgirl ✨⭐✨

Have fun in your continued role as a quirky chaos agent!

[appmanga]

29. She a politician...

...trying to save her political life, which is very much in jeopardy. She's a slick one.

[Mad_Machine76]

35. Hope this backfires

Badly for her.

[The Wizard]

32. Bribery doesn't cost, it pays

Who bribed Sinema? McConnell? Putin? Who???

[gab13by13]

38. If she runs in 2024 as an Independent

that opens the door for Kari Lake.

[Montauk6]

39. Hopefully, a recall?

That too is all.

[ShazzieB]

76. Does AZ do recalls?

Not all states do. Don't know about AZ.

[BumRushDaShow]

85. There are no "recalls" for federal elective offices

[ShazzieB]

99. Thanks for this clarification.

My state doesn't do recalls for any elected offices, so I was not aware of that distinction.

[BumRushDaShow]

103. I know here in PA

we don't have any either. I guess we hear about CA and their gubernatorial "recall" attempts and I remember WI twice trying to get rid of Scott Walker by "recall". But I expect that ability is probably rare among states.

[ShazzieB]

109. My impression is that it's uncommon.

Which is why I get really tired of people assuming it's universally available, everywhere, for every kind of race.

[ShazzieB]

110. My impression is that it's uncommon.

Which is why I get really tired of people assuming it's universally available, everywhere, for every kind of race.

[Galraedia]

132. Biden should give her a position in his administration, let Hobbs appoint a democrat, and then

fire her a**.

[mountain grammy]

41. I thought it would be Manchin

After Dems won in AZ. Fuck her.

[GoCubsGo]

72. Manchin could never win a Republican primary in WV.

If he switches parties, he can kiss his seat good-bye when its term is over.

[mountain grammy]

81. and neither, I believe, would Sinema.

[CentralMass]

42. I concur.

[Meowmee]

44. Yep

She is revolting and a traitor, a narcissist and more. Whoever supported her as a candidate in the first place and those who voted for her is/ are ultimately responsible for all the harm she has done.

[ShazzieB]

79. My understanding is that she did a pretty good snow job on AZ voters.

That's what I recall people saying, that they thought they were voting for a "real" Democrat at the time, and she didn't show her true colors until after she was elected.

[yellowdogintexas]

82. according to my daughter when the other choice is a crazy lady

you don't vote for the crazy lady

In her opinion the Republican was a crazy lady almost on the level with Lake without the election denial because that wasn't a thing in 2018

[Meowmee]

93. I can tell she is a fake from everything about her so there must have been some signs

People need to be fully and properly vetted before they are even considered as a candidate. No green or former green party members.

[randr]

47. Maybe it is time for Bernie to reconsider his politics

[Vinca]

49. And Angus King, too.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

88. Huh? Bernie caucuses with the Democratic Party. Always has.

His caucus vote has never been in question - unlike many “real Democrats” over the years.

Even the media doesn’t break out the two independents when discussing the balance.

[ms liberty]

52. This. n/t

[Efilroft Sul]

53. Kyrsten Sinema is the Joe Lieberman of Ralph Naders.

[True Blue American]

97. Perfect!

[panader0]

54. I'm so disgusted to wake up to this news. I have nothing to add to your title malaise.

[Horse with no Name]

57. Seriously I want a refund

In the last year of my moms life, she contributed a lot of money to her campaign and I wish I could sue to get it back.

[malaise]

58. Well as Murphy just said

She did help with important votes.
Still you made me laugh.😀😀

[MustLoveBeagles]

59. Fuck you Sinema

I always knew it would be you not Manchin that would betray us.

[mvd]

114. Sinema is worse than Manchin in a way

Sinema is sneaky while Manchin’s bad behavior is in the open.

[MustLoveBeagles]

115. That's it exactly

[dalton99a]

60. I have far more respect for sex workers

[58Sunliner]

61. Thank you. What a nasty ....

[Joinfortmill]

62. Yeah, she never was a Democrat

Never vote for these former/current Green Party people.

[AverageOldGuy]

63. She is doing this to ensure her income from big pharma.

The best outcome would be for her to not run in 2024, instead taking a job as a high-paid lobbyist.

[lark]

64. I'd bet she got a ton of $$ for this.

Hope she uses it well, she will never win another election and is tarred for all time with being a major hypocrite and a person of zero values except her $$$.

[barbtries]

65. she thinks this will help her career I guess.

i say she's full of shit without conviction or concern for her constituents. just wait until she decides to join the (dying) republican party and all that BS about not fitting in a hole will be out the window.

thanks Malaise, i second your emotion.

[Six117]

67. THIS 100%!

BYE Felicia.

[spanone]

68. K&R

[nwliberalkiwi]

69. Primary 2024

A candidate should primary her as an Independent. She's so unpopular that she would lose as an Independent candidate in the primary. The winning Independent candidate, would then throw their support behind the Democratic candidate. Send her sorry ass packing!!!

[Emile]

86. +1

[Sogo]

123. Are there primaries for Independents?

If so, I think that's a brilliant idea!

[RocRizzo55]

73. Not even with someone else's

Penis!

[IbogaProject]

102. Agreed

[Willis88]

84. The Sinema apologist need to bugger off, too

Wolf in sheep's clothing.

[Progressive dog]

87. Sinema is immunizing herself from a primary challenge in 2024.

She made it plain she intends to keep her committee assignments, so she will caucus with the Democrats.

[madinmaryland]

94. Yes. That is the only thing negative about this.

We still have a 51-49 majority and she votes with the democrats 90% of the time. So we may be stuck with her through 2030, but I would rather she be Senator than Blake Masters or Kari Lake.

[republianmushroom]

95. agree

[Evolve Dammit]

96. Didn't take long did it??

[BigDemVoter]

98. She IS a leaky sack of shit. . . .

[MerryBlooms]

129. Wow, really? I get we're all upset when this news,

But promoting a porcupine up a woman's vagina, because you're angry? Think for a moment on that visual.

We're all disappointed, but I'm not surprised in her desperation after our awesome Dem midterms. She knows she's a loser next election.

I don't understand these horrible violent sexual connotations against women we are unhappy about. It's disheartening to read such violent wishes upon a woman or man. Prison rape jokes usua)y, and now shoving a porcupine up a woman. Really?

[I_UndergroundPanther]

141. It was spur of the moment anger

It was my bad. Ill take it down.

[Wild blueberry]

101. Dingleberry

[Cha]

104. Rec for saying the

quiet part out loud.

Craving attention after Sen Warnock to reelected.

Oh and .. The AZ Dem Party has gravitas now with their recent BLUE WINS!

Link to tweet

[malaise]

137. Sometimes it has to be said

look at me is right

[wolfie001]

105. AGREE 1000%!!!!

[NowsTheTime]

106. In the future when we have Democratic primary,

.......let's make sure the candidate we support is a Democrat.

[orangecrush]

112. K&R

[moose966]

113. you forgot to also add.

Dear Malaise: The correct sentence is "Fuck you Sinema and the horse you rode in on!"

[malthaussen]

116. Pellucidly clear. n/t

[demmiblue]

117. Careful... Starffie is going to come afinger waggin'!

She lurves her some Manchin, too!

[vapor2]

119. AND she criticized Lieberman

for the same crap she is doing.

[Blue Owl]

120. Hey Malaise

I am having some excellent dinner from our local Jamaican joynt this eve. -- spicy jerk chicken, rice & beans, cabbage, etc.

Great thing to be eating while reading your excellent post -- FUCK SINEMA -- what a turd in the punchbowl she is....

[malaise]

135. Hope it was good

😀😀

[Locutusofborg]

122. What if Manchin follows suit.

Going independent eliminates primary challenges ups reelection chances by splitting the vote three ways.

[bdamomma]

126. Just imagine

if Bernie switched over to being a Democrat again. Just wondering.

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

128. yes

[MerryBlooms]

130. The violent misogyny is from top to bottom on this OP.

I get we're all disappointed, but this has gone into some horrid stuff. 😢

[malaise]

136. For the record

I am female

[czarjak]

131. Unyielding stupidity is what it is.

[halfulglas]

133. I felt she was up to something lately. She glammed up a lot - not very tastefully.

I'm one of the out of state people who contributed to her campaign to turn Arizona blue. I want my money back. I didn't know I was sending some of my retirement money to an attention whore lecturing us about the need to be bipartisan while the Republicans are going crazy..

[Kid Berwyn]

142. Robert Reich explained.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217453060