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vlyons

(10,252 posts)
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 10:06 AM Dec 2022

Sinema thinks this will make her powerful, and it probably will

Dem and GOP lobbyists will beat a path to her door to curry her favor for their pet legislation. Senators from both sides will curry her favor as well. She can compete with Manchin for most important swing vote. This is a power play on her part.

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ebbie15644

(1,214 posts)
1. If a Dem runs in Arizona
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 10:07 AM
Dec 2022

could Sinema actually siphon votes from a republican, especially if they are a MAGA republican?

ebbie15644

(1,214 posts)
7. She will never be MAGA enough for them and would never make it running as a repub
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 10:12 AM
Dec 2022

our shot would be a three way race with a MAGA republican

Emile

(22,722 posts)
18. Yes. The reason for her switching to independent is
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 12:50 PM
Dec 2022

the talk in Arizona was she will be primaried by progressive Representative Ruben Gallego, a Harvard-educated Iraq War veteran. The only hope she has is siphoning off republican votes.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,017 posts)
11. I think she's voted with Biden more than Bernie has
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 10:29 AM
Dec 2022

Except on elimintating the filibuster - that's her red line.

House of Roberts

(5,169 posts)
12. I'll stick with Bernie's record,
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 10:46 AM
Dec 2022

if Sinema is voting more Biden than Bernie.

Senator Sinema, Kyrsten
D-Arizona
Composite Progressive Score: 77.42%

Crucial Progressive Score: 75.48%


Senator Sanders, Bernie
I-Vermont
Composite Progressive Score: 96.31%

Crucial Progressive Score: 94.52%

House of Roberts

(5,169 posts)
15. Voting to give Republicans what they want
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 11:30 AM
Dec 2022

and voting to block what Democrats want, is not my idea of legislative accomplishment. Maybe you should show your work on that claim?

Bernie has been Budget Committee Chairman the last two years. Considering what Biden has proposed through that time, Bernie's been busy trying to get those priorities passed. He's been a team player. Sinema has fought those priorities time and again.

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,017 posts)
16. And who was successful at getting those priorities passed?
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 12:04 PM
Dec 2022

It wasn't Bernie.

As far as Sinema:
Bipartisan Infrastructure
Inflation Reduction
Respect for Marriage

She got those through cloture.

I want to see filibuster reform, but I think she's correct that we shouldn't get rid of it. It's one reason TFG and Turtle weren't able to accomplish much legislatively during the first two years. If we nuke the filibuster, then there's nothing preventing a Republican trifecta of passing all those horrible things they're threatening.

House of Roberts

(5,169 posts)
17. She withheld support for the Inflation Reduction Act
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 12:43 PM
Dec 2022

until the elimination of the carried interest loophole was dropped from the bill.

She REDUCED the Infrastructure bill by withholding her support.

Maybe she did help with Respect for Marriage, but that doesn't cost rich fucks any taxes so she was OK with it.


Bernie's vote counts as much as hers, and per my first comment, is much more Progressive than Sinema.


dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
4. It's certainly getting her the attention she craves
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 10:09 AM
Dec 2022

It wss reported that she said her values have nit changed. Those values being "Me, me, me."

Walleye

(31,019 posts)
5. I am tired of people who want power for it's own sake.
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 10:09 AM
Dec 2022

The political power should always be a means to an end. And the motivation should always be to benefit the constituents. And by constituents I don’t mean the corporate headquarters in her district

GoodRaisin

(8,922 posts)
8. Don't really see how it makes her any more powerful than before, at least from a
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 10:20 AM
Dec 2022

legislative point of view. If she supported monied interests before, she’ll continue. If she supported LGBT rights before, she’ll continue, etc.

That’s as long as she continues to caucus with democrats.

Freethinker65

(10,021 posts)
9. Keeps her relevant to the GOP and lobbyists, but actually increases Murkowski's power.
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 10:24 AM
Dec 2022

And the power of other Republicans running away from MAGA partisan agenda. Pass good legislation.

Irish_Dem

(47,045 posts)
10. Yes this is what she hopes, more attention, people bowing down before her.
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 10:24 AM
Dec 2022

She will milk the cat and mouse game for all it is worth.

Also she most certainly got paid to pull this stunt.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
14. THe People Who Got Her Elected
Fri Dec 9, 2022, 11:03 AM
Dec 2022

Have been fed up with her for some time and she was already on her way to being a one term senator

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