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chocolatpi

(7,888 posts)
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 06:41 PM Dec 2022

Who is Paul Whelan, tinker, tailor, soldier, spy?

First off, I want to thank President Biden and all the members of the team that brought BG home. I've seen a lot of comments on news sites from tRump supporters about how unfair this is for the guy who supported DT in 2016, a former Marine.

From my reading, Paul Whelan was court marshaled while in the Marines for larceny. He allegedly had $80K in cash confiscated at the Russian airport on the day of his arrest. Who carries cash these days? He holds citizenship in Canada, Ireland, the UK and US. His employment history includes working for Kelly Services on contract to Borg Warner.

Is Paul a soldier of fortune, an arms dealer or an innocent pawn? I don't have all the facts and suspect there is much more to know before suggesting making a deal. I trust the Biden Team to handle the negotiations in the best interests of the USA.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-demanded-that-a-spy-held-in-germany-be-freed-in-exchange-for-paul-whelan/ar-AA156e28

Russia demanded that a spy held in Germany be freed in exchange for Paul Whelan
Story by Natasha Bertrand • Yesterday 11:49 AM


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Who is Paul Whelan, tinker, tailor, soldier, spy? (Original Post) chocolatpi Dec 2022 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Baked Potato Dec 2022 #1
I like the way you think. chocolatpi Dec 2022 #2
I agree with you, that Paul Whelan isn't exactly the all-american boy. 70sEraVet Dec 2022 #3
I too am suspicious. The admin is saying what they have to say, but even that hlthe2b Dec 2022 #4
He got a Big Chicken Dinner 48656c6c6f20 Dec 2022 #5
Too bad we didn't have Maria Butina to exchange for him. GoCubsGo Dec 2022 #6

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70sEraVet

(5,202 posts)
3. I agree with you, that Paul Whelan isn't exactly the all-american boy.
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 07:43 PM
Dec 2022

While he does have citizenship in four different countries, as do many people who have parents who have immigrated from other countries, Whelan had passports from all four countries!
You might like to read a Slate article on him.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/01/paul-whelan-russia-espionage.html

hlthe2b

(112,497 posts)
4. I too am suspicious. The admin is saying what they have to say, but even that
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 08:23 PM
Dec 2022

which is verified and published (dishonorable discharge following an attempt to steal $10K or more and related issues), in Russia to attend a wedding yet was not even remotely curious about being given a USB drive enough to look at it?

I don't know. People make mistakes and people can be clueless, but something just doesn't add up to me. Still, he's an American and like all detained in other countries, we should do our best to get them home.

 

48656c6c6f20

(7,638 posts)
5. He got a Big Chicken Dinner
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 10:50 PM
Dec 2022

Not a Dishonorable. Dishonorable would be for a major crime, murder, treason etc.
He's not a hero, decorated marine, blah blah blah. He's a convicted thief.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_discharge#Bad_Conduct_Discharge_(BCD)

GoCubsGo

(34,613 posts)
6. Too bad we didn't have Maria Butina to exchange for him.
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 11:20 PM
Dec 2022

Shit For Brains sent her back to Russia for nothing. That scumbag didn't serve more than a few days for her crimes.

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